How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

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How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby steven21 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:12 pm

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby ManoftheHour » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:39 pm

Sign up for December.

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

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Postby ManoftheHour » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:48 pm

The advantage you speak of is pretty insignificant if you can score a few points higher in December.

If you have to ask, you're not ready (ready in terms of achieving your true LSAT potential). If there was a method that can bring someone from the 160s to the 170s in two weeks, let me know. Let all of TLS know.

If you think you can get a 170 by October, then that's more understandable. That IS doable.

If I were you and were feeling confident, I'd just sign up. If you're not ready, just cancel the test and take December. $160 is chump change in the grand scheme of things.

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby ManoftheHour » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:48 pm

steven21 wrote:I have followed every guide on here and have waited two cycles already


Then we're in the same boat. How many times have you taken? Can you take December if you don't succeed in October? If you can, I'd just take both exams if you're unwilling to sit out another cycle.

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby objection_your_honor » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:52 pm

If you've been studying for close to two years as you've indicated, there is no magic technique that is going to get you there. You need to be systematically reviewing your PTs for errors and sloppy thinking. You have a huge sample size to judge where you're going wrong. Isolate those areas and eliminate weaknesses.

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Postby steven21 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:07 pm

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Postby ManoftheHour » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:15 pm

steven21 wrote:Thanks. Multiple tests aren't viewed favorably so I don't think it's worth the gamble.


Not true at all. It's a different market nowadays. Schools don't give a shit. Outside of HYS, it doesn't matter. When the T14s are trying to keep their medians, they'll take any high scorer they can get. 170+s are becoming a rare commodity.

It's not a gamble. I'm serious. There is a TLSer (forgot his name) that took the LSAT FOUR times. He got to JS2 for Harvard before getting rejected.

I aim to replicate his success.

<------- 4th time taker this December.

Take a look at this too:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=215104

Schools only have to report one score to the ABA. I don't think UCLA will give a shit if you get a 160, 160, and then a 169. They'll welcome you with open arms after their median just dropped a point and their 25th percentile dropped to a 162 from a 164.

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Postby steven21 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:33 pm

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby vuthy » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:37 pm

You may need to at least consider the possibility that you have an LSAT ceiling, and that you've hit it. I know that TLS sometimes gives one the impression that everyone can clear 175 with enough effort. But it isn't true. I'm not trying to be discouraging, but if you've really been at this for two years, and you have a tutor, and you're still PTing at 166, then I think it might be time to expand your horizons beyond HYS.

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Postby steven21 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:54 pm

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby rebexness » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:30 pm

Just sign up and go hard.

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Postby steven21 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:41 pm

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby Bratva » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:54 pm

maybe you still haven't clicked in lr. rereading some of the guides might help? if you've been studying for a long time, a jump in lr isn't impossible. the only thing i guess to worry about is that it's become a habit for you to do lr in a certain way that it's hard to change it. but do you get all of the questions correct untimed?

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby steven21 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:59 pm

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby Bratva » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:07 am

steven21 wrote:yes, but i don't know if it is an accurate indicator because i have done all the LR questions/sections multiple times. PT 56,59,62-69 are the only ones I haven't done because I need to save them for full PTs.



so you get all of the questions correct untimed? interesting...
is it the time that's influencing your accuracy then?
why don't you do a new pt. be very very careful and see what happens. when's the latest new pt you've done and how did you do on that?

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Postby steven21 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:13 am

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby Bratva » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:22 am

steven21 wrote:PT 60 was the most recent. 166, LR 19/24, LG 20/23 (unusually bad section), LR 21/25, RC 22/27


ahhhh. i remember pt 60. i got 6 wrong for the rc section. but i only got 3 wrong total for both lr sections and 0 wrong for lg.

take out your pts, go over the ones you've gotten wrong and the ones that you weren't sure about. oh and how much time does it take you to finish the 2 sections. do you barely finish on time? or do you have extra time to go back
identify types (if you can), reread manhattan lr guide for the specific types.
if you can truly say you understand every each question.
then relax, do a new pt and see what happens.
try to get lg to -0 on the next pt.
sometimes concentrating on past mistakes for a day or two can help you identify traps/tricks on the new pts more easily and clearly.

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby magickware » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:25 am

How do you review your LR questions?

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby steven21 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:27 am

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby magickware » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:32 am

Do you take the time to understand what the passage is saying and dissect it if it's an assumption family question, or if it's anything in the whole inference family, take the time to follow each piece of information to its natural conclusion?

And do you take the time to know why each answer is right and wrong?

Especially important is finding out the common thread that links that particular question to its respective question type. Every question has these, and if you just look at the question on its lonesome then you only get good at that question, but lack the necessary knowledge to see how another question is exactly the same, but only has different subject matter.

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby steven21 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:45 am

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Re: How to get from the 160s to the 170s befor regist.date sep13

Postby magickware » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:49 am

It's not so much a reiteration as that they all share certain commonalities in either approach or the flaw involved.

I mean, it's not like one flaw question can be much more different from another flaw question, or that one necc. assumption question can be that much different from another one.

You use the exact same approach for each question type. As such, one can expect the answers to follow some general train of thought as well.




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