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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby retaking23 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:10 pm

dosto wrote:
Thorcogan wrote:I know none of us are experts, but what do you guys think are the chances of a bigger curve than October. I'm kinda freaking out about the cancelation deadline and might cancel


Any curve difference would not be more than +/- 2 points, and if that's what your decision to cancel hangs on, then you probably shouldn't. Unless, again, you feel you completely bombed.


I didn't vote in that curve poll but it shows a heavy leaning towards -12. How reliable are these curve polls?

ftbchamp231 wrote:Top 150, so they got 180s? Good for that fourth guy who took the test for them. If I was taking an LSAT illegally and transmitting answers to Hawaii via pager I think my nerves would have gotten in the way. How did they get caught? Did the proctor write them up for their pagers or was that not illegal until after this stunt?


I would hate to be the lawyers that actually defended these guys. Seems like a black list invite.

And even if these guys weren't caught then, would it still have been worth it? Suppose there is someone out there who has cheated into HYS, graduated, and is living the good life. I wonder if they could sleep comfortably at night knowing that everything could come crashing down at any moment.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby ftbchamp231 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:35 pm

retaking23 wrote:
dosto wrote:
Thorcogan wrote:I know none of us are experts, but what do you guys think are the chances of a bigger curve than October. I'm kinda freaking out about the cancelation deadline and might cancel


Any curve difference would not be more than +/- 2 points, and if that's what your decision to cancel hangs on, then you probably shouldn't. Unless, again, you feel you completely bombed.


I didn't vote in that curve poll but it shows a heavy leaning towards -12. How reliable are these curve polls?

ftbchamp231 wrote:Top 150, so they got 180s? Good for that fourth guy who took the test for them. If I was taking an LSAT illegally and transmitting answers to Hawaii via pager I think my nerves would have gotten in the way. How did they get caught? Did the proctor write them up for their pagers or was that not illegal until after this stunt?


I would hate to be the lawyers that actually defended these guys. Seems like a black list invite.

And even if these guys weren't caught then, would it still have been worth it? Suppose there is someone out there who has cheated into HYS, graduated, and is living the good life. I wonder if they could sleep comfortably at night knowing that everything could come crashing down at any moment.


Yeah I bet there was come internal conflict there. I like to think that they wouldn't have been able to hack it at HYS. That they would have gotten caught cheating on a test or just couldn't apply themselves to anything legitimate.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby angels2fly » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:15 pm

wow to the email from JS about extending deadlines, so early!

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby CookieDough » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:28 pm

angels2fly wrote:wow to the email from JS about extending deadlines, so early!


Yeah I was surprised. And they are accepting Feb scores... Weird.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby mellow » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:28 pm

angels2fly wrote:wow to the email from JS about extending deadlines, so early!

and applications down another 15%. good news all around :D

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby gargoyle » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:32 pm

CookieDough wrote:
angels2fly wrote:wow to the email from JS about extending deadlines, so early!


Yeah I was surprised. And they are accepting Feb scores... Weird.

This changes EVERYTHING.

Seriously though a Feb retake might be warranted?

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby CookieDough » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:40 pm

gargoyle wrote:
CookieDough wrote:
angels2fly wrote:wow to the email from JS about extending deadlines, so early!


Yeah I was surprised. And they are accepting Feb scores... Weird.

This changes EVERYTHING.

Seriously though a Feb retake might be warranted?


Not sure, but she explicitly mentioned taking first time Feb scores... so it seems like they'd accept a retake then?

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby 062914123 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:45 pm

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby mellow » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:50 pm

bee wrote:
melodygreenleaf wrote:
angels2fly wrote:wow to the email from JS about extending deadlines, so early!

and applications down another 15%. good news all around :D

didnt hear about apps being down another 15% :shock: link?

lots of talk in the law school admissions subforum but here's a direct quote that summarizes it nicely:
bcandybc wrote:first update of the new cycle from LSAC:

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... ear-volume

As of 12/06/13, there are 90,032 Fall 2014 applications submitted by 14,171 applicants.

Applicants are down 13.6% from 2013.
Applications are down 15.7% from 2013.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby gargoyle » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:52 pm

CookieDough wrote:
gargoyle wrote:
CookieDough wrote:
angels2fly wrote:wow to the email from JS about extending deadlines, so early!


Yeah I was surprised. And they are accepting Feb scores... Weird.

This changes EVERYTHING.

Seriously though a Feb retake might be warranted?


