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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:15 pm

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Otunga » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:24 pm

I'd take 171.

172/173 and I'm golden.

Always aiming for 180 though.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby rftdd888 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:34 pm

did any of you feel a difference in RC between the 40s-50s and the 60s? I was PT'ing in the low 170s in the 40s and 50s but had a bad RC section in Oct. in fact, I had plenty of bad RC sections in the 60s.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby mellow » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:36 pm

Ideal would be 175+, I'd be ok with 174. 173 or 172 would mean a waste of $160 and a decrease in chances for applying later in the cycle. This is what happens when you prioritize work experience over GPA in college. /sigh

CookieDough wrote:Is it ridiculous to think I could get 6 more points in this short amount of time? I scored at least that under my PT average, so I'm hoping it's not crazy...

Nope. You underperformed, you know what your weakness is, especially under test day conditions. And even if you didn't underperform, I went from a 164 diagnostic to a 175 PT average after four weeks of cramming (a PT or two a day), so it's definitely possible.

But then again, if you're working full time with two children, my answer would be completely different. I'm assuming you have a decent amount of time to study?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Otunga » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:37 pm

rftdd888 wrote:did any of you feel a difference in RC between the 40s-50s and the 60s? I was PT'ing in the low 170s in the 40s and 50s but had a bad RC section in Oct. in fact, I had plenty of bad RC sections in the 60s.


Absolutely. I essentially devoted much of prep to grasping 50s and 60s RC (especially 60s). That said, I thought 70 RC was tougher than any 60s section aside from 65, perhaps the toughest RC ever.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby mellow » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:41 pm

rftdd888 wrote:did any of you feel a difference in RC between the 40s-50s and the 60s? I was PT'ing in the low 170s in the 40s and 50s but had a bad RC section in Oct. in fact, I had plenty of bad RC sections in the 60s.

Yes to a difference. But not sure if I'd say the difference would be in difficulty exactly. I felt the questions changed slightly in their focus (more inferences, less find the answer word for word in the passage), but once I started looking at them as LR questions, the RC felt manageable again.

And comparative passages are annoying as hell.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby 062914123 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:42 pm

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby NotASpecialSnowflake » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:02 pm

I might be the low outlier but I'm just shooting for a 168 or above, which is 5 points above my PT70. I'd honestly take a 167 because I can make T-14 then.

I just tried some mid 90s Killer LGs. Didn't go so well. :| I'm gonna review the power score system and get back on it, but its tough going from the new LGs (which I find easier and can just plug and chug) to the older ones (make all the inferences or you are screwed)

I'm hoping to get back on track with LGs before my trainer arrives.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby action90 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:09 pm

Bajam wrote:
bee wrote:QUICK POLL: what score are you guys (realistically) hoping for in dec, now that you know what to expect from the lsat?

me: if i scored 3 or more points for 173+, i'd be deliriously happy


Score 4 or more for 170+


2 or more for a 172+

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:18 pm

Shooting for that 170 threshold! :D

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby AAJD2B » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:27 pm

FlyingNorth wrote:Shooting for that 170 threshold! :D


Ditto!

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby tofuspeedstar » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:28 pm

180 ceiling, 175 floor. I will except nothing less and will even wait til June if need be.

“And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high.”

-Aryton Senna.

If I can crank a 180 on this 3rd take who knows wtf else I can do.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:33 pm

bee wrote:QUICK POLL: what score are you guys (realistically) hoping for in dec, now that you know what to expect from the lsat?

me: if i scored 3 or more points for 173+, i'd be deliriously happy



:oops: I just want a 170...

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:33 pm

tofuspeedstar wrote:180 ceiling, 175 floor. I will except nothing less and will even wait til June if need be.

“And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high.”

-Aryton Senna.

If I can crank a 180 on this 3rd take who knows wtf else I can do.


^Inspirational

Where do you guys typically get your PT's from? Cambridge?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:34 pm

CookieDough wrote:
bee wrote:QUICK POLL: what score are you guys (realistically) hoping for in dec, now that you know what to expect from the lsat?

me: if i scored 3 or more points for 173+, i'd be deliriously happy



:oops: I just want a 170...


Big ole' +1

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:35 pm

dosto5 wrote:
bee wrote:the only thing keeping me going right now is imagining how many doors 5 10 extra points is gonna open for me.


ftfy

CookieDough wrote:Is it ridiculous to think I could get 6 more points in this short amount of time? I scored at least that under my PT average, so I'm hoping it's not crazy...


No, especially since you underperformed on test day. Now you have the experience of having taken the real thing and know what to expect from the experience. You have a month with a solid foundation to hone in and really polish your skills. You can also develop some good habits and and become more confident about your approach (I'm trying to do this for RC before test day).


Thank you so much for this!

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby tofuspeedstar » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:36 pm

FlyingNorth wrote:
tofuspeedstar wrote:180 ceiling, 175 floor. I will except nothing less and will even wait til June if need be.

“And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high.”

-Aryton Senna.

If I can crank a 180 on this 3rd take who knows wtf else I can do.


^Inspirational

Where do you guys typically get your PT's from? Cambridge?


lsatblog. Only place i know that has them in pdf form :(

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:38 pm

melodygreenleaf wrote:Ideal would be 175+, I'd be ok with 174. 173 or 172 would mean a waste of $160 and a decrease in chances for applying later in the cycle. This is what happens when you prioritize work experience over GPA in college. /sigh

CookieDough wrote:Is it ridiculous to think I could get 6 more points in this short amount of time? I scored at least that under my PT average, so I'm hoping it's not crazy...

