February 2014 LSAT Study Group

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby xylocarp » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:14 pm

zhenders wrote:Xylocarp, I go 4 sections, 15 min. Break, 4 sections (so it's not 2 with experimental back to back). The whole idea is fatigue training, so I make myself wait to grade everything until the end :) it IS hard -- but it's pretty cool and satisfying.

Anecdotally, both times I did it, my SECOND test was 3 or 4 points higher than the firs! Go figure :)


And: bicycles. Fuck em'. On break for 64. Easy game, easy game, WHOABICYCLES, easy game.

I might try this on my test center adventure tomorrow morning. Thanks!

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby zhenders » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:59 pm

Xylocarp, for sure :) just go ahead and plan a delicious meal afterwards and maybe a massage. You might hate life for the rest of the day ;-)


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Overall, happy with 64; just graded it:

LR1: -2
LG: -1
LR2: -2
RC: -1

-6/176

These LR sections felt different; a couple questions really tripped me up. -4 on LR is more than I've missed for five tests or so. Still, -1 on RC (it felt like a significantly easier RC section than usual) balanced it out. It's a point shy of my goal, but still, I'm happy. 65 on tuesday -- drilling until then.

I'm still scared of a really hard LG section on test day. I think I can handle anything else, but one truly insane LG could wreck the test pretty bad.

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby pech71 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:05 pm

withoutapaddle wrote:After scoring 173- 171- 170 on three previous tests in a row my score dropped to 164 yesterday

I've been drilling for about 8 - 10 hours a day for five days in a row. Should I take a break from drilling PT's? With 15 days left I'm worried that taking any days off is a bad idea


I took a break last night for first time in 2 weeks and I feel great today. So much more efficient on my cases at work too. Breaks are good as long as they are not too often.

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby xylocarp » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:13 pm

zhenders wrote:Xylocarp, for sure :) just go ahead and plan a delicious meal afterwards and maybe a massage. You might hate life for the rest of the day ;-)


Haha, will do. Speaking of delicious meals, has anyone tried Salvadoran food? It's my new obsession.

zhenders wrote:Overall, happy with 64; just graded it:

LR1: -2
LG: -1
LR2: -2
RC: -1

-6/176

These LR sections felt different; a couple questions really tripped me up. -4 on LR is more than I've missed for five tests or so. Still, -1 on RC (it felt like a significantly easier RC section than usual) balanced it out. It's a point shy of my goal, but still, I'm happy. 65 on tuesday -- drilling until then.

I'm still scared of a really hard LG section on test day. I think I can handle anything else, but one truly insane LG could wreck the test pretty bad.


Congrats on the score! Every section lookin' good.

I have the exact same fear. I feel like if we get an easy LG, I'm going to get mid-170s, and if we get a hard LG, I'm going to get a 120 and then die.

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby pech71 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:41 pm

xylocarp wrote:
zhenders wrote:Xylocarp, for sure :) just go ahead and plan a delicious meal afterwards and maybe a massage. You might hate life for the rest of the day ;-)


Haha, will do. Speaking of delicious meals, has anyone tried Salvadoran food? It's my new obsession.

zhenders wrote:Overall, happy with 64; just graded it:

LR1: -2
LG: -1
LR2: -2
RC: -1

-6/176

These LR sections felt different; a couple questions really tripped me up. -4 on LR is more than I've missed for five tests or so. Still, -1 on RC (it felt like a significantly easier RC section than usual) balanced it out. It's a point shy of my goal, but still, I'm happy. 65 on tuesday -- drilling until then.

I'm still scared of a really hard LG section on test day. I think I can handle anything else, but one truly insane LG could wreck the test pretty bad.


Congrats on the score! Every section lookin' good.

I have the exact same fear. I feel like if we get an easy LG, I'm going to get mid-170s, and if we get a hard LG, I'm going to get a 120 and then die.


woah...that escalated quickly.....

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby 90convoy » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:45 pm

Just ordered the 180watch. Shits getting real now. Expecting an automatic 3 point boost.

