160 Curve

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160 Curve

Postby osubucknut » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:35 pm

I've seen some guesses for the 170 curve, would anyone like to guess what the 160 curve will be?

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby ManoftheHour » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:51 pm

160 is TTT, which is why no one's bothered to bring it up. I'm guessing it'd probably be somewhere from -24 to -27 though.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby osubucknut » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:33 pm

Okay.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby mindarmed » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:22 pm

dont go to law school if you're aiming for a 160. HTH

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby osubucknut » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:50 pm

Thanks.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby Dog » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:29 am

Probably -25 to -27 if recent years are any indication and the 170 curve is -10.

Anything less than 170 is really just the automatic retake curve for me. If you can get a 160 and haven't exhausted every prep method possible (and aren't very well connected/well off), I'd recommend shooting for a higher score.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby Trajectory » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:07 am

OP were you shooting for a 160? Is it your target score?

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby osubucknut » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:41 pm

No, but after what I'm anticipating to be a disastrous performance, I'm starting to get nervous.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby Nova » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:44 pm

Better start getting ready for October

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby osubucknut » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:51 pm

When would you guys recommend starting again? I was thinking about waiting until the scores are released then hitting it hard.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby Nova » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:57 pm

A solid 3 months should be good

Starting sooner wouldnt hurt though

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby TheMostDangerousLG » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:41 am

osubucknut wrote:When would you guys recommend starting again? I was thinking about waiting until the scores are released then hitting it hard.


No. If you aimed for 160, you need to start right away. The only reason people wait until they get their scores back is because they think they might not need to retake, and wait for the score to let confirm or disconfirm that belief. You know you need to retake. Start studying now.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby stillwater » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:45 am

yeah echoing the sentiment that 160 is TTT. you needa get on that horse boy and ride it, RIDE IT because you need those fat schollys and biglaw chances.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby Nova » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:00 am

TheMostDangerousLG wrote: Start studying now.

Yeah, youre right.

OP likely needs as much time as possible

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby osubucknut » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:05 am

Thanks and I will get on it right away. To clear the misunderstanding though, my goal wasn't to get a 160 and I was pting much higher than a 160, but due to what I feel was a subpar test I'm just curious.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby UnderrateOverachieve » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:20 am

Gotta love that TLS mentality. Less than a 170 and a scholarship to a top 25 school and you are a retard who will never get a job. This has to be one of the most negative communities I have ever seen.

Not to burst the elitist bubble, but there are actually successful attorneys that scored lower than a 165 on the LSAT and had a sub 3.5 GPA. Based on sheer numbers alone, I would wager more make up that region than not.

I understand warning people of the dangers of going to truly pitiful institutions, but this notion of a 3.5/170 being required to even consider going to law school is fucking horrendous.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby Clearly » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:59 am

UnderrateOverachieve wrote:Gotta love that TLS mentality. Less than a 170 and a scholarship to a top 25 school and you are a retard who will never get a job. This has to be one of the most negative communities I have ever seen.

Not to burst the elitist bubble, but there are actually successful attorneys that scored lower than a 165 on the LSAT and had a sub 3.5 GPA. Based on sheer numbers alone, I would wager more make up that region than not.
Keep in mind, these people payed 5,000$ a year, not 50k a year for the education, and had an economy that meant plenty of jobs for everyone...>You really cant compare 2012 applicants to other eras of applications.
I understand warning people of the dangers of going to truly pitiful institutions, but this notion of a 3.5/170 being required to even consider going to law school is fucking horrendous.


And I agree, that we are too negative, so I'm not even disagreeing with you. Just didn't like comparing boomers era to our era. They had bad numbers and got jobs, but clearly in 2012 we are not going to be so lucky.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby nyjets2090 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:26 am

UnderrateOverachieve wrote:Gotta love that TLS mentality. Less than a 170 and a scholarship to a top 25 school and you are a retard who will never get a job. This has to be one of the most negative communities I have ever seen.

Not to burst the elitist bubble, but there are actually successful attorneys that scored lower than a 165 on the LSAT and had a sub 3.5 GPA. Based on sheer numbers alone, I would wager more make up that region than not.

I understand warning people of the dangers of going to truly pitiful institutions, but this notion of a 3.5/170 being required to even consider going to law school is fucking horrendous.



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Yeah, SOME attorneys who did not go to tier 1 schools. Particularly those who went to tier 2 or lower tier 1 schools that dominate their home market. Florida can get you a decent job in Florida, Maryland in MD, etc. Still those people probably won't make biglaw and should still attend only in-state with a decent scholarship. The fact is there are alot of people that think taking out loans for the full COA at a tier 2 school is a good decision because "I'll get biglaw and pay it off." There's also people who go to LS and aren't sure they want to be a lawyer, which is another huge mistake. The fact is, while there are people who might be better off attending a lower ranked school with $$ over a T14, most people who choose the option of a lower ranked school are expecting the same career choice as T14 grads. They will be sorely disappointed in 3 years and they'll have 200K in debt.

