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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby ManoftheHour » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:37 pm

jkee wrote:Hi all, new poster here. Just read through all of the pages, still having trouble with which RC was experimental.

I had had one with web dubois and the planet pluto that KILLED me. was pluto mirrors? or is this experimental? any heads up is much appreciated. I'm in the potential cancel group. Thanks.


The real one had online gaming economies.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby ManoftheHour » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:39 pm

marshmallow456 wrote:I just have to say I was dying inside after my first RC. Thankfully, it was right before the break. I was so so happy to open up section 4 and see another RC!

Yup. Went through an entire RC section and had NO clue what I was doing. I was so shell-shocked! Thank God for the break. Gave me time to recover and hope for another RC.


Lol, this was exactly like me. I had no idea wtf I was reading for any of the passages. That sucked because I aced my LG and LR before that 3rd awful awful RC.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby wbaseball4ever » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:40 pm

http://blueprintprep.com/free-lsat-help/article/advanced_lsat/lsat_score_and_curve_explained/1

By far the best explanation of the LSAT conversion. I repeat, your score is not influenced by the other Dec takers. The LSAC (with their many years of expertise) create a test that should get a normal distribution of scores and that each of those scores can reasonably be compared to the same score of a different administration.

In other words, a person that scores a 170 on a "hard" test should also score a 170 on an "easy" test.

They use the experimentals to make this determination. They see how the 170's did on certain questions and how the 160's did on certain questions, etc. and then construct a test and a "curve" to get the numbers they are looking for.

This works because so many tens of thousands of people take the test that it all comes out in the wash. If only 20,000 LSAT idiots took the December test, the "curve" would still be the same (i.e. probably -11), but most of the takers would just get terrible scores. The test was fair, but the takers were lame.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby mirrors » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:41 pm

Anyone remember this movie?

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BM ... 4,317_.jpg

Another reason to never want to look at mirrors again.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby yomisterd » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:44 pm

Guys, instead of focusing on curves and score release dates and speculation like that...

What's everyone drinking to celebrate/drown their sorrows? Polished a bottle of saki off with the SO and now a hard cider. DELICIOUS AND DRUNKIFYING.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby mellow » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:46 pm

I'd love to be partying, but I need to start getting my apps done now that I have no excuse.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby candlelight18 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:48 pm

yomisterd wrote:Guys, instead of focusing on curves and score release dates and speculation like that...

What's everyone drinking to celebrate/drown their sorrows? Polished a bottle of saki off with the SO and now a hard cider. DELICIOUS AND DRUNKIFYING.


YES. Personal pitcher of bell's two hearted over here...trying to watch basketball but still obsessively checking this thread. Help.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby ManoftheHour » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:50 pm

I still can't believe Mirrors was the real RC. I can't believe it because it seems too good to be true. I seriously think I got -13 on the experimental RC. I can't believe that LG was so easy. I went -9, cancelled, and -6 on my previous LSATs for LG.

Man, everything went right today.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby snagglepuss » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:51 pm

No one should be working on anything law school related tonight.

Drinking:
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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby dosto » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:52 pm

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby jd2121 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:53 pm

some of you have no clue what you're talking about. the LSAT includes an experimental section for the purpose of DIF-analysis.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby snagglepuss » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:53 pm

dosto wrote:
snagglepuss wrote:No one should be working on anything law school related tonight.

Drinking:
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I prefer my liquor neat, I must admit.

I am drinking it neat, just didn't feel like looking very hard for a better pic.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby ManoftheHour » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:53 pm

dosto wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:Man, everything went right today.


This is always good to hear, great job.


Thanks man. It took me 4 LSATs to get it right (hopefully). There will be no celebration until the scores officially arrive.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby mellow » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:56 pm

For everyone who says the exp RC was harder than actual RC, did you guys have punishment, surreal/abstract artist, something, something? Because I actually found it much easier than the actual RC. (Pretty sure -0 on exp while anywhere from -2 to -7 on real).

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby ManoftheHour » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:58 pm

melodygreenleaf wrote:For everyone who says the exp RC was harder than actual RC, did you guys have punishment, surreal/abstract artist, something, something? Because I actually found it much easier than the actual RC. (Pretty sure -0 on exp while anywhere from -2 to -7 on real).


According to this thread, Mirrors, Innate Ability, Art, and Taxation Gaming Econs was the real RC. I thought it was significantly easier than the other one. The difficulty between the two are night and day. I'm pretty sure I got -13 on the experimental and -2 to -4 on the real one.
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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby snagglepuss » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:59 pm

melodygreenleaf wrote:For everyone who says the exp RC was harder than actual RC, did you guys have punishment, surreal/abstract artist, something, something? Because I actually found it much easier than the actual RC. (Pretty sure -0 on exp while anywhere from -2 to -7 on real).

Nah. I think those people are referring to a different exp. RC with W.E.B. vs. Hughes, Pluto/comets, a comparison criminal acquittal/dismissal passage, and something else.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby ManoftheHour » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:05 pm

You mean there is more than one kind of experimental for a section? Like my experimental RC is different from someone else's experimental RC on this exam?

I had judicial candor too. Had no idea wtf was going on the whole time.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby jkee » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:05 pm

bee wrote:
jkee wrote:Hi all, new poster here. Just read through all of the pages, still having trouble with which RC was experimental.

I had had one with web dubois and the planet pluto that KILLED me. was pluto mirrors? or is this experimental? any heads up is much appreciated. I'm in the potential cancel group. Thanks.

weird, i had an rc exp that had neither dubois nor pluto

the real rc had mirrors, which was NOT pluto


I took it in the UK, does this make a difference? Other sections seem to overlap.

Can we put some other key words re mirrors? I'm using all that's left of my brain and, for the life of me, nothing is coming up
I also distinctly remember a passage abt women's rights in marriage in england; this passage was NOT in the pluto/dubois RC section.

might be shooting in the dark, but if anyone has any thoughts please do share!

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Re: December 2013 LSAT waiting thread

Postby Glaucon » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:06 pm

wbaseball4ever wrote:http://blueprintprep.com/free-lsat-help/article/advanced_lsat/lsat_score_and_curve_explained/1

By far the best explanation of the LSAT conversion. I repeat, your score is not influenced by the other Dec takers. The LSAC (with their many years of expertise) create a test that should get a normal distribution of scores and that each of those scores can reasonably be compared to the same score of a different administration.

In other words, a person that scores a 170 on a "hard" test should also score a 170 on an "easy" test.

They use the experimentals to make this determination. They see how the 170's did on certain questions and how the 160's did on certain questions, etc. and then construct a test and a "curve" to get the numbers they are looking for.

This works because so many tens of thousands of people take the test that it all comes out in the wash. If only 20,000 LSAT idiots took the December test, the "curve" would still be the same (i.e. probably -11), but most of the takers would just get terrible scores. The test was fair, but the takers were lame.



Okay, thank you. Is the test normed so a 170 scorer would get a score of 170 on any hard and easy test, or that the scorer would score a 170 on any test given a three year interval?
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