Post removed.

User avatar
Otunga
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:56 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Otunga » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:52 pm

bee wrote:
Otunga wrote:Not sure what's going on, but I went down 2 points on a retake of 51 today, and I appear to be declining in LR, once again getting -6 or worse.

169 (171)

LR -6 (-4)
LG -0 (-3)
RC -6 (-3)
SP C LR1 -3

I'm very discouraged and frustrated. I know I've only done some light drilling of RC since Oct, but I shouldn't be hitting -6, particularly since that's 3 points WORSE than my original take of the section. What the fuck?

When it comes down to it, I'd take -6 LR on test day since that's still 3 better than the Oct take. But I need to be doing as I was with RC (-3 average and on an upward trend) to feel more comfortable going in. The problem is I've seen all the most recent sections more than twice, so I explicitly recall much of the content and it's just nothing like a real section. I might have to buy some ancient sections just for practice.

I ate exactly what I would on test day (oatmeal and synchro) and did it about an hour and 15 minutes before I started the test, to be a bit realistic.

have you finished all the rc from the 40s and 50s?


50s, yes. 40s, no; actually forgot. I have 45 46 and 47 all fresh that I could buy. I didn't want to take them as fresh tests because the LR performances generally destroy my confidence on the 40s, but I ended up re-drilling some LR sections anyway. :shock:

dosto
Posts: 784
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:50 am

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:56 pm

.
Last edited by dosto on Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
vicpin5190
Posts: 743
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:12 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby vicpin5190 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:04 pm

dosto wrote:
bee wrote: if you havent taken 70 within the last few weeks, i'd take it again.


Never crossed my mind to re-retake 70, but I might just do that. Otherwise I just have 62 left.

eta retook 69 this morning and all these new LG inferences jumped out at me this time around. Funny how that works.


Overall, save a section or 2, i haven't noticed much of a difference between the latest LRs and the older ones. I'm being relatively consistent in general on those sections (-10 to -5 range combined), it's the RCs that are now baffling me. I'm thinking something must have gotten away from me on RCs, that I'm neglecting something I did before...I'm going to drill extensively after my PT review tonight and then tomorrow will take PT 60 again (my diagnostic). I was calm last night but i'm a bit more rattled right now....

062914123
Posts: 1846
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:11 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby 062914123 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:06 pm

.
Last edited by 062914123 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

062914123
Posts: 1846
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:11 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby 062914123 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:08 pm

.
Last edited by 062914123 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

dosto
Posts: 784
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:50 am

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:13 pm

.
Last edited by dosto on Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
vicpin5190
Posts: 743
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:12 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby vicpin5190 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:15 pm

bee wrote:
vicpin5190 wrote:
dosto wrote:
bee wrote: if you havent taken 70 within the last few weeks, i'd take it again.


Never crossed my mind to re-retake 70, but I might just do that. Otherwise I just have 62 left.

eta retook 69 this morning and all these new LG inferences jumped out at me this time around. Funny how that works.


Overall, save a section or 2, i haven't noticed much of a difference between the latest LRs and the older ones. I'm being relatively consistent in general on those sections (-10 to -5 range combined), it's the RCs that are now baffling me. I'm thinking something must have gotten away from me on RCs, that I'm neglecting something I did before...I'm going to drill extensively after my PT review tonight and then tomorrow will take PT 60 again (my diagnostic). I was calm last night but i'm a bit more rattled right now....

-10 to -5 is a HUGE range O__O i could go up to -8 combined on 40s lr but very rarely exceed -3/-2 combined on 60s lr. to me there is a huge, noticeable difference between 40s and 60s



I've gone -3,-10,-5,-10. Idk. Typically the -10 is often skeweed (one section goes fantastic the other goes awful). The Games stay consistent, but the RC is jut trending super downward. Idk. I'm like not too happy about anything right now. If i broke that LR scoring down further between 2 sections, its really only 2 sections out of 8 that are skewing the difference.

User avatar
lsatyolo
Posts: 1816
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:17 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby lsatyolo » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:28 pm

if it helps, i retook 67... and gained 1 point. that was it. even though i knew about all the curveballs ahead of time and still didnt really improve. 67 is an awful, awful pt. that -10 curve may be the most unfair curve ever.