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby Nicolena. » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:49 pm

zhenders wrote:
Miracle wrote:
zhenders wrote:There's a Mitt Romney documentary? So he's running again? *sigh*

Also: great idea with your school reading, BankruptMe -- and frankly, not now will it be useful for LSAT, it will mean you will OWN that material in class.


I'm at the coffee shop, about to begin PT64. Shooting for 3 good ones in a row.


3 PT's?

Back to back, or some break in between?


Aah! No :-) the last two I did were at my target score -- I'm just hoping this one is too.

With that said, I've done two tests back to back twice now, and I highly recommend it for fatigue training; next week, I will probably be doing 70/71 back to back on Thursday, then drilling on Friday before the Saturday test. After you do a back-to-back test, 5 sections feels crazy easy.


Do you plan to take any other back to back before test day? How long ago did you do this? Also have you taken 70/71 before?

I'd like to test this out.
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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby xylocarp » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:51 pm

pech71 wrote:
xylocarp wrote:
zhenders wrote:Xylocarp, for sure :) just go ahead and plan a delicious meal afterwards and maybe a massage. You might hate life for the rest of the day ;-)


Haha, will do. Speaking of delicious meals, has anyone tried Salvadoran food? It's my new obsession.

zhenders wrote:Overall, happy with 64; just graded it:

LR1: -2
LG: -1
LR2: -2
RC: -1

-6/176

These LR sections felt different; a couple questions really tripped me up. -4 on LR is more than I've missed for five tests or so. Still, -1 on RC (it felt like a significantly easier RC section than usual) balanced it out. It's a point shy of my goal, but still, I'm happy. 65 on tuesday -- drilling until then.

I'm still scared of a really hard LG section on test day. I think I can handle anything else, but one truly insane LG could wreck the test pretty bad.


Congrats on the score! Every section lookin' good.

I have the exact same fear. I feel like if we get an easy LG, I'm going to get mid-170s, and if we get a hard LG, I'm going to get a 120 and then die.


woah...that escalated quickly.....

I dunno I thought it was pretty reasonable





*sarcasm

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby Miracle » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:53 pm

zhenders wrote:
Miracle wrote:
zhenders wrote:There's a Mitt Romney documentary? So he's running again? *sigh*

Also: great idea with your school reading, BankruptMe -- and frankly, not now will it be useful for LSAT, it will mean you will OWN that material in class.


I'm at the coffee shop, about to begin PT64. Shooting for 3 good ones in a row.


3 PT's?

Back to back, or some break in between?


Aah! No :-) the last two I did were at my target score -- I'm just hoping this one is too.

With that said, I've done two tests back to back twice now, and I highly recommend it for fatigue training; next week, I will probably be doing 70/71 back to back on Thursday, then drilling on Friday before the Saturday test. After you do a back-to-back test, 5 sections feels crazy easy.


Im sooo trying it!!!

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Postby Miracle » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:54 pm

xylocarp wrote:
zhenders wrote:
Miracle wrote:
zhenders wrote:There's a Mitt Romney documentary? So he's running again? *sigh*

Also: great idea with your school reading, BankruptMe -- and frankly, not now will it be useful for LSAT, it will mean you will OWN that material in class.


I'm at the coffee shop, about to begin PT64. Shooting for 3 good ones in a row.


3 PT's?

Back to back, or some break in between?


Aah! No :-) the last two I did were at my target score -- I'm just hoping this one is too.

With that said, I've done two tests back to back twice now, and I highly recommend it for fatigue training; next week, I will probably be doing 70/71 back to back on Thursday, then drilling on Friday before the Saturday test. After you do a back-to-back test, 5 sections feels crazy easy.

When you do back to back tests, how much of a break do you take in between, if any? And do you score and/or go over the first PT before the second? I'm always super curious about how I did by the last section, so I'd probably have trouble just going on to the next one haha.


Im interested in this as well.

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby Miracle » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:54 pm

zhenders wrote:There's a Mitt Romney documentary? So he's running again? *sigh*

Also: great idea with your school reading, BankruptMe -- and frankly, not now will it be useful for LSAT, it will mean you will OWN that material in class.


