LR Role of a Statement

mwhuzain
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LR Role of a Statement

Postby mwhuzain » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:23 pm

Any good advice or links are appreciated.

I'm still getting these wrong...

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Jeffort
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Re: LR Role of a Statement

Postby Jeffort » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:17 pm

Without specific details of the issues you are having with this question type there is not much anyone can tell you other than to learn/review the basics of the question type by perhaps reading the chapters in a good prep guide that covers them.

If you have specific issues or problems with solving them that you are aware of, telling us what they are would be helpful if you want specific answers that apply to your situation, otherwise people can only give general answers.

Other than reading/reviewing prep guides about this question type, you should also carefully review the ones you get wrong to determine why you selected the incorrect answer and not the correct answer for each one to determine your mistakes that need to be fixed.

PS: since this question type is about very basic LR skills involving being able to identify and differentiate conclusions, sub-conclusions, premises and counter premises, missing many of them indicates that you have a serious weakness with the fundamental ability to properly break down an argument into its pieces and to see the basic reasoning structure. Having trouble doing that is not good since it will affect you badly on most LR question types. You really need to understand and be good at the basic tasks of being able to properly ID conclusions and understand the relationships the other argument components have to it in order to do well on all LR question types that are based on an argument. These are foundational skills that all other LR skills are built upon, so you should review the basics of how to breakdown and analyze an argument. The basics of doing that are covered in the very beginning of most prep guides when they introduce the LR section and talk about the preliminary basics, such as "what is an argument? premises and conclusions".

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Re: LR Role of a Statement

Postby JWP1022 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:52 pm

Always remember to only evaluate the exact statement the stimulus directs you to. Nothing more, and nothing less.

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Re: LR Role of a Statement

Postby mwhuzain » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:25 pm

Jeffort wrote:Without specific details of the issues you are having with this question type there is not much anyone can tell you other than to learn/review the basics of the question type by perhaps reading the chapters in a good prep guide that covers them.

If you have specific issues or problems with solving them that you are aware of, telling us what they are would be helpful if you want specific answers that apply to your situation, otherwise people can only give general answers.

Other than reading/reviewing prep guides about this question type, you should also carefully review the ones you get wrong to determine why you selected the incorrect answer and not the correct answer for each one to determine your mistakes that need to be fixed.

PS: since this question type is about very basic LR skills involving being able to identify and differentiate conclusions, sub-conclusions, premises and counter premises, missing many of them indicates that you have a serious weakness with the fundamental ability to properly break down an argument into its pieces and to see the basic reasoning structure. Having trouble doing that is not good since it will affect you badly on most LR question types. You really need to understand and be good at the basic tasks of being able to properly ID conclusions and understand the relationships the other argument components have to it in order to do well on all LR question types that are based on an argument. These are foundational skills that all other LR skills are built upon, so you should review the basics of how to breakdown and analyze an argument. The basics of doing that are covered in the very beginning of most prep guides when they introduce the LR section and talk about the preliminary basics, such as "what is an argument? premises and conclusions".


It's frustrating because my book with all the practice questions kinda skimped on the ROAS.
I'm gonna look for some more come back with the ones I got wrong.

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Re: LR Role of a Statement

Postby Jeffort » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:47 pm

Oh, maybe that is a big part of the problem you are having with the question type. Which prep book are you using? If it doesn't cover argument breakdown and analysis of components thoroughly or very well you are probably not using one of the good self study prep books.

The stuff I'm talking about is not only discussed in the part of LR books intended to talk specifically about this question type. I'm talking about the entire foundation of LR arguments that is conceptually described and defined in the intro to the LR section part of prep books. The part where they talk about the building blocks with examples and all that good stuff. Very intro stuff such as 'what is an argument? what is a premise? What is a conclusion? What is a counter premise?'.

The specific chapter about this question type that comes later in LR prep books is typically just a summary/outline of all that foundational stuff that is discussed at length in the intro to arguments portion of the book. It includes descriptions of techniques to determine argument parts, such as whether something is the conclusion or not.

I mention this as possibly being a matter of great concern because it is such a basic question type that is only testing very low level basic argument component identification skills that you need to have in order to be able to do the more advanced analysis other more difficult question types require.




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