For what it's worth, I'm glad I got the advice to retake and take CC courses to boost my GPA.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby 052220151 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:58 am

UnderrateOverachieve wrote:Gotta love that TLS mentality. Less than a 170 and a scholarship to a top 25 school and you are a retard who will never get a job. This has to be one of the most negative communities I have ever seen.

Not to burst the elitist bubble, but there are actually successful attorneys that scored lower than a 165 on the LSAT and had a sub 3.5 GPA. Based on sheer numbers alone, I would wager more make up that region than not.

I understand warning people of the dangers of going to truly pitiful institutions, but this notion of a 3.5/170 being required to even consider going to law school is fucking horrendous.


SICK strawman bro!

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby UnderrateOverachieve » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:13 pm

deputydog wrote:
UnderrateOverachieve wrote:Gotta love that TLS mentality. Less than a 170 and a scholarship to a top 25 school and you are a retard who will never get a job. This has to be one of the most negative communities I have ever seen.

Not to burst the elitist bubble, but there are actually successful attorneys that scored lower than a 165 on the LSAT and had a sub 3.5 GPA. Based on sheer numbers alone, I would wager more make up that region than not.

I understand warning people of the dangers of going to truly pitiful institutions, but this notion of a 3.5/170 being required to even consider going to law school is fucking horrendous.


SICK strawman bro!


Sick job not adding anything to the conversation except more negativity bro! So many of the people on here seem like they are so high and mighty, but if I ran into them at a Law Review event they would be in the corner hugging their drink.

I understand being helpful. Many people I have seen on here truly just do not have their heads on straight, but that doesn't give you a license to be a complete asshole.

I had realllly low stats, 3.0/160, definitely what you guys call the special snow flake. But hey I was able to get some of school at a T70 paid for and I am in the top 15% and enjoying myself. It frightens me to think what would have happened if I listened to many of the people on this board.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby NYstate » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:20 pm

UnderrateOverachieve wrote:
deputydog wrote:
UnderrateOverachieve wrote:Gotta love that TLS mentality. Less than a 170 and a scholarship to a top 25 school and you are a retard who will never get a job. This has to be one of the most negative communities I have ever seen.

Not to burst the elitist bubble, but there are actually successful attorneys that scored lower than a 165 on the LSAT and had a sub 3.5 GPA. Based on sheer numbers alone, I would wager more make up that region than not.

I understand warning people of the dangers of going to truly pitiful institutions, but this notion of a 3.5/170 being required to even consider going to law school is fucking horrendous.


SICK strawman bro!


Sick job not adding anything to the conversation except more negativity bro! So many of the people on here seem like they are so high and mighty, but if I ran into them at a Law Review event they would be in the corner hugging their drink.

I understand being helpful. Many people I have seen on here truly just do not have their heads on straight, but that doesn't give you a license to be a complete asshole.

I had realllly low stats, 3.0/160, definitely what you guys call the special snow flake. But hey I was able to get some of school at a T70 paid for and I am in the top 15% and enjoying myself. It frightens me to think what would have happened if I listened to many of the people on this board.



I'm curious. What advice did you get? I think so much of the push to go to a top school is based on the need to get a biglaw job to service massive debt. And, that you can't count on being the top of your class grade wise, so going to a higher ranked school gives you a better chance at a job.

What are your job prospects generally from your school if you don't mind sharing?

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby meanmugger » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:47 pm

deputydog wrote:
UnderrateOverachieve wrote:Gotta love that TLS mentality. Less than a 170 and a scholarship to a top 25 school and you are a retard who will never get a job. This has to be one of the most negative communities I have ever seen.

Not to burst the elitist bubble, but there are actually successful attorneys that scored lower than a 165 on the LSAT and had a sub 3.5 GPA. Based on sheer numbers alone, I would wager more make up that region than not.

I understand warning people of the dangers of going to truly pitiful institutions, but this notion of a 3.5/170 being required to even consider going to law school is fucking horrendous.


SICK strawman bro!


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Re: 160 Curve

Postby UnderrateOverachieve » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:04 pm

Haha, I will let this thread die. I would love to see into the lives of some of you guys. I can see you getting home from an awkward day of class and taking out your frustration on the internet.

I hope your good grades at a top law school can fill the void in your soul.

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Re: 160 Curve

Postby Otunga » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:56 pm

Great. More distortions and mischaracterizations.




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