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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby retaking23 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:38 am

chizzy wrote:
Otunga wrote:
chizzy wrote:so i just took a timed RC section and missed 16 questions :shock:
RC has been really shaky for me and i feel really dissapointed right now.
i would love some suggestions about how to approach RC. i don't know, i feel like i'm doing something wrong :(


What'd you score in Oct? Have you read Manhattan and/or The Trainer?


i recently read the trainer, and changed my strategy. i think its because i changed my strategy so late.


What exactly is affecting the negative performance?

I have adopted the Trainer and used it to adjust my natural reading approach where I would focus primarily on understanding the material (this sometimes would work like a charm and at other times would end disastrously). I am inclined to try to understand how everything in the passage is used and this approach is awful when I encounter convoluted material (ocean mapping) or when there is heavy emphasis on detail. The Trainer says to put details to the background and simply try to find the main ideas and just identify the parts that affect them. In other words, it's encouraging you to read to get a very simple understanding but expect to and be comfortable with going back to the passage to dig up details. I found this strategy worked greatly for me because it asked me to do a lot less than what I was trying and failing to do with my read.

Also, inference questions on RC are very detailed base as well in that unless something was mentioned or expressly alluded to in the passage itself, it is highly unlikely to be a correct inference. The !Kung passage on PT67 had many inference questions of this nature. All were "wtf" questions with crappy choices but the right answers were consistently the ones which were mentioned in one way or another in the passage. Basically, to use the Trainer know that you'll have to go back to the passage and probably constantly too unless you have super recall.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:57 am

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby NotASpecialSnowflake » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:06 pm

Would you guys recommend drilling LR and RC (which I haven't done in a while) or taking another PT? My last couple scores have been great (for me) and I'm worried about getting rusty on RC and LR. I'm going to be drilling Thursday regardless. Would another PT or drilling help me more?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby agglomeration » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:14 pm

Anyone know of any Logic games that are like number 3 from pt 70?

Also i love 7sage's videos for LG. Does anyone know of a resource that has something like that for RC? Or where i can find RC passages that are kinda broken down and annotated?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby angels2fly » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:23 pm

agglomeration wrote:Anyone know of any Logic games that are like number 3 from pt 70?

Also i love 7sage's videos for LG. Does anyone know of a resource that has something like that for RC? Or where i can find RC passages that are kinda broken down and annotated?


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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Fianna13 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:39 pm

Couldn't sleep until like 3. Not to mention my gums somehow got infected. Decided to wake up and 6 to drill some games. Didn't turn out so well. Pretty sure my whole day is ruined for lsat related activities. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN 3 DAYS BEFORE THE TEST?!?

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Otunga » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:46 pm

Lol. I dreamt that I was at Michigan Law, but that the campus looked like Cornell Law. :shock:

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby blackbirdfly » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:01 pm

PT 68, RC: -8, LR1: -2, LR2: -3, LG: -0. 169. Disappointing. RC was always my best section. IDK what has changed. I'm probably going to withdraw.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby retaking23 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:36 pm

blackbirdfly wrote:PT 68, RC: -8, LR1: -2, LR2: -3, LG: -0. 169. Disappointing. RC was always my best section. IDK what has changed. I'm probably going to withdraw.


169 is still a great score and I wouldn't worry too much about it if it's an outlier. Review, review, review. Since RC is your best section, the -8 is probably an anomaly and maybe you should think of this performance as a floor. Ceiling's looking pretty good, eh?

Otunga wrote:Lol. I dreamt that I was at Michigan Law, but that the campus looked like Cornell Law. :shock:


That is one helluva of dream. Assuming that you are familiar with these schools from brief visits, I'm impressed that you are able to identify and differentiate between them. I went on a campus tour before of 8 regional colleges in the south and I couldn't tell one apart from the other the next day. Was in high school though so I didn't care as much.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:39 pm

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Fianna13 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:41 pm

Otunga wrote:Lol. I dreamt that I was at Michigan Law, but that the campus looked like Cornell Law. :shock:


So which campus is better? LOL.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby OVOXO » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:06 pm

PT 65: the finale

Took this in the lib, with a real proctor, 9 am start time, 15 min break, etc etc

LR1 −3 (ugh)
LR2 −2
LG −1
RC −4

91, 173

I deliberately put RC, which was the third section on this PT, last to make it harder. Unfortunately, my bad habit of making a dumb LG error even with time remaining and getting sluggish by passage 4 on RC both continued. Hoping some R&R will do the trick.

