October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby cahwc12 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:06 pm

From your link:

One speaker predicted that by 2016 or 2017, the number of new jobs in law will exceed the number of new law grads if current trends in applicants and employment continue.


Then maybe some of the 50% of people with JDs who don't become lawyers might still have a shot!

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby Chriz » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:16 pm

cahwc12 wrote:From your link:

One speaker predicted that by 2016 or 2017, the number of new jobs in law will exceed the number of new law grads if current trends in applicants and employment continue.


Then maybe some of the 50% of people with JDs who don't become lawyers might still have a shot!


It won't continue like this forever. The decreasing medians will have to bottom out and get a lot of applicants because of the improved opportunities.

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby RhymesLikeDimes » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:58 pm

Looks like a much smaller drop off this year than we saw in 2012. We have got to be approaching the bottom.

Feeling much better about my 3.58/173 for this cycle, though.

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby cahwc12 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:25 am

Chriz wrote:
cahwc12 wrote:From your link:

One speaker predicted that by 2016 or 2017, the number of new jobs in law will exceed the number of new law grads if current trends in applicants and employment continue.


Then maybe some of the 50% of people with JDs who don't become lawyers might still have a shot!


It won't continue like this forever. The decreasing medians will have to bottom out and get a lot of applicants because of the improved opportunities.


This continued drop is also because the demand for lawyers is decreasing. It's not like there are N jobs, and those jobs must scale with population or even remain stagnant. When people start realizing that law school is largely a raw deal for most students, it's a fool's errand to suggest that suddenly demand for lawyers is going to somehow outstrip supply. Both the supply of and demand for lawyers are dropping, and they may never catch each other.

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby pauly_biegler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:15 am

Not that I'm going to slack, but could I feel better about a 3.91-160 for schools like ND, BC, Emory, GW...and if I can improve to a 165-167 in december am I looking at lower t-14? Just curious what some might say.

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby thisiswater » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:43 am

pauly_biegler wrote:Not that I'm going to slack, but could I feel better about a 3.91-160 for schools like ND, BC, Emory, GW...and if I can improve to a 165-167 in december am I looking at lower t-14? Just curious what some might say.


Wouldn't a 3.9, mid 160s give you a shot at Berkeley among others?

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby aboutmydaylight » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:23 pm

Chriz wrote:
cahwc12 wrote:From your link:

One speaker predicted that by 2016 or 2017, the number of new jobs in law will exceed the number of new law grads if current trends in applicants and employment continue.


Then maybe some of the 50% of people with JDs who don't become lawyers might still have a shot!


It won't continue like this forever. The decreasing medians will have to bottom out and get a lot of applicants because of the improved opportunities.


Yea but the market isn't perfect; ideally (for entering law students) there's a lag. Applications will increase after people start to see consistent years of low medians, and the legal market improves. That usually leaves a gap of a decent amount of years where the market hasn't corrected itself yet and new graduates are in a very good position.

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Re: October 2013 LSAT test-takers down ~11% from previous Oct

Postby iamgeorgebush » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:36 pm

aboutmydaylight wrote:
Chriz wrote:
cahwc12 wrote:From your link:

One speaker predicted that by 2016 or 2017, the number of new jobs in law will exceed the number of new law grads if current trends in applicants and employment continue.


Then maybe some of the 50% of people with JDs who don't become lawyers might still have a shot!


It won't continue like this forever. The decreasing medians will have to bottom out and get a lot of applicants because of the improved opportunities.


Yea but the market isn't perfect; ideally (for entering law students) there's a lag. Applications will increase after people start to see consistent years of low medians, and the legal market improves. That usually leaves a gap of a decent amount of years where the market hasn't corrected itself yet and new graduates are in a very good position.

Assuming the legal market improves. Many have predicted that it won't.




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