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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby snagglepuss » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:03 pm

SkepticalAboutLaw wrote:Okay......is it reasonable to get through Manhattan LR and the Trainer for December? Should I bother with the other Manhattan books if I buy the Trainer? Other thoughts/advice?

I have a 4.0 UGPA and I am (...or was....) shooting for H. In a stroke of fabulous luck, I misdiagrammed the Movies game and missed every question. Combined with a few questions I threw from nerves, I set myself a record low score.

My prep materials are somewhere between craptastic and nonexistent. I half assed myself to a 174 PT average through self study, LR & LG Bibles from 2007, and an LSAT Blog study schedule I didn't follow. Unsurprisingly, I never mastered the question types that gave me trouble. If I could figure those out, I think I could bump myself from -2/-3 LR section average to -0/-1. Is a Manhattan/Trainer combo likely to do that?

I just started reading the LSAT Trainer an hour ago and I think it will be the credited option for this short prep period. The Trainer's introduction to LR (Chapter 2) was very nicely done and offers a refreshing approach that probably trumps Manhattan's LR. I'd suggest using LSATQA to figure out your specific LR weaknesses and then drill your problem areas with the appropriate Cambridge Logical Reasoning packets. And if you already have Manhattan LR, just read the chapters for the question types you're struggling with as a supplement to the Trainer. BTW you can read the first 5 chapters of the Trainer on the site.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby SkepticalAboutLaw » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:15 pm

What is the recommended method of drilling? Cambridge packets?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby yomisterd » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:16 pm

dosto5 wrote: I am actually doing this exact same thing. Trainer and drilling to polish, 12-15 PTs spread out. Just really a matter of consistency at this point once you know you can consistently PT above 173.


This is... This is my new study plan. You da best dosto.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby snagglepuss » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:18 pm

bee wrote:
dosto5 wrote:I am actually doing this exact same thing. Trainer and drilling to polish, 12-15 PTs spread out. Just really a matter of consistency at this point once you know you can consistently PT above 173.

i dont know how it took me this long to notice dosto, but is your avatar... is that le knight club?!

WOW. I kept thinking it looked familiar. Now I look in my iTunes and see it is the Waves album cover. haha

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby snagglepuss » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:20 pm

dosto5 wrote:
snagglepuss wrote:
SkepticalAboutLaw wrote:Okay......is it reasonable to get through Manhattan LR and the Trainer for December? Should I bother with the other Manhattan books if I buy the Trainer? Other thoughts/advice?

I have a 4.0 UGPA and I am (...or was....) shooting for H. In a stroke of fabulous luck, I misdiagrammed the Movies game and missed every question. Combined with a few questions I threw from nerves, I set myself a record low score.

My prep materials are somewhere between craptastic and nonexistent. I half assed myself to a 174 PT average through self study, LR & LG Bibles from 2007, and an LSAT Blog study schedule I didn't follow. Unsurprisingly, I never mastered the question types that gave me trouble. If I could figure those out, I think I could bump myself from -2/-3 LR section average to -0/-1. Is a Manhattan/Trainer combo likely to do that?

I just started reading the LSAT Trainer an hour ago and I think it will be the credited option for this short prep period. The Trainer's introduction to LR (Chapter 2) was very nicely done and offers a refreshing approach that probably trumps Manhattan's LR. I'd suggest using LSATQA to figure out your specific LR weaknesses and then drill your problem areas with the appropriate Cambridge Logical Reasoning packets. And if you already have Manhattan LR, just read the chapters for the question types you're struggling with as a supplement to the Trainer. BTW you can read the first 5 chapters of the Trainer on the site.


I am actually doing this exact same thing. Trainer and drilling to polish, 12-15 PTs spread out. Just really a matter of consistency at this point once you know you can consistently PT above 173.

Our plans are identical. Let's do this!

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Nonconsecutive » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:20 pm

bee wrote:
SkepticalAboutLaw wrote:What is the recommended method of drilling? Cambridge packets?

yessir. buy the pdfs so you can print them out as many times as you want.


pdfs are definitely TCR

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby SkepticalAboutLaw » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:22 pm

bee wrote:
SkepticalAboutLaw wrote:What is the recommended method of drilling? Cambridge packets?

yessir. buy the pdfs so you can print them out as many times as you want.


