One more question for lsat instructors

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby ScottRiqui » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:29 pm

natashka85 wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:
natashka85 wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:"Great majority" doesn't have a strict definition, but it might help to remember that "great" is referring to the relative size of the group within the whole, not the actual number itself.

There are 143 million women in the U.S., which is a great number, but it's only a very slight majority (50.9%) compared to the number of men. Likewise, the "great majority" (~98%) of U.S. Presidents have been white males, even though there have only been 43 of them.

1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


Case 1) from you example isn't a majority, it's a plurality.
Case 2) isn't any kind of a majority at all.

When you're talking about a population 'X':

"None of X" means zero percent.
"Some of X" means a percentage greater than zero (could be as high as 100%, although it's not commonly used that way)
"Majority of X" or "Most of X" means some percentage greater than 50%.

"Great majority", "vast majority", or "overwhelming majority" don't have strict definitions, other than the fact that they are majorities (greater than 50%). Personally, I wouldn't use "great majority" unless the majority was more than 80% of the population, and I would save "vast" and "overwhelming" for cases where the majority is greater than 95% of the population.

I understand what u mean,but when we say a great majority of girls we don``t know a great majority of what number which makes me conclude that it could be most of them but doesn`t have to be most of them.


Again, the "great" in "great majority" doesn't depend at all on how large the total population is. See my earlier example about how many women are in the U.S. - 143 million is a great number, but it's barely a majority at all (50.9%).

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby Shmoopy » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:29 pm

natashka85 wrote:1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


How is 30% a "slight majority" here? You clearly don't know what the word majority means.

Congrats on upping your syntax from "retarded toddler learning English as a second language" to "regular dumbass." Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't type like a normal person.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:32 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:"Great majority" doesn't have a strict definition, but it might help to remember that "great" is referring to the relative size of the group within the whole, not the actual number itself.

There are 143 million women in the U.S., which is a great number, but it's only a very slight majority (50.9%) compared to the number of men. Likewise, the "great majority" (~98%) of U.S. Presidents have been white males, even though there have only been 43 of them.

I think we both are on the same page.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:33 pm

Shmoopy wrote:
natashka85 wrote:1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


How is 30% a "slight majority" here? You clearly don't know what the word majority means.

Congrats on upping your syntax from "retarded toddler learning English as a second language" to "regular dumbass." Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't type like a normal person.

30 percent could be a great majority number ,use your brain muscles ,dude

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:34 pm

Shmoopy wrote:
natashka85 wrote:1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


How is 30% a "slight majority" here? You clearly don't know what the word majority means.

Congrats on upping your syntax from "retarded toddler learning English as a second language" to "regular dumbass." Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't type like a normal person.


Dude she went to Harvard and is taking LSAT tips from someone who wrote a 170. I don't know ,about you u, but I'm definitely ,taking ,,her seriously.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby ScottRiqui » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:37 pm

natashka85 wrote:
Shmoopy wrote:
natashka85 wrote:1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


How is 30% a "slight majority" here? You clearly don't know what the word majority means.

Congrats on upping your syntax from "retarded toddler learning English as a second language" to "regular dumbass." Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't type like a normal person.

30 percent could be a great majority number ,use your brain muscles ,dude


No, it can't. The very definition of "majority" explicitly states that a majority group must make up more than 50% of the total population.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:37 pm

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Shmoopy wrote:
natashka85 wrote:1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


How is 30% a "slight majority" here? You clearly don't know what the word majority means.

Congrats on upping your syntax from "retarded toddler learning English as a second language" to "regular dumbass." Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't type like a normal person.


Dude she went to Harvard and is taking LSAT tips from someone who wrote a 170. I don't know ,about you u, but I'm definitely ,taking ,,her seriously.

U never say someone who wrote a 170 ,u say someone who got a 170.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:37 pm

natashka85 wrote:30 percent could be a great majority number ,use your brain muscles ,dude

No, it can't. 30% cannot be a majority, and therefore cannot be a great majority.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:38 pm

natashka85 wrote:
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Shmoopy wrote:
natashka85 wrote:1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


How is 30% a "slight majority" here? You clearly don't know what the word majority means.

Congrats on upping your syntax from "retarded toddler learning English as a second language" to "regular dumbass." Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't type like a normal person.


Dude she went to Harvard and is taking LSAT tips from someone who wrote a 170. I don't know ,about you u, but I'm definitely ,taking ,,her seriously.

U never say someone who wrote a 170 ,u say someone who got a 170.


Dats achully exac,ly wat people ,say, look around,,.!?

