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Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:00 pm
by justwhisper
let me clarify: like I mean they are too generic. sure they may get you to a 160 but I don't see a 170 happening with their methods.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:52 pm
by allison34363
justwhisper wrote:
Scythron wrote:
allison34363 wrote:
esperanzax wrote:I took a Kaplan course and it was the biggest waste of money EVER. I wish I could get it back..Grrr :evil:


tls is known for kaplan hating. I honestly don't see what is so bad about their course.


Their teaching methods are mediocre but their course books (Mastery, Pacing, Endurance) are nothing short of phenomenal.


LSAT prep needs to be pretty custom tailored to the person's strengths and weaknesses and this is why courses like these fail horribly.


This forum is the exception. Sure many here can just learn the strategies themselves and so they criticize prep courses, but in reality prep courses help a lot of people get the score they need, even if it isn't a 180.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:54 am
by justwhisper
They are way too expensive too. $1500??? I think people just take their diagnostic and absolutely freak out because they score so low. If they just devoted some time to self study and learning the test then they could score high without the course.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:14 pm
by mickeymouse4509
60 days left, who is considering rescheduling?

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:32 pm
by ag12
I would take a course solely for the simulated practice tests. I self studied and improved my score dramatically, but had trouble simulating testing conditions. I think this was a big reason I scored quite a bit lower than my average on practice tests.

Also, to address an earlier post, I have a friend who cold tested at 162 and hit 180 on the real thing.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:22 pm
by goodolgil
ag12 wrote:I would take a course solely for the simulated practice tests. I self studied and improved my score dramatically, but had trouble simulating testing conditions. I think this was a big reason I scored quite a bit lower than my average on practice tests.

Also, to address an earlier post, I have a friend who cold tested at 162 and hit 180 on the real thing.


Well one good thing about Kaplan is that since there are so many centers (at least around here) and so many classes, you can go to any class you want (just call and ask for a class scheduled for a test and tell them you want go--you can do this at any Kaplan center). I'm currently doing a PT every week, and since I'm in Kaplan they are all going to be proctored five section tests. This (along with fresh copies of all the books) is the only reason I took them up and their guarantee and repeated the course (I don't go to any of the classes).

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:43 am
by justwhisper
goodolgil wrote:
ag12 wrote:I would take a course solely for the simulated practice tests. I self studied and improved my score dramatically, but had trouble simulating testing conditions. I think this was a big reason I scored quite a bit lower than my average on practice tests.

Also, to address an earlier post, I have a friend who cold tested at 162 and hit 180 on the real thing.


This (along with fresh copies of all the books) is the only reason I took them up and their guarantee and repeated the course (I don't go to any of the classes).


That is such a great guarantee. If their methods fail you the first time, then feel free to use them again the second time no charge!

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:13 pm
by goodolgil
justwhisper wrote:
goodolgil wrote:
ag12 wrote:I would take a course solely for the simulated practice tests. I self studied and improved my score dramatically, but had trouble simulating testing conditions. I think this was a big reason I scored quite a bit lower than my average on practice tests.

Also, to address an earlier post, I have a friend who cold tested at 162 and hit 180 on the real thing.


This (along with fresh copies of all the books) is the only reason I took them up and their guarantee and repeated the course (I don't go to any of the classes).


That is such a great guarantee. If their methods fail you the first time, then feel free to use them again the second time no charge!


I'm talking about the complete set of all preptest questions.

Most other companies do the same thing, but still make you pay for the books. So Kaplan wins out there.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:43 am
by justwhisper
goodolgil wrote:
justwhisper wrote:
goodolgil wrote:
ag12 wrote:I would take a course solely for the simulated practice tests. I self studied and improved my score dramatically, but had trouble simulating testing conditions. I think this was a big reason I scored quite a bit lower than my average on practice tests.

Also, to address an earlier post, I have a friend who cold tested at 162 and hit 180 on the real thing.


This (along with fresh copies of all the books) is the only reason I took them up and their guarantee and repeated the course (I don't go to any of the classes).