Not sure, but she explicitly mentioned taking first time Feb scores... so it seems like they'd accept a retake then?

Ah I glanced over the "first time" part. Feb retake probably wouldn't look great.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby 062914123 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:52 pm

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby ftbchamp231 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:03 pm

Shit my pants when I saw Harvard Law in my email. Thought I was special for a second.

Wow to those application numbers.... I hope those are across all schools and not just TTT.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby bound » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:04 pm

Haha how much would everyone be freaking out if daRascal was right and our boxes turned grey on Friday? :shock:

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby wealtheow » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:12 pm

Austinbound wrote:Haha how much would everyone be freaking out if daRascal was right and our boxes turned grey on Friday? :shock:



eep. not sure i'm ready.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby 062914123 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:12 pm

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby gargoyle » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:13 pm

Austinbound wrote:Haha how much would everyone be freaking out if daRascal was right and our boxes turned grey on Friday? :shock:

TLS servers would implode

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby CookieDough » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:14 pm

bee wrote:
wealtheow wrote:
Austinbound wrote:Haha how much would everyone be freaking out if daRascal was right and our boxes turned grey on Friday? :shock:



eep. not sure i'm ready.

id be SO happy. im impatient.


I'm definitely ready. Then I could move on to freaking out waiting for responses :)

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby esrom55 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:20 pm

Austinbound wrote:Haha how much would everyone be freaking out if daRascal was right and our boxes turned grey on Friday? :shock:



I'd be all about that.

Also, anyone know if there's any correlation between the number of test takers and processing time? For example, is the wait time completely independent of the number of tests to grade?

It seems like the number of testers should at least marginally affect the wait time, and anecdotal evidence sure points to there being many fewer test takers this administration than at least October, and possibly last December.
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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby Hotguy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:20 pm

0 motivation to do my PS. I guess I will start it tomorrow.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby esrom55 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:22 pm

Hotguy wrote:0 motivation to do my PS. I guess I will start it tomorrow.


Maybe you could write your PS on the adversity of overcoming procrastination.....

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby dosto » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:24 pm

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby wealtheow » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:40 pm

esrom55 wrote:
Hotguy wrote:0 motivation to do my PS. I guess I will start it tomorrow.


Maybe you could write your PS on the adversity of overcoming procrastination.....


eh that would drag in a 2 pager. sounds like a good 250 topic though :wink:

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby Hotguy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:43 pm

wealtheow wrote:
esrom55 wrote:
Hotguy wrote:0 motivation to do my PS. I guess I will start it tomorrow.


Maybe you could write your PS on the adversity of overcoming procrastination.....


eh that would drag in a 2 pager. sounds like a good 250 topic though :wink:

Yale 250 topic set.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby FLGirl » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:46 pm

I am also a lurker and a very nervous LSAT test taker. I made a huge technical error in the LR section with the throwback question. Outside of that I did very well. I am trying to decide if I should cancel and I cannot get a hold of my instructor. Thoughts?

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Waiting Thread

Postby esrom55 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:47 pm

dosto wrote:
esrom55 wrote:
Austinbound wrote:Haha how much would everyone be freaking out if daRascal was right and our boxes turned grey on Friday? :shock:



I'd be all about that.

Also, anyone know if there's any correlation between the number of test takers and processing time? For example, is the wait time completely independent of the number of tests to grade?

It seems like the number of testers should at least marginally affect the wait time, and anecdotal evidence sure points to there being many fewer test takers this administration than at least October, and possibly last December.


I wouldn't look too much into any such possible correlations, especially not during this admin in which LSAC will start a week-long vacation a mere 10 days after delayed exams are taken.


Agreed, the number of factors affecting score release is likely very high. I suppose this question gets back to the question of what happens between running scantron sheets through the reader and score release. Obviously there will be A) issues with individual test sheets (e.g. test sheet folded/wrinkled, someone used #3 pencil, etc.), and B) general practices that do not depend on individual tests (e.g. QA/QC of the overall testing population, etc.). My question is getting at how much of the wait is due to A vs. B. And if it's 50% of each, and A drops by 50% would that result in a score release date of 1 week earlier.

Obviously, 1) there's probably no way to know what the man behind the curtain is doing, 2) the 1 week break throws a big wrench in trying to understand any of this, and 3) scores will be released when they are released. But since we have a while to think about what's going on in LSAT-land, and I'm currently procrastinating on the revisions for my manuscript that I have to get back to the editor next week, I figured I'd engage in some baseless speculation.




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