December 2013 LSAT Study Group

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby pancho » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:03 pm

mindarmed wrote:PMT & armed retaking
PMT
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -2
RC: -0

Raw: 97
Scaled: 180

armed
LR1: -1
LG: -0
LR2: -0
RC: -8

Raw: 91
Scaled: 171

Still need to work on RC for me. PMT is chugging right a long just missed a couple of LRs


Retaking a 177 is impressive. Are you going to cancel if you don't feel everything is perfect or does a potentially lower score not bother you?

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby mindarmed » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:13 pm

pancho wrote:
mindarmed wrote:PMT & armed retaking
PMT
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -2
RC: -0

Raw: 97
Scaled: 180

armed
LR1: -1
LG: -0
LR2: -0
RC: -8

Raw: 91
Scaled: 171

Still need to work on RC for me. PMT is chugging right a long just missed a couple of LRs


Retaking a 177 is impressive. Are you going to cancel if you don't feel everything is perfect or does a potentially lower score not bother you?


Doesn't bother me, I'm doing it for the academic challenge to see if I can get a 180. Plus PMT is my homie so I wanna help out with the retake :D

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dosto » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:14 pm

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby mindarmed » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:15 pm

dosto5 wrote:
mindarmed wrote:
pancho wrote:
mindarmed wrote:PMT & armed retaking
PMT
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -2
RC: -0

Raw: 97
Scaled: 180

armed
LR1: -1
LG: -0
LR2: -0
RC: -8

Raw: 91
Scaled: 171

Still need to work on RC for me. PMT is chugging right a long just missed a couple of LRs


Retaking a 177 is impressive. Are you going to cancel if you don't feel everything is perfect or does a potentially lower score not bother you?


Doesn't bother me, I'm doing it for the academic challenge to see if I can get a 180. Plus PMT is my homie so I wanna help out with the retake :D


Armed at this point do you still have fresh new PTs or are you having to retake them?


Retaking most of them. We did 52 tonight. I think we're gonna do 52-70 leading up to December. I'll also be doing RC drilling intermittently from the LSAT Trainer and all my experimental sections will be RC.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dosto » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:20 pm

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby mindarmed » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:23 pm

dosto5 wrote:
mindarmed wrote:
dosto5 wrote:
Armed at this point do you still have fresh new PTs or are you having to retake them?


Retaking most of them. We did 52 tonight. I think we're gonna do 52-70 leading up to December. I'll also be doing RC drilling intermittently from the LSAT Trainer and all my experimental sections will be RC.


A 180 on 52 is nuts (well, on any PT really). And drilling RC + RC exp seems like a good idea. My October score hangs on my RC performance which is not something I feel good about but who knows.


Ya I will be applying the LSAT Trainer's methods. I have difficulty in synthesizing large amounts of information within the LSAT time constraints. I will also be summarizing a couple articles I read in the Journal each morning to try to practice.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby jk148706 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:48 pm

PTs start up again tomorrow. Ugh.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby vicpin5190 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:01 pm

Long day of studying, first half of the day drilled Must Be True's (about 30, 10 1's, 10 2's, 5 3's, 5 4's) and about 20 Necessary Assumptions (10 3's and 10 4's). That was from 12 to 4. Took 3 hours off to go for a run (i've slacked off and as a former college runner this has been the biggest sacrifice i've made for this exam) and grab some dinner, and then went ahead and tackled PT 61. Scored 166, my highest PT to date. Started off rocky with a -9 on RC's, but then went -4 on LR#1, -3 on LG's, and -1 on LR#2 (!!!!!!). Huge improvement in LR, unfortunately the RC threw me off but so happy about this result thus far, it's the performance I needed to finally validate my effort with reasoning.

Going to take a break and then spend about an hour today, and probably an hour during lunch tomorrow, for reviewing my PT.

But man, huge weight off my shoulder, hopefully i can bust out another big jump in 6 weeks. I think a big thing for me though this weekend is i backed off a little friday and saturday which made me feel fresher, per say. Definitely need some work to establish more consistency on RC since i fluctuated to much but i feel a lot better going forward. phew.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Bosh » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:04 pm

Guys i have a question, when you PT or drill questions by type in LR, how do you review after the blind review? Do you write down an explanation for the questions you got wrong or go over the whole thing and write down an explanation for each. Or you talk yourself through the question instead of writing/typing an explanation.

I have been writing down the question i got wrong and talking myself through the ones i had right and this takes me like a whole day to do. I just don't feel like i am being efficient because i want to finish the Manhattan LR but this process slows me down. I hope someone could give me an efficient process that has been helpful to them.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby vicpin5190 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:13 pm

Bosh wrote:Guys i have a question, when you PT or drill questions by type in LR, how do you review after the blind review? Do you write down an explanation for the questions you got wrong or go over the whole thing and write down an explanation for each. Or you talk yourself through the question instead of writing/typing an explanation.