I'm at the coffee shop, about to begin PT64. Shooting for 3 good ones in a row.


I hope not! He is a hot mess.

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby xylocarp » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:58 pm

Miracle wrote:
xylocarp wrote:
zhenders wrote:
Aah! No :-) the last two I did were at my target score -- I'm just hoping this one is too.

With that said, I've done two tests back to back twice now, and I highly recommend it for fatigue training; next week, I will probably be doing 70/71 back to back on Thursday, then drilling on Friday before the Saturday test. After you do a back-to-back test, 5 sections feels crazy easy.

When you do back to back tests, how much of a break do you take in between, if any? And do you score and/or go over the first PT before the second? I'm always super curious about how I did by the last section, so I'd probably have trouble just going on to the next one haha.


Im interested in this as well.


zhenders wrote:Xylocarp, I go 4 sections, 15 min. Break, 4 sections (so it's not 2 with experimental back to back). The whole idea is fatigue training, so I make myself wait to grade everything until the end :) it IS hard -- but it's pretty cool and satisfying.

Anecdotally, both times I did it, my SECOND test was 3 or 4 points higher than the firs! Go figure :)


HTH :)

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby alecks » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:26 pm

these last few points are elluding me. I seriously need to do like, +3/+4 better to hit/go over my goal. I panicked so badly yesterday and didn't finish my PT, back it it today after work and this weekend. I'm so scared :shock:

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Postby xylocarp » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:27 pm

alecks wrote:these last few points are elluding me. I seriously need to do like, +3/+4 better to hit/go over my goal. I panicked so badly yesterday and didn't finish my PT, back it it today after work and this weekend. I'm so scared :shock:

Don't be discouraged! What types of scores do you get per section? /How's your LG (since everybody says that's the easiest to improve on)?

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Postby zhenders » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:33 pm

alecks wrote:these last few points are elluding me. I seriously need to do like, +3/+4 better to hit/go over my goal. I panicked so badly yesterday and didn't finish my PT, back it it today after work and this weekend. I'm so scared :shock:


Don't sweat it. Do your best to stay relaxed during this next one; one section at a time :)


WRT tests back to back:

--I did this with -- as I remember -- 49/50 and 55/56.

--I have not taken 70/71 yet -- actually, at this point I have never (and won't have for the February test) retaken a PT; it's all fresh (I started my PTs at 41, and use 1-40/ already taken PTs for drilling)

--I don't plan on doing this again until 70/71, nope :)

-- and as I mentioned earlier, the idea behind it is to basically "overload" yourself intentionally, so that you unconsciously adjust on future tests to compensate for a longer test than it actually is. It's no different than doing a couple 10K runs before a competitive 5K -- it's just volume training :-)

For me it's all psychological; it's one more way to lower the pressure on test day.

And thanks Xylo, working hard here! And yeah, I totally understand what you mean. Super tough logic game on test day = I SHALL FAIL ALL OF THE THINGS in my mind.

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Postby BankruptMe » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:56 pm

Just got my vault career guide to Washington DC Law Firms.

Will give me extra encouragement to keep studying

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Postby eddiemen2a » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:07 pm

Was taking 61, got kicked out of the library 25 mins into section one. I was already in "the groove" I'm pretty pissed. What university library closes at 5? Gonna try and continue at home although i feel like it's a waste of a preptest. /rant

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Postby BankruptMe » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:11 pm

eddiemen2a wrote:Was taking 61, got kicked out of the library 25 mins into section one. I was already in "the groove" I'm pretty pissed. What university library closes at 5? Gonna try and continue at home although i feel like it's a waste of a preptest. /rant


Its Friday.

Most libs close from 5-8pm

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Postby eddiemen2a » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:13 pm

Yeah you're right. Still pissed, lol

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby alecks » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:18 pm

xylocarp wrote:
alecks wrote:these last few points are elluding me. I seriously need to do like, +3/+4 better to hit/go over my goal. I panicked so badly yesterday and didn't finish my PT, back it it today after work and this weekend. I'm so scared :shock:

Don't be discouraged! What types of scores do you get per section? /How's your LG (since everybody says that's the easiest to improve on)?