That is such a great guarantee. If their methods fail you the first time, then feel free to use them again the second time no charge!


I'm talking about the complete set of all preptest questions.

Most other companies do the same thing, but still make you pay for the books. So Kaplan wins out there.


You realize you can buy all the preptests from lsac for a fraction of the cost?

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:54 am
by goodolgil
How do you take a fraction of $0?

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:05 pm
by EmVan
goodolgil wrote:How do you take a fraction of $0?


I think he meant that buying the PTs from LSAC cost a fraction of the amount that you pay to register for the prep course. The books are "free" in so much as you've pretty much already paid for them trough the course fee, no?

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:09 pm
by billyez
What's great about Kaplan, though, is how well-organized all those questions are. Sure, you can buy all the PT's and save hundreds of dollars, but having books that are tailored to fixing any problem you have with a specific type of question is awesome. Ranking the difficulty, explaining the answers, etc.

If I had to pay for my Kaplan class, I wouldn't have taken it. That price tag is just way too much, but those books are amazing.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:23 pm
by philip.platt
mickeymouse4509 wrote:60 days left, who is considering rescheduling?


is rescheduling free?

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:24 pm
by GodFatherPENNington
thanks

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:26 pm
by goodolgil
EmVan wrote:
goodolgil wrote:How do you take a fraction of $0?


I think he meant that buying the PTs from LSAC cost a fraction of the amount that you pay to register for the prep course. The books are "free" in so much as you've pretty much already paid for them trough the course fee, no?


yes, but I already made it clear that I wasn't terribly happy with the course and the only reason I repeated was for the books.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:10 pm
by justwhisper
goodolgil wrote:
EmVan wrote:
goodolgil wrote:How do you take a fraction of $0?


I think he meant that buying the PTs from LSAC cost a fraction of the amount that you pay to register for the prep course. The books are "free" in so much as you've pretty much already paid for them trough the course fee, no?


yes, but I already made it clear that I wasn't terribly happy with the course and the only reason I repeated was for the books.


I'm not sure that I understand your point... Kaplan does not make you return your coursebooks...

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:07 pm
by Tangerine Gleam
Reschedule? If anything, I wish the LSAT was sooner!

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:04 pm
by goodolgil
justwhisper wrote:
goodolgil wrote:
EmVan wrote:
goodolgil wrote:How do you take a fraction of $0?


I think he meant that buying the PTs from LSAC cost a fraction of the amount that you pay to register for the prep course. The books are "free" in so much as you've pretty much already paid for them trough the course fee, no?


yes, but I already made it clear that I wasn't terribly happy with the course and the only reason I repeated was for the books.


I'm not sure that I understand your point... Kaplan does not make you return your coursebooks...


The point is they send you brand new ones for free. That's why I repeated. And to take as many proctored tests as I want (could take two or three a week if I wanted).

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:27 am
by justwhisper
Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:53 pm
by zwanzig
Excellent pointers. I shall give 'em a try.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:17 am
by mickeymouse4509
Tangerine Gleam wrote:Reschedule? If anything, I wish the LSAT was sooner!


You must be kicking butt on your preptests

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:53 am
by justwhisper
Postponing if you are not ready will save you a world of pain.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:33 pm
by mickeymouse4509
justwhisper wrote:Postponing if you are not ready will save you a world of pain.


Only if you are applying to T14 schools like I intend to. Ones that still average multiple LSAT scores.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:58 pm
by justwhisper
Mall_cop$ wrote:
justwhisper wrote:Postponing if you are not ready will save you a world of pain.


Why? All but the top school take the highest.


Yes but schools will still see all of your scores... Not to mention the pain you will experience when waiting for your score to come back in only to find that it's a 150, lol.... and the studying time you wasted waiting for your score to come back... and the mental devastation only getting a 150 will cause you the next time around.

Re: How I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:41 am
by mickeymouse4509
I plan to take the test and then cancel if I feel it didn't go well. Not buying the postponing method as I think just taking the real thing will be good practice in itself.