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:39 pm

ScottRiqui wrote:
natashka85 wrote:
Shmoopy wrote:
natashka85 wrote:1)Great majority of americans like Obama.(40 percent)
2)Slight majority hates him 30 percent
3)30 percent is neutral doesn`t feel anything about him
So in this scenario great majority doesn`t have to be most of the people which includes 50 plus 1.
That`s where u are wrong.


How is 30% a "slight majority" here? You clearly don't know what the word majority means.

Congrats on upping your syntax from "retarded toddler learning English as a second language" to "regular dumbass." Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't type like a normal person.

30 percent could be a great majority number ,use your brain muscles ,dude


No, it can't. The very definition of "majority" explicitly states that a majority group must make up more than 50% of the total population.

slight majority and great majority and majority are not the same thing,u need to make a distinction between these things.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby Merylian » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:41 pm

Is no one going to call troll yet? I think I will. (4.0 Harvard UG claim + broken English) x (Utter refusal to acknowledge the definition of majority + temper tantrum style hostility) = home alone and bored on New Years Eve. Five pages in, this can not possibly be a real argument anymore.

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Postby CardozoLaw09 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:43 pm

*basically what poster above me said*
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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:43 pm

natashka85 wrote:slight majority and great majority and majority are not the same thing,u need to make a distinction between these things.

Slight majority and great majority are subsets of majority. 50.01% is a slight majority, whereas 90% is a great majority. Anything less than 50% is not a majority, a slight majority, or a great majority

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:44 pm

Merylian wrote:Is no one going to call troll yet? I think I will. (4.0 Harvard UG claim + broken English) x (Utter refusal to acknowledge the definition of majority + temper tantrum style hostility) = home alone and bored on New Years Eve. Five pages in, this can not possibly be a real argument anymore.

Nah, having looked at past posts, this is just an idiot. I don't believe the Harvard 4.0 claim, and think that was the kind of honest reporting that her idol, dave hall, taught her.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:49 pm

dingbat wrote:
Merylian wrote:Is no one going to call troll yet? I think I will. (4.0 Harvard UG claim + broken English) x (Utter refusal to acknowledge the definition of majority + temper tantrum style hostility) = home alone and bored on New Years Eve. Five pages in, this can not possibly be a real argument anymore.

Nah, having looked at past posts, this is just an idiot. I don't believe the Harvard 4.0 claim, and think that was the kind of honest reporting that her idol, dave hall, taught her.

Your are stupid,so go and learn Lsat ,numbers and percentages,otherwise someone will kick your ass in court,majority of what (number) 5,4,3(5 is a majority compared to 4,4 is a majority compared to 3 ) out of 10.So you would better not mix these things.

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Postby suralin » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:51 pm

dingbat wrote:
natashka85 wrote:slight majority and great majority and majority are not the same thing,u need to make a distinction between these things.

Slight majority and great majority are subsets of majority. 50.01% is a slight majority, whereas 90% is a great majority. Anything less than 50% is not a majority, a slight majority, or a great majority


OP needs to learn what a subset is first, I don't think her Harvard education taught her that.

Don't think OP is a troll; probably just someone not all that smart (by that I mean stupid) who lied about his/her undergrad.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby Shmoopy » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:53 pm

CardozoLaw09 wrote:No one's called flame yet? Seems like yall are being trolled hard; claims to be from Harvard + 4.0 GPA and unable to communicate using proper syntax?


I've been reading op's post history for the lols, and I'm not really sure... Lots of concern about the LSAT. Harvard maybe, 4.0 definitely not. Nobody who knows how to get a 4.0 anywhere would have these kinds of questions, but the level of stupidity present at top schools never ceases to amaze me. I went to an ivy and I've known people who can't wrap their heads around things like counter examples, contrapositives, etc. I know a girl who is in med school now and needed a room full of people arguing with her to accept that there are no actual bones in the human penis.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby ScottRiqui » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:54 pm

natashka85 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
Merylian wrote:Is no one going to call troll yet? I think I will. (4.0 Harvard UG claim + broken English) x (Utter refusal to acknowledge the definition of majority + temper tantrum style hostility) = home alone and bored on New Years Eve. Five pages in, this can not possibly be a real argument anymore.

Nah, having looked at past posts, this is just an idiot. I don't believe the Harvard 4.0 claim, and think that was the kind of honest reporting that her idol, dave hall, taught her.

Your are stupid,so go and learn Lsat ,numbers and percentages,otherwise someone will kick your ass in court,majority of what (number) 5,4,3(5 is a majority compared to 4,4 is a majority compared to 3 ) out of 10.So you would better not mix these things.


