I would wager you that the curve won't be less than -12 and will completely love my odds.NYC2012 wrote:Glaucon wrote:Hotguy wrote:December curves are almost never smaller than the preceding October ones, so it's safe to say that this is going to be -12 at the very least.
Lol you can't be serious. Might as well hope for a -14 since we are using bs logic.
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Same here, it took me a while for me to re-gain my composure after the LG (thank god 3rd was exp!)... but i did end up rushing through the last LG and left 4 Q unanswered I am pretty confiddent that I got the rest correctly (except for the rule substitution Q that I don't bother with too much b/c I know I usually get wrong)ivyleaguer6 wrote:good news! thanks beebee wrote:there was NO two q lrivyleaguer6 wrote:i know this is overkill, but can someone who had TWO LOGICAL REASONING SECTIONS please confirm for me:
did any of your LR sections contain "two-part" questions (where there is one stimulus for two questions?)
i agree the games were harder than october, but i think LR and RC was easier. happy this was 101 questions, im predicting at least a -12 curve!
my LR experimental wasn't even that bad, but it happened right after my LG section which left me really agitated, so i was all over the place. the summarizing game wasn't actually that bad but the rules were stated in such a strange way that i completely misread them, and by the time i figured it out, it was too late. definitely got at least -3 on that. stupid.
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I'm gonna jump on the LG was easy bandwagon. I felt bamboozled (yes, bamboozled) by one of the logic games. But I have been racked with self-doubt ever since getting my results from the October LSAT. Those flash backs: http://www.gifbin.com/983020
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Got too confident on LG and actually ran out of time on the last question because I thought I had more time. First time in about 20(?) PTs this happened.
The answer I picked seemed right, but then again, I had maybe 30 seconds to answer it.
The answer I picked seemed right, but then again, I had maybe 30 seconds to answer it.
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i totally feel your pain. it sucks when you know you messed up a game, because it's a negative certainty on your score - whereas tough passages and tough LR sections have a more uncertain impact on your score. i guess we'll just have to wait for january...good luck!!dreamofNYC wrote:Same here, it took me a while for me to re-gain my composure after the LG (thank god 3rd was exp!)... but i did end up rushing through the last LG and left 4 Q unanswered I am pretty confiddent that I got the rest correctly (except for the rule substitution Q that I don't bother with too much b/c I know I usually get wrong)ivyleaguer6 wrote:good news! thanks beebee wrote:there was NO two q lrivyleaguer6 wrote:i know this is overkill, but can someone who had TWO LOGICAL REASONING SECTIONS please confirm for me:
did any of your LR sections contain "two-part" questions (where there is one stimulus for two questions?)
i agree the games were harder than october, but i think LR and RC was easier. happy this was 101 questions, im predicting at least a -12 curve!
my LR experimental wasn't even that bad, but it happened right after my LG section which left me really agitated, so i was all over the place. the summarizing game wasn't actually that bad but the rules were stated in such a strange way that i completely misread them, and by the time i figured it out, it was too late. definitely got at least -3 on that. stupid.
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I'm so fcked. Left 4 Qs unanswered on LR2... Hello TTT
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Y'all need to quit with the curve speculation shit, it gives me hope when I'd rather just drink
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December curves have NEVER been smaller than the preceding October curves. There are good reasons for this. 1) All the high scorers in June and October have already applied with their 170+ and vacated the writing pool, lowering the average quality. 2) LSAC must be aware of this tendency and counters accordingly, because if they didn't, everyone would wait to write the December test. There's evidence to support this line of reasoning, since Oct and Dec curves are usually increasing vis-a-vis the June's curve of that year.
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can anyone confirm 1 or 2 rule substitution questions on the real lg, hearing some conflicting reports
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I can confirm 2.jttoplawschools93 wrote:can anyone confirm 1 or 2 rule substitution questions on the real lg, hearing some conflicting reports
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Confirmed.jttoplawschools93 wrote:can anyone confirm 1 or 2 rule substitution questions on the real lg, hearing some conflicting reports
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ftfy buddydosto wrote:Now comes the drinking.
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Just tossed my LSAT shit. Pretty glorious. (Knowshon_Moreno_River_Of_Tears.gif)dosto wrote:Now comes the question of LSAT material disposal.
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dosto wrote:Check PT 42.Glaucon wrote:December curves have NEVER been smaller than the preceding October curves.
could you link the relevant curves?
