The Official June 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby Straw_Mandible » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:59 am

Tyr wrote:Since September for June? Maybe you posted this already, but where did you begin and what are you PTing at now?


Haha yes, that's not crazy, right? Many people ITT (jaylawyer included) have been at it since June '13, if I understand correctly. Anyway, my diagnostic (not that it matters much) was a 156, flexible on time. No idea where I'm at right now, since I have not started PTing yet, but my drills have shown considerable improvement. I -0'd a few LR sections, and I'm around -4 level in RC. LG is a work in progress. Anyway, I'm glad we're all in this together. Looking forward to making big gains in the coming 170 days!

(Edit for quote fail.)

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby eagleslive » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:29 am

I am a veteran reader of TLS and making my first post.

I started studying two days ago for the June 2014 LSAT. However, the test is now my #1 priority and I'm fighting in the trenches four hours a day for a 180 from here until showtime. Let's get the mental troops prepared for combat. At this point, my mindset is HYS or bust.

(If anybody wants a highly ambitious digital study partner PM me.)

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:04 pm

guys when drilling reading comprehension, i find that theres usually 1-2 questions that take up a ton of my time and get through the other ones relatively quickly. these are typically the ones I get wrong as well - anyone else had this problem and know the aid? is the best I can do just review the passage afterward and make sure that I know why its right / wrong ?

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:24 pm

Ladies and Gentleman,

I've been going through the 10 More Actual Preptest book or whatever its called (PT 19-28)

and I've been doing everything untimed.

I think there is something very valuable to be learned going through the test in this way.

You'll obviously learn this when you really start doing TIMED test, but it's interesting to see early on how the format goes.

I know when to expect a parallel reasoning question. I know where a necessary assumption question will be. I know roughly which question will be one I will have to skip. That's something the Cambridge packet will not offer.

Don't get misled though. Cambridge packets are one of the top tools to succeed.

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:31 pm

eagleslive wrote:I am a veteran reader of TLS and making my first post.

I started studying two days ago for the June 2014 LSAT. However, the test is now my #1 priority and I'm fighting in the trenches four hours a day for a 180 from here until showtime. Let's get the mental troops prepared for combat. At this point, my mindset is HYS or bust.

(If anybody wants a highly ambitious digital study partner PM me.)



Good to have you here, sir. I'm active-duty Navy. Stationed over in Diego Garcia if you've heard of it. Glad to hear you have that HYS or bust mentality, but just know there are plenty of great schools out there.

Anyways, I know you'll succeed. That military mentality will stop at nothing until it reaches its goal.

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby eagleslive » Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:42 am

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:33 am

PT 22 untimed

RC -9
LR -4
LG -2
LR -7

Comes out to a 163.

This should have been a 170+

There is absolutely no reason to get a LG question wrong and absolutely no reason to get a RC question wrong when you have all the time in the world to answer a question.

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:14 am

Just spent the last few hours reading through the October Waiting Thread.

I can't wait until game day! Though the wait after is going to blow.

I really hope we all do well. I really hope I can manage a 170+

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:19 am

But I'm not just going to hope...

I shall work my ass off

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:02 am

Anybody have a special insight into how to review questions you missed.

My typical routine is as follows...

"oh shit, that makes a lot more sense."

and then I move on to the next one

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:06 am

louierodriguez wrote:Ladies and Gentleman,

I've been going through the 10 More Actual Preptest book or whatever its called (PT 19-28)

and I've been doing everything untimed.

I think there is something very valuable to be learned going through the test in this way.

You'll obviously learn this when you really start doing TIMED test, but it's interesting to see early on how the format goes.

I know when to expect a parallel reasoning question. I know where a necessary assumption question will be. I know roughly which question will be one I will have to skip. That's something the Cambridge packet will not offer.

Don't get misled though. Cambridge packets are one of the top tools to succeed.


I agree Louie R, but at the same time I think you must drill cambridge to death for them to have full effectiveness.

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:50 am

When dealing with flaws/SA/NA/other question types that include conditional statements, do you guys diagram them? Right now I diagram all of them because if I don't, I fall for the following fallacy:

X----->Y
Y
Therefore X

When LSAC throws a bunch of confusing terms out there and I try and track it all in my head, I make mistakes, such as falling for the previously stated fallacy. But when I write down the diagram of the conditional, I never get the sufficient and necessary confused.

Obviously this hinges on not confusing Al//Some/Most.

Do you think after intense drilling I'll be able to get the questions right without diagramming? (I am in the very beginning of my prep and haven't even drilled yet; going through books now). Or is diagramming all questions with conditionals totally fine forever?

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby Straw_Mandible » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:40 pm

Louis: I think eventually conditional logic can and should become second nature, and you will not have to write everything out. But if you're finding it tough to keep the valid inferences in your head right now, the diagramming should help solidify those instincts.

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:03 pm

My LSAT TRAINER has arrived!!!!

Merry Christmas to you all!

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:18 pm

but wait... it uses material from 52 to 68...

I thought I was going to use these tests as full pts?

What should I do?

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby famousblueraincoat » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:15 am

louierodriguez wrote:but wait... it uses material from 52 to 68...

I thought I was going to use these tests as full pts?

What should I do?


Happy Holidays! I'd recommend following one of the study schedules on the book's website. Just google the book's name and it should pop up. On the one I'm using PT 52 is used as a diagnostic and then again for some drilling. I think the author intended for you to see some of the material more than once.

You can always buy more tests if you'd like some fresh material for full PTs.

Good luck studying! Sending good vibes your way :P ~~~~~~~>

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:41 am

I already have the study guide off the website.

famousblueraincoat wrote:I think the author intended for you to see some of the material more than once.


If true, then this answers my question.

Thanks.

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby alexrodriguez » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:42 am

go to the gym

don't forget to take care of your body

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:08 pm

when doing LR section I am stuck between 19-21 range getting that number correct. any one have advice to improve? I guess I'll just keep reviewing long answers, been stuck here for a while though.

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:32 pm

jaylawyer09 wrote:
flash21 wrote:when doing LR section I am stuck between 19-21 range getting that number correct. any one have advice to improve? I guess I'll just keep reviewing long answers, been stuck here for a while though.


How do you know? have you been drilling LR sections? - I have no way of knowing how many I get wrong a section bc I am drilling cambridge.


yeah I will do some sections sometimes, only from pt below 50. when will you do a section ? i will be interested to see how you do

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Re: The Official June 2014 Study Group

Postby WaltGrace83 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:53 pm

Really nice feeling right now. I was reading a lesson in the Trainer, doing some drills, and taking notes on them during review. I look down at my clock and see I have been sitting in the library for 3 hours without having a break. I was thinking to myself that I am probably getting close towards my 1.5 hour break soon. :lol: I get lost in the studying mindset.




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