If you're talking about a total population of 10, then NO group can be accurately described as ANY kind of a "majority" unless that group has at least six members.

Four out of ten is a larger group than three out of ten, but neither group is a majority. Five out of ten isn't a majority either.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:56 pm

natashka85 wrote:Your are stupid,so go and learn Lsat ,numbers and percentages,otherwise someone will kick your ass in court,majority of what (number) 5,4,3(5 is a majority compared to 4,4 is a majority compared to 3 ) out of 10.So you would better not mix these things.

A) I'm MENSA eligible, so I'm not stupid
B) I don't need to learn LSAT, I'm already in law school
C) I know far more about numbers and percentages than you do (and most people on this board, I'd wager)
D) your example is still not correct. 5 is greater than 4 which is greater than 3. If the distribution is 5, 4, 3, none of these are a majority, but 5 is a plurality. Also, this doesn't add up to 10, but to 12. (if you mean 5 out of 10, it's still not a majority)
E) you keep repeating yourself, but you're still wrong. Seriously. Look it up in a dictionary, or use google, or ask someone who knows english - ask one of your harvard professors
F) I don't ever intend to see the inside of a courtroom. But if I do, sure, there's a chance I'll get my ass kicked, but not because you think I don't understand the English language
G) I'm not the one mixing things up

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby Shmoopy » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:56 pm

natashka85 wrote:Your are stupid,so go and learn Lsat ,numbers and percentages,otherwise someone will kick your ass in court,majority of what (number) 5,4,3(5 is a majority compared to 4,4 is a majority compared to 3 ) out of 10.So you would better not mix these things.


"I object your honor, 5 is a great majority number out of 3."

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby Nova » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:59 pm

natashka85 wrote: Your are stupid,so go and learn Lsat ,numbers and percentages,otherwise someone will kick your ass in court,majority of what (number) 5,4,3(5 is a majority compared to 4,4 is a majority compared to 3 ) out of 10.So you would better not mix these things.

No.

Youre thinking plurality.

Majority is more than half of a total.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby ScottRiqui » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:01 am

Natashka85,

I know a few of us have used this term, but you should look up "plurality" - I think it will help clear up your misunderstanding.

If the largest group within a population doesn't make up more than 50% of the population, it's NOT a majority. It *is* a plurality, however.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:10 am

ScottRiqui wrote:Natashka85,

I know a few of us have used this term, but you should look up "plurality" - I think it will help clear up your misunderstanding.

If the largest group within a population doesn't make up more than 50% of the population, it's NOT a majority. It *is* a plurality, however.

I don't think she's willing to look things up

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby Merylian » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:15 am

natashka85 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
Merylian wrote:Is no one going to call troll yet? I think I will. (4.0 Harvard UG claim + broken English) x (Utter refusal to acknowledge the definition of majority + temper tantrum style hostility) = home alone and bored on New Years Eve. Five pages in, this can not possibly be a real argument anymore.

Nah, having looked at past posts, this is just an idiot. I don't believe the Harvard 4.0 claim, and think that was the kind of honest reporting that her idol, dave hall, taught her.

Your are stupid,so go and learn Lsat ,numbers and percentages,otherwise someone will kick your ass in court,majority of what (number) 5,4,3(5 is a majority compared to 4,4 is a majority compared to 3 ) out of 10.So you would better not mix these things.


What is this I don't even.

You know what, I hope it's all true. I hope you really DID get a 4.0, and that you also get an awesome LSAT score. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when an admissions committee reads through your application, lusts after your numbers, and then is utterly terrified by your personal statement (assuming it has even a passing resemblance to your communications here). Do they pass up an awesome number set when they're becoming rarer by the year, or do they allow someone to matriculate who is either abrasively ignorant or frighteningly close to the edge of sane?

Seriously. I bet some adcomms would toss and turn over that decision.

*Edit: And by that, I mean the wrong edge of sane.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:22 am

Merylian wrote:What is this I don't even.

You know what, I hope it's all true. I hope you really DID get a 4.0, and that you also get an awesome LSAT score. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when an admissions committee reads through your application, lusts after your numbers, and then is utterly terrified by your personal statement (assuming it has even a passing resemblance to your communications here). Do they pass up an awesome number set when they're becoming rarer by the year, or do they allow someone to matriculate who is either abrasively ignorant or frighteningly close to the edge of sane?

Seriously. I bet some adcomms would toss and turn over that decision.

*Edit: And by that, I mean the wrong edge of sane.

I just wish this person was in my section (the curve...)




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