It was strange to me because I didn't feel like it was that overwhelming. RC didn't feel as tough as usual but, as usual, it was my worst section. The section I thought was the toughest ended up being my best (LR2).


I'm just hoping 68 is nicer to me as it is my last fresh test. I'll probably take it Thursday, I wanted to throw a retake in on Tuesday.

dosto
Posts: 784
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:50 am

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:47 pm

.
Last edited by dosto on Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

062914123
Posts: 1846
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:11 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby 062914123 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:50 pm

.
Last edited by 062914123 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
mellow
Posts: 296
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:07 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby mellow » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:04 pm

PT61 Retake
LR1: -0 / LR2: -0 / LG: -0 / RC: -2 / PT11 RC as Exp: -2

99/101, 180.

I feel like I've maxed out my studying material. I've done PTs 40-70 and retook every single test that I got 170 or less on previously. What do you guys (and gals) suggest I do next? I can buy pre-40 PTs, retake tests I've gotten 170+ on, or just drill I guess.

User avatar
OVOXO
Posts: 180
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:01 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby OVOXO » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:06 pm

bee wrote:
dosto wrote:
bee wrote:i hate that paralegal game with the firey passion of a thousand exploding suns


This combined with your dislike of Zone game from 66 makes me think you are not a fan of certain grouping games with not both rules.

hahaha you're right. there was a q in paralegals that tested the not both rule and i wasted 5 mins on it because i totally forgot the not both rule existed. i think its more that i never REMEMBER that its not both, even though i write it down clearly in my rules list.



I DID THIS TOO AND LG IS MY STRONGEST SECTION

ugh.

dosto
Posts: 784
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:50 am

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:11 pm

.
Last edited by dosto on Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:04 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
OVOXO
Posts: 180
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:01 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby OVOXO » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:12 pm

Bros, I went from avging −3 to −5 total LR wrong to getting −9 on 70. Was it me or was it 70? And any suggestions on how to get my game back?

User avatar
vicpin5190
Posts: 743
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:12 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby vicpin5190 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:17 pm

OVOXO wrote:Bros, I went from avging −3 to −5 total LR wrong to getting −9 on 70. Was it me or was it 70? And any suggestions on how to get my game back?


70 is my lowest PT sore in 6 weeks, fwiw. :oops:

User avatar
lsatyolo
Posts: 1816
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:17 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby lsatyolo » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:17 pm

dosto wrote:
lsatyolo wrote:
if it helps, i retook 67... and gained 1 point. that was it. even though i knew about all the curveballs ahead of time and still didnt really improve. 67 is an awful, awful pt. that -10 curve may be the most unfair curve ever.



It was strange to me because I didn't feel like it was that overwhelming. RC didn't feel as tough as usual but, as usual, it was my worst section. The section I thought was the toughest ended up being my best (LR2).


I'm just hoping 68 is nicer to me as it is my last fresh test. I'll probably take it Thursday, I wanted to throw a retake in on Tuesday.


I'd recommend taking 68 Tuesday and your retake Thursday. Gives you more time to review 68 and then wind down your prep; the retake could also serve as a confidence booster whereas a bad Thursday performance on 68 could shake you up a bit.



Probably gonna take that advice.

User avatar
Otunga
Posts: 1317
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:56 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Otunga » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:48 pm

bee wrote:
vicpin5190 wrote:
dosto wrote:
bee wrote: if you havent taken 70 within the last few weeks, i'd take it again.


Never crossed my mind to re-retake 70, but I might just do that. Otherwise I just have 62 left.

eta retook 69 this morning and all these new LG inferences jumped out at me this time around. Funny how that works.


Overall, save a section or 2, i haven't noticed much of a difference between the latest LRs and the older ones. I'm being relatively consistent in general on those sections (-10 to -5 range combined), it's the RCs that are now baffling me. I'm thinking something must have gotten away from me on RCs, that I'm neglecting something I did before...I'm going to drill extensively after my PT review tonight and then tomorrow will take PT 60 again (my diagnostic). I was calm last night but i'm a bit more rattled right now....