I have been writing down the question i got wrong and talking myself through the ones i had right and this takes me like a whole day to do. I just don't feel like i am being efficient because i want to finish the Manhattan LR but this process slows me down. I hope someone could give me an efficient process that has been helpful to them.


I tend not to blind review with drilling, instead spending as much time as i need to get the answer right. Whenever i blind review with PTs or sections though i'll do the section, then go back and redo anything i marked as needing to go over again, and then FINALLY afterward i write an explanation for each answer for the questions i got wrong. It's not the most efficient i guess, but its thorough.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dosto » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:56 am

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby HeavenBeyond » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:08 pm

Can somebody link me to the LSAT Trainer?

Sorry, not familiar with who publishes it.

Thanks,

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ZVBXRPL » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:14 pm

HeavenBeyond wrote:Can somebody link me to the LSAT Trainer?

Sorry, not familiar with who publishes it.

Thanks,

+1 but forv the RC referenced

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Cambridge LSAT » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:24 pm

HeavenBeyond wrote:Can somebody link me to the LSAT Trainer?

Sorry, not familiar with who publishes it.

Thanks,

The LSAT Trainer

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Dr. Dre » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:11 pm

54 days brothers

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby tofuspeedstar » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:57 pm

Finished lesson 1 last night w/ LSAT trainer. I feel relevance in my life again now that I'm studying for something.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Erickt26 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:07 pm

During blind review, do you also do the games that you did not have time to finish as well as the RC passages that you did not get to?

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby tofuspeedstar » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:10 pm

Erickt26 wrote:During blind review, do you also do the games that you did not have time to finish as well as the RC passages that you did not get to?


I do them, but I don't count them toward my score.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Erickt26 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:11 pm

When you say you don't count them toward your score, you are referring to your Blind Review Score right?

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby tofuspeedstar » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:13 pm

Erickt26 wrote:When you say you don't count them toward your score, you are referring to your Blind Review Score right?



Huh?

When I blind review, I do questions I didn't finish during the blind review. When i actually grade my PT I don't count the ones I did in BR toward my raw score. But usually there's only 1-2 I leave blank on the exam at this point.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Erickt26 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:17 pm

Ok. I see. Usually you are suppose to calculate two score under Blind Review. The first you score without blind review and the second with your blind review(includes changed answers and question that you did not have time to complete). This in turn gives you an accurate look at the questions that you could have gotten right had you managed your time better, and the potential score you could have gotten.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Nolegirl850 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:18 pm

Is there anyone in the Tallahassee Florida area interested in meeting up? I'm taking the TestMasters live course. I'm trying to find a person or people to meet up with for a few hours on weekdays and longer hours on the weekend. I'm not necessarily looking for a tutor or to be a tutor.However, if someone was taking the course that might be a little more helpful. If you are taking the course either the live version or online and you are not in Tallahassee, we can Skype. I will find out if this is legal first. If you are local and you Are not taking the course, I'm stilling willing to meet up during those times for independent studying and accountability. Send me a message if interested.


Monday -Thursday after 7-11(flexible)
Friday -after 7-until(flexible)
Saturday -anytime
Sunday -after 3-11(flexible)

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby tofuspeedstar » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:27 pm

Erickt26 wrote:Ok. I see. Usually you are suppose to calculate two score under Blind Review. The first you score without blind review and the second with your blind review(includes changed answers and question that you did not have time to complete). This in turn gives you an accurate look at the questions that you could have gotten right had you managed your time better, and the potential score you could have gotten.



Ahh gotcha. I guess I do my BR a bit differently. I just sort of go through and see what looks attractive and what doesn't.. then I do a review w/ the key and just grade that way. i don't change my answers during BR but I star next to answers I think are more attractive than what I picked and list why.

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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby mindarmed » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:05 pm

armed PT 53

LR 1: -0
LG: -0
LR 2: -2 (21, 24)
RC: -0

Raw: 98
Scaled: 180

Saving spot for when PMT takes later tn. Next test will be PT 54 Saturday afternoon, too busy w. midterms this week to PT more.
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Re: December 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:08 pm

I'm in desperate need for some advice. I'm PTing in the low 160s and it's been like a month and a half and I can't get to the mid/high-160s. I've drilled SO much LR but I still get about 5 wrong per section. However, when I'm doing blind review or just drilling level 4 LR questions, I get about 90% of the questions right. I'd say I have a pretty decent grasp of question types and how to approach them so the problem seems to be when I'm actually taking the test-- I just can't execute. Any suggestions/recs from personal experience? I'm thinking of taking like a week of PTing, like 5 tests in a row (one per day) to see if it helps with my stamina. Most PTs I've taken have been about a week apart. Thanks in advance for any help.
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