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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby objection_your_honor » Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:20 pm

A 168 on your first timed PT is very good, especially if you've only been studying for a few weeks. Prioritize getting LG to -0 every time. Print out all of the games from PTs 20-40 and do them over and over. Bringing the LR score up will be difficult this close to the test — try to drill question types you know you struggle with.

If you're really set on UChicago, don't be afraid to sit out this cycle and prep hard for June 2014 if you're not where you want to be by December.

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby aboutmydaylight » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:33 pm

Was your 168 timed/test conditions? If yes, that is exceptional for a first test score after a week of studying, and you really shouldn't have any difficulty getting a high score. You may not be able to get there by December though.

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby theramblingfool » Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:47 am

objection: thanks! I've printed out a couple dozen LG sections, and I'm gonna drill those into oblivion. For LR I think I will go back to my LR Bible and drill those questions again (I don't have any other resources for LR, except the practice tests themselves).

aboutmydaylight: yes, it was timed. It was under test conditions in so far as it was timed (the same 35 minutes per section allotted during the real test) and I did not take breaks in between. So somewhat. I really hope I can get there by December. If not, I suppose I am willing to wait until the next cycle if it means getting into UChicago. I will continue to aim for December now, though. Do you have any advice?

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby bobtheblob916 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:37 am

Dude, whaaat? That's an excellent score for an early PT. Those last several points will come harder, but they are definitely doable. What you need to focus on is mastery. Lots of timed PTs (with 5 sections, not 4), and reviewing, along with drilling/researching and trying new strategies for the question types that give you the most trouble.

For LR, I'd recommend the Manhattan LR book, it's much better than the LR Bible (I've read both, and Manhattan brought me from -4 to -1).

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby lgleye » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:20 am

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby wtrc » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:17 pm

The 168 is kind of ridiculously great for a first PT. Congrats. And it totally can be improved upon in a month.

How much is hard to say though. For someone consistently PTing at a 168, with demonstrated weaknesses and all that, I think a month would only bring a few points, for the most part. But since you have only taken once, I wonder if there will be some nice bump after taking a few PTs an getting a feel for it.

Also remember, for a lot of test takers, the real thing, at least the first time taken, will be a bit lower because of stress and nerves.

If you're starting at a 168, you obviously have it in you to score 173++++. With your GPA, if you can't get there in December, I would definitely really seriously consider waiting a cycle.

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby theramblingfool » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:27 am

So I took another PT today.

The good news is that I got a 171, which (1) helps reassure that my initial 168 wasn't an overestimation and (2) gives me hope as the beginning of an upward trend (though I know, 2 points a data trend does not make).

The weird news is that my performance on the individual sections was way different than my previous PT. Before I got -2 RC, -3 LG, -8 LR (combined). This time I got -5 RC, -2 LG, -2 LR (combined).

One confound that I just can't help right now, given my schedule, is that all of my studying is starting between 5 and 8pm. I wish I could be doing my studying in the morning, but that's unfortunately not possible at the moment.

A side note: I picked up the Princeston Review drill books for LG and all LSAT categories today. I will be returning them to B&N tomorrow. After a great deal of panic caused by missing a TON of drill questions (like 30% of them) I took to the interwebs and discovered this is characteristic of Princeston Review. Total garbage. Not representational of the real LSAT, poorly constructed questions/answer choices, etc. I would NOT recommend.

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Re: Improving 168 Score for Dec. (Need Advice from High Scorers)

Postby objection_your_honor » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:25 pm

Most people use Cambridge LSAT drill sets for PTs 20-40 arranged by question type.




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