-10 to -5 is a HUGE range O__O i could go up to -8 combined on 40s lr but very rarely exceed -3/-2 combined on 60s lr. to me there is a huge, noticeable difference between 40s and 60s


60s LR is poetic in a sense due to how clean the arguments are. Some of the 40s LR is more open to interpretation, or at least that's the impression I get from them.

While I've been struggling with LR between 40-52, I have to say that I did improve on retakes of 69 and 70, and I thought 66-68 to be fairly easy, and that lends me some confidence for the section that I need.

User avatar
retaking23
Posts: 453
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:34 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby retaking23 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:32 pm

PT 66 (retake from a little over two months ago)

Score: 176

RC: -1
LR: -2
LG: -0
LR: -2

RC seemed easier than usual. The questions were very straightforward with wrong answer choices sticking out pretty, uncharacteristically, blatantly. (Although this might be because I saw this test before and my eyes were a little trained.) LG was so weird. I felt the first and second games were harder, in that they took more time to do, than the last two games. Was a little unnerved when I saw I only had 14 minutes to do last two games.

I got number two on the second LR wrong and spent like 5 minutes on it too. So sad. Can anyone provide an explanation for it and instruct me on how to do it quickly and effectively?

User avatar
retaking23
Posts: 453
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:34 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby retaking23 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:38 pm

OVOXO wrote:Bros, I went from avging −3 to −5 total LR wrong to getting −9 on 70. Was it me or was it 70? And any suggestions on how to get my game back?


For me, the issue on 70 was wasting (notice, I didn't write spending) too much time deliberating on the tougher questions and there were only two or three total on both sections combined. I think 70's LR required people like us, who aren't LR slouches but no LR masters either, to really have mental discipline and manage our time wisely, especially in that second section. Also, the stimuli were very wordy and this only exacerbated time pressures. So, if this applies to you, I'd suggest just consciously not going through a problem more than two times unless you've finished everything else and still have time left over.

User avatar
vicpin5190
Posts: 743
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:12 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby vicpin5190 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:21 pm

I just went through 70 on my review. First section, of the 3 i missed, 2 were complete wiffs and very duh moments. ON the 2nd LR, there were 5 (of the 7) i missed that I narrowed it down to the right choices and fell through a hole. I agree about the post above and mental discipline though, LR#2 especially. RC was a mess, it's pretty evident I got away from reading for the arguments though, so that's good to know.

Anywhoo, time to do some drillin of RC. I'm going to take PT 60 tomorrow I think, and maybe even throw in June 2007 for good measure.

062914123
Posts: 1846
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:11 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby 062914123 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:28 pm

.
Last edited by 062914123 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

062914123
Posts: 1846
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:11 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby 062914123 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:29 pm

.
Last edited by 062914123 on Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Hotguy
Posts: 382
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:33 am

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby Hotguy » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:02 pm

Is anyone taking a pt on Thursday or just light review?
Whats the credited approach for the last two days?
Also pre-lsat on test day, anyone exercising or walking or anything like that to get the blood pumped?

dosto
Posts: 784
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:50 am

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby dosto » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:10 pm

.
Last edited by dosto on Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:04 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
vicpin5190
Posts: 743
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:12 pm

Re: December 2013 Retakers

Postby vicpin5190 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:22 pm

dosto wrote:How are you all feeling regarding your problem areas you wanted to work on after October? I'd request this to be put in poll form, but our benevolent leader has left us :( .

I've trimmed RC errors down to -1 on recent PTs thankfully. LR I was getting max -3 total on PTs before Oct; that didn't prevent a -9, and considering we'll probably get something similar, all I can tell myself is to pay more attention to nuances and not eliminate answers so quickly. Actually I have no idea how LR will work out. Games are sex, but I will obviously be very relieved if we get a standard section.


Games are the best kind of sex.

I don't think I haven't looked forward to doing a games section yet in my PTing. I'm seeing that for me LR is clearly trust my 2nd instinct over my first. I had to prominent moments during my PT today where I realized I was about to make a mistake and patted myself on the back for it. I need more of those moments next Saturday.




Return to “LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: laqueredup, MSNbot Media, Walliums and 11 guests