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Glaucon,Glaucon wrote:December curves have NEVER been smaller than the preceding October curves. There are good reasons for this. 1) All the high scorers in June and October have already applied with their 170+ and vacated the writing pool, lowering the average quality. 2) LSAC must be aware of this tendency and counters accordingly, because if they didn't, everyone would wait to write the December test. There's evidence to support this line of reasoning, since Oct and Dec curves are usually increasing vis-a-vis the June's curve of that year.
You need to stop. At first, it was only your reasoning that was terrible. Now, you are demonstrating a lack of knowledge.
Properly speaking, the LSAT is not "curved." The scale is set by people who took the test previously and had the questions on their experimental sections. The evidence you are providing would seem to indicate that it is better to take the December test, which it is not. Every test is theoretically the same. You could have all of the worst testers lining up to take the same test and it would have no effect whatsoever on the scoring scale.
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I agree with you there.snagglepuss wrote:I suppose it is tradition.muzzy wrote:We spent all our logic today on 101 questions. Let us bask in the sun of irrationality for but a moment!snagglepuss wrote:Man, I feel like I just pointed out that section difficulty is a silly standard for guessing at curve, but we just can't help ourselves.
Was LR less verbose than it has been as of late? Or am I imagining things?
I think that is how I was able to finish both LR sections with more than 5 minutes left.
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I stand corrected.Glaucon wrote:dosto wrote:Check PT 42.Glaucon wrote:December curves have NEVER been smaller than the preceding October curves.
could you link the relevant curves?
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But this test was noticeably harder than october. I was shocked when I found out October was -12 and I'd be shocked if this one is any less than that.LMD wrote:Glaucon,Glaucon wrote:December curves have NEVER been smaller than the preceding October curves. There are good reasons for this. 1) All the high scorers in June and October have already applied with their 170+ and vacated the writing pool, lowering the average quality. 2) LSAC must be aware of this tendency and counters accordingly, because if they didn't, everyone would wait to write the December test. There's evidence to support this line of reasoning, since Oct and Dec curves are usually increasing vis-a-vis the June's curve of that year.
You need to stop. At first, it was only your reasoning that was terrible. Now, you are demonstrating a lack of knowledge.
Properly speaking, the LSAT is not "curved." The scale is set by people who took the test previously and had the questions on their experimental sections. The evidence you are providing would seem to indicate that it is better to take the December test, which it is not. Every test is theoretically the same. You could have all of the worst testers lining up to take the same test and it would have no effect whatsoever on the scoring scale.
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Well then, I'm going to drink until I forget about every chair and mirror in my house.
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So any bets on when we get our scores back? I hope LSAC is well rested and not too hungover Jan. 2nd and they will finish shuffling our tests around by the 4th.
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LMD wrote:Glaucon,Glaucon wrote:December curves have NEVER been smaller than the preceding October curves. There are good reasons for this. 1) All the high scorers in June and October have already applied with their 170+ and vacated the writing pool, lowering the average quality. 2) LSAC must be aware of this tendency and counters accordingly, because if they didn't, everyone would wait to write the December test. There's evidence to support this line of reasoning, since Oct and Dec curves are usually increasing vis-a-vis the June's curve of that year.
You need to stop. At first, it was only your reasoning that was terrible. Now, you are demonstrating a lack of knowledge.
Properly speaking, the LSAT is not "curved." The scale is set by people who took the test previously and had the questions on their experimental sections. The evidence you are providing would seem to indicate that it is better to take the December test, which it is not. Every test is theoretically the same. You could have all of the worst testers lining up to take the same test and it would have no effect whatsoever on the scoring scale.
No one has actually answered my question on the curving: since the conversion chart does change, doesn't it mean that if all the worst test takers lined up for the december test and none scored a raw score of 90 (everyone was below 98th percentile) that the curve would be generous so that the top 2% of test takers for that terrible sitting would score in the 98th percentile? Since the the experimental sections do not reflect the real difficulty of the next test (let's be real, most of us find our experimental sections to be much easier than their real counterparts), it's impossible to 'pre-determine' a curve definitively. If all the worst test takers take the december sitting, it should be theoretically possible to benefit from the lack of competition. I have many family relatives and friends who are professional economists and actuarists, and quite frankly, there's no statistical method to correct bias (the bias of a pool of inferior candidates) Could someone please help me clear this up?
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