Okay, so Trainer and Cambridge it is! Thanks!

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby aprilyup » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:31 pm

Took the October LSAT for the first time.

Stats:165 with 10 wrongs in RC...Any advice on how to improve on RC in 5 weeks?

Probably will also be using LSAT Trainer thanks to all the recommendation.

Also need a study partner (could be online) to motivate each other! Anyone please?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby jk148706 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:37 pm

bee wrote:
PourMeTea wrote:
bee wrote:
PourMeTea wrote:PT 57 this week, if anyone wants to review on Friday or Saturday let me know!

57 is one of the few mostly fresh tests i have left, i was gonna do it sunday... maybe i should push back so i can review with you guys D:


Review Sunday then!

:D im in



I might take 57 too then ha

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby jk148706 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:42 pm

So I was just looking at LSATQA and my last PTs before Oct. were 177, 178, 179, 180, 180, 178. I hit only 170 on the real thing. But looking at my PTs just solidifies the fact that I need to retake.

I'm actually feeling good about it. Going to do a few -- not a ton -- of PTs. I'm also going to work my way back through the LSAT Trainer and make sure I stay sharp on LG with 7sage.

Excited to get back to prep guys and gals.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby rdelaney » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:49 pm

Checking in for December. Got a 152 on October and was PTing around 157.

LR killed me this time so I'm spending most of the month going through Powerscore LR and Manhattan LR (with Cambridge packets) and thinking about signing up for the Powerscore Weekend class to brush up on the other subjects and have a teacher to ask questions after I finish the two books. Then PT for the remaining weeks.

Anyone know anything about the Powerscore Weekend class? I've read about it and seen people's reviews, but results/opinions seem to be mixed...

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby NotASpecialSnowflake » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:52 pm

Any advice on how to improve on RC in 5 weeks?


I could use some help on this too. Per LsatQA my worst spot by far is the suggestion/implied questions. It says I make about 2.6 errors on it per RC section :oops: Others are main idea/point and agreements but that's only a .8 error rate combined.

Also, I have LG down thanks to powerscore. I recommend their bible for LG.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby jk148706 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:52 pm

bee wrote:
jk148706 wrote:So I was just looking at LSATQA and my last PTs before Oct. were 177, 178, 179, 180, 180, 178. I hit only 170 on the real thing. But looking at my PTs just solidifies the fact that I need to retake.

I'm actually feeling good about it. Going to do a few -- not a ton -- of PTs. I'm also going to work my way back through the LSAT Trainer and make sure I stay sharp on LG with 7sage.

Excited to get back to prep guys and gals.


i know dat feel. my last couple of PTs before october were 180 180 180 176 180 178 and i also scored 170 on the real thing :|

it's okay, jk. #decemberkillers


It's just brutal looking at what I missed though. I just completely forgot to bubble a question on RC, lost a stooooppid point on LG and missed SEVEN on LR. That never happened on a PT.

Absolutely brutal. But luckily I have Dec to make up for it.

Bee, I think we all agree you will be 175+; I will be happy with 172+ honestly.

#decemberkillers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby jk148706 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:55 pm

Also, Bee, (you've probably already discussed this somewhere), but are you submitting apps BEFORE Dec. and just telling admissions that you are retaking in Dec. Or are you going to wait?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Balthy » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:57 pm

I'm thinking of taking only 6-section tests from here on out (12 to 15 composite tests). I know burnout potential varies a lot between people but does this sound like a bad idea? Should I maybe only do a few 6-sections for some endurance practice but generally stick to 5?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby cheme2014 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:59 pm

superdingle2000 wrote:I'm thinking of taking only 6-section tests from here on out (12 to 15 composite tests). I know burnout potential varies a lot between people but does this sound like a bad idea? Should I maybe only do a few 6-sections for some endurance practice but generally stick to 5?


I do six sections and it works for me, but like you said, it depends on the person :)

ETA: Working on endurance is one reason I do six-section tests, but the main reason for me is that I have a fair amount of fresh PTs left and I want to get through them all. :oops:
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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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