RC I'm usually -5 or less, LR it's -4 / -1, and LG it's usually -2/3 but I got -5 on PT 68 the other day... ugh.
Typically it's a combination. I went 166 on PT 65 and 169 on PT 58 as my last two tests. I'm hoping to get a 167-169 on the actual... so I'm sooooo close. I haven't drilled in a while, I've only been doing timed sections so maybe that could help with those couple extra points?

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby unodostres » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:24 pm

that feel when you miss -9 on rc, and miss 9 total on the rest of the exam.

and it was like a -2/-2/-3/-2. choplin passage really hurt my morale even though i thought i did worse. ocean passage screwed me on time and guessed/half assed on the last one. same ole shit all the time.

man, also, fuck that ball lg. i had like a good 9 minutes but dropped the ball. haha get it, ball drop. haha im so funny hahahahahahahahah not.

someone tell me that im going -0 on rc on test day. pls

what i did do that helped with my lr because i went -4/-3 for anyone in my situation... i drilled some 170 problems the day before. felt good.

for all my feb bros and gals, we are getting 4 straight up linear games with basic rules for an easy peasy -0.

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Postby BankruptMe » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:28 pm

unodostres wrote:that feel when you miss -9 on rc, and miss 9 total on the rest of the exam.

and it was like a -2/-2/-3/-2. choplin passage really hurt my morale even though i thought i did worse. ocean passage screwed me on time and guessed/half assed on the last one. same ole shit all the time.

man, also, fuck that ball lg. i had like a good 9 minutes but dropped the ball. haha get it, ball drop. haha im so funny hahahahahahahahah not.

someone tell me that im going -0 on rc on test day. pls

what i did do that helped with my lr because i went -4/-3 for anyone in my situation... i drilled some 170 problems the day before. felt good.

for all my feb bros and gals, we are getting 4 straight up linear games with basic rules for an easy peasy -0.


The force is strong with this one

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby unodostres » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:32 pm

BankruptMe wrote:
unodostres wrote:that feel when you miss -9 on rc, and miss 9 total on the rest of the exam.

and it was like a -2/-2/-3/-2. choplin passage really hurt my morale even though i thought i did worse. ocean passage screwed me on time and guessed/half assed on the last one. same ole shit all the time.

man, also, fuck that ball lg. i had like a good 9 minutes but dropped the ball. haha get it, ball drop. haha im so funny hahahahahahahahah not.

someone tell me that im going -0 on rc on test day. pls

what i did do that helped with my lr because i went -4/-3 for anyone in my situation... i drilled some 170 problems the day before. felt good.

for all my feb bros and gals, we are getting 4 straight up linear games with basic rules for an easy peasy -0.


The force is strong with this one


thanks babes. gunna work it hard tonight and do some more drilling.

playing this everywhere I go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyWXKeBsNk

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Re: February 2014 LSAT Study Group

Postby xylocarp » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:44 pm

alecks wrote:
xylocarp wrote:
alecks wrote:these last few points are elluding me. I seriously need to do like, +3/+4 better to hit/go over my goal. I panicked so badly yesterday and didn't finish my PT, back it it today after work and this weekend. I'm so scared :shock:

Don't be discouraged! What types of scores do you get per section? /How's your LG (since everybody says that's the easiest to improve on)?


RC I'm usually -5 or less, LR it's -4 / -1, and LG it's usually -2/3 but I got -5 on PT 68 the other day... ugh.
Typically it's a combination. I went 166 on PT 65 and 169 on PT 58 as my last two tests. I'm hoping to get a 167-169 on the actual... so I'm sooooo close. I haven't drilled in a while, I've only been doing timed sections so maybe that could help with those couple extra points?

Yes, absolutely drill. For a lot (if not most) people, drilling is by far the most efficient way to improve performance on individual sections.
That said, it sounds like you are definitely on track to reach your target score in February. Just keep at it!




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