Nope. You underperformed, you know what your weakness is, especially under test day conditions. And even if you didn't underperform, I went from a 164 diagnostic to a 175 PT average after four weeks of cramming (a PT or two a day), so it's definitely possible.

But then again, if you're working full time with two children, my answer would be completely different. I'm assuming you have a decent amount of time to study?


Working part time, no kids. I have time to study, I'm just trying to figure out a good balance. I studied a lot for October but clearly not as effectively as I needed to. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the right amount of time to put in/week?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby tofuspeedstar » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:45 pm

CookieDough wrote:
melodygreenleaf wrote:Ideal would be 175+, I'd be ok with 174. 173 or 172 would mean a waste of $160 and a decrease in chances for applying later in the cycle. This is what happens when you prioritize work experience over GPA in college. /sigh

CookieDough wrote:Is it ridiculous to think I could get 6 more points in this short amount of time? I scored at least that under my PT average, so I'm hoping it's not crazy...

Nope. You underperformed, you know what your weakness is, especially under test day conditions. And even if you didn't underperform, I went from a 164 diagnostic to a 175 PT average after four weeks of cramming (a PT or two a day), so it's definitely possible.

But then again, if you're working full time with two children, my answer would be completely different. I'm assuming you have a decent amount of time to study?


Working part time, no kids. I have time to study, I'm just trying to figure out a good balance. I studied a lot for October but clearly not as effectively as I needed to. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the right amount of time to put in/week?



According to the 4 week schedule on the lsat trainer site it says 28-30 hours a week :|

But since you have solid foundation I would say 12-15 a week would suffice? And maybe a PT every 3 days? idk.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby lsatyolo » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:48 pm

Just realized I really don't have many fresh tests from the 50's and 60's to work with... Probably going to start off with the first test I took from my Powerscore full-length course. Too bad it's not letting me log in :evil:

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Otunga » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:50 pm

tofuspeedstar wrote:
CookieDough wrote:
melodygreenleaf wrote:Ideal would be 175+, I'd be ok with 174. 173 or 172 would mean a waste of $160 and a decrease in chances for applying later in the cycle. This is what happens when you prioritize work experience over GPA in college. /sigh

CookieDough wrote:Is it ridiculous to think I could get 6 more points in this short amount of time? I scored at least that under my PT average, so I'm hoping it's not crazy...

Nope. You underperformed, you know what your weakness is, especially under test day conditions. And even if you didn't underperform, I went from a 164 diagnostic to a 175 PT average after four weeks of cramming (a PT or two a day), so it's definitely possible.

But then again, if you're working full time with two children, my answer would be completely different. I'm assuming you have a decent amount of time to study?


Working part time, no kids. I have time to study, I'm just trying to figure out a good balance. I studied a lot for October but clearly not as effectively as I needed to. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the right amount of time to put in/week?



According to the 4 week schedule on the lsat trainer site it says 28-30 hours a week :|

But since you have solid foundation I would say 12-15 a week would suffice? And maybe a PT every 3 days? idk.


Is that number including full PTs? I think 2 PTs a week sounds about right. Maybe 3 each in the last two weeks of November, then just 1 or 2 the week leading into test day.

I might join the PT57 brigade. When are you guys reviewing? My disclaimer is that I've seen the LG section 3 times, and I've never hit -0 on it. I've seen the other sections once. It's really about shaking the rust away at this stage.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Brettanomyces » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:54 pm

I haven't seen my October score yet. :oops:

I've improved since then and I don't want to get discouraged.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby tofuspeedstar » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:56 pm

Otunga wrote:
Is that number including full PTs? I think 2 PTs a week sounds about right. Maybe 3 each in the last two weeks of November, then just 1 or 2 the week leading into test day.

I might join the PT57 brigade. When are you guys reviewing? My disclaimer is that I've seen the LG section 3 times, and I've never hit -0 on it. I've seen the other sections once. It's really about shaking the rust away at this stage.


Here's the schedule:

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You kind of just organize the work yourself throughout the week to best fit around everything else. It includes taking PT 52-61, I'm sure you might be able to sub in like 64-70 there at the end?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:59 pm

tofuspeedstar wrote:
CookieDough wrote:
melodygreenleaf wrote:Ideal would be 175+, I'd be ok with 174. 173 or 172 would mean a waste of $160 and a decrease in chances for applying later in the cycle. This is what happens when you prioritize work experience over GPA in college. /sigh

CookieDough wrote:Is it ridiculous to think I could get 6 more points in this short amount of time? I scored at least that under my PT average, so I'm hoping it's not crazy...

Nope. You underperformed, you know what your weakness is, especially under test day conditions. And even if you didn't underperform, I went from a 164 diagnostic to a 175 PT average after four weeks of cramming (a PT or two a day), so it's definitely possible.

But then again, if you're working full time with two children, my answer would be completely different. I'm assuming you have a decent amount of time to study?


Working part time, no kids. I have time to study, I'm just trying to figure out a good balance. I studied a lot for October but clearly not as effectively as I needed to. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the right amount of time to put in/week?



According to the 4 week schedule on the lsat trainer site it says 28-30 hours a week :|

But since you have solid foundation I would say 12-15 a week would suffice? And maybe a PT every 3 days? idk.


I'm so worried about burning out though... Also I only have about 5 recent PTs that are totally fresh (thank goodness they are all in the 60s!) so should I save those until later, or do a fresh one a week, plus redo a few?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby snagglepuss » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:59 pm

Brettanomyces wrote:I haven't seen my October score yet. :oops:

I've improved since then and I don't want to get discouraged.

You're being ludicrous. Open the score and realize that the 3 numbers inside mean very little in the scheme of your retake. More importantly you'll see which sections you struggled with on test day, and you'll be able to target your studies better.




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