24 tests taken, 177 highest, 169 lowest. 173 mean, and 173 mode. At this point, I’ll be happy with any of those scores (well, I may complain about the second :P)

Good luck to everyone. See ya’ll on the other side.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby vicpin5190 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:46 pm

OVOXO wrote:PT 65: the finale

Took this in the lib, with a real proctor, 9 am start time, 15 min break, etc etc

LR1 −3 (ugh)
LR2 −2
LG −1
RC −4

91, 173

I deliberately put RC, which was the third section on this PT, last to make it harder. Unfortunately, my bad habit of making a dumb LG error even with time remaining and getting sluggish by passage 4 on RC both continued. Hoping some R&R will do the trick.

24 tests taken, 177 highest, 169 lowest. 173 mean, and 173 mode. At this point, I’ll be happy with any of those scores (well, I may complain about the second :P)

Good luck to everyone. See ya’ll on the other side.


Congrats! Good luck Saturday. I think we're all more than prepared, it's just about keeping your cool now.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:01 pm

vicpin5190 wrote:
Congrats! Good luck Saturday. I think we're all more than prepared, it's just about keeping your cool now.


Ha, I accidentally quit smoking Sunday... I think any chance of me keeping my cool has vanished :)

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:05 pm

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:21 pm

dosto wrote:
CookieDough wrote:
vicpin5190 wrote:
Congrats! Good luck Saturday. I think we're all more than prepared, it's just about keeping your cool now.


Ha, I accidentally quit smoking Sunday... I think any chance of me keeping my cool has vanished :)


How does one accidentally quit smoking (I assume we're talking about cigs here)?


Yes, cigs. Umm I was sick Sunday, so I didn't even think about having one, and the next thing I knew it'd been 24 hours, and it seemed stupid to start up again (I was planning on quitting after the test anyway).

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:28 pm

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:43 pm

dosto wrote:
Good job on quitting and maintaining your composure before the test sans cigs. I've seen some friends get totally wrecked by withdrawal.


Thanks! I quit once before about ten years ago, so at least I know what to expect this time around. I'm not going to lie I may have gotten irrationally livid once or twice this week :oops: I'm hoping that the cravings will subside a bit by saturday, or that the nerves from the test won't let me focus on them!

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby cheme2014 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:02 pm

CookieDough wrote:
dosto wrote:
Good job on quitting and maintaining your composure before the test sans cigs. I've seen some friends get totally wrecked by withdrawal.


Thanks! I quit once before about ten years ago, so at least I know what to expect this time around. I'm not going to lie I may have gotten irrationally livid once or twice this week :oops: I'm hoping that the cravings will subside a bit by saturday, or that the nerves from the test won't let me focus on them!


Sending you more good luck! Hopefully you have a few things that will make it a bit easier for you (my friend carried around a huge bag of dark chocolate chips for a while lol)

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby CookieDough » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:17 pm

cheme2014 wrote:
CookieDough wrote:
dosto wrote:
Good job on quitting and maintaining your composure before the test sans cigs. I've seen some friends get totally wrecked by withdrawal.


Thanks! I quit once before about ten years ago, so at least I know what to expect this time around. I'm not going to lie I may have gotten irrationally livid once or twice this week :oops: I'm hoping that the cravings will subside a bit by saturday, or that the nerves from the test won't let me focus on them!


Sending you more good luck! Hopefully you have a few things that will make it a bit easier for you (my friend carried around a huge bag of dark chocolate chips for a while lol)


Thanks!! I'm nursing a giant bag of pretzels!

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby cheme2014 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:44 pm

dosto wrote:Although it's my favorite, I'd REALLY like to have LG over with as fast as possible (first section like 70 would be ideal). It's the section with the greatest variable difficulty I feel, and the one where it's easiest to know how well you did. Doing well and getting it out of the way makes the rest of the test smoother imo (as opposed to having the possibility of a killer section lingering).


Same. As much as I hated having LR and RC back-to-back, having LG up front definitely helped me breathe a little (well, until I got to LR/RC, anyway lol), and I was able to treat it more like a warm-up section to wake my sleepy brain up.

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Re: December 2013 Retakers

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