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One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:28 pm

How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby A → B ⊨ ¬B → ¬A » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:34 pm

lol wut

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Postby suralin » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:36 pm

natashka85 wrote:How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.


wut

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Postby Cobretti » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:41 pm

natashka85 wrote:How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.


There is no debate on this. Majority is > Half, or "Most".

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:42 pm

mrizza wrote:
natashka85 wrote:How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.


There is no debate on this. Majority is > Half, or "Most".

Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol

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natashka85 wrote:
mrizza wrote:
natashka85 wrote:How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.


There is no debate on this. Majority is > Half, or "Most".

Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol


Define each for us and you'll get better answers.

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Postby suralin » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:02 pm

natashka85 wrote:
mrizza wrote:
natashka85 wrote:How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.


There is no debate on this. Majority is > Half, or "Most".

Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol


wut

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby A → B ⊨ ¬B → ¬A » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:11 pm

natashka85 wrote:Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol


Are you saying most is something between more than half and all, lol? Is this a fucking new year's riddle?

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:15 pm

natashka85 wrote:
mrizza wrote:
natashka85 wrote:How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.


There is no debate on this. Majority is > Half, or "Most".

Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol

Nope.

The definition of majority is more than half.
Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options

Therefore majority is always most, but most is not always majority

But I think you should focus less on the LSAT and more on your mastery of the English language

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby A → B ⊨ ¬B → ¬A » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:17 pm

dingbat wrote:Nope.

The definition of majority is more than half.
Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options

Therefore majority is always most, but most is not always majority

But I think you should focus less on the LSAT and more on your mastery of the English language


All of this is credited.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby TERS » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:24 pm

dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby suralin » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:31 pm

http://english.stackexchange.com/questi ... ajority-of

"I suppose there are three or more possible interpretations for most in these sentences.

A) a plurality (at least one more than any other alternative)

B) a majority (more than half, even if barely more)

C) a comfortable majority (well more than half)"

"This topic has been covered at Language Log (see here and here). In summary, people tend to use "most" to mean anything over 50%; some people feel it should only be used in sense C (a comfortable majority), but it is also used in sense A (a plurality). The context might make it clear which meaning is intended, or else it might simply be ambiguous."

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

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TERS wrote:
dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.


You should read that as vanilla got the most likes.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby CardozoLaw09 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:33 pm

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natashka85 wrote:Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol


Are you saying most is something between more than half and all, lol? Is this a fucking new year's riddle?

:lol:

OP: You can probably illustrate your point/argument better by way of an example so that there's context for us to more clearly evaluate your claim.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby Cobretti » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:33 pm

TERS wrote:
dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.


Most is > half on the LSAT. In every day language people might say most like vanilla, but not on the LSAT.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby suralin » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:36 pm

mrizza wrote:
TERS wrote:
dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.


Most is > half on the LSAT. In every day language people might say most like vanilla, but not on the LSAT.


+1. People might use most to mean a plurality, but you should be able to easily tell from the context.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:37 pm

dingbat wrote:
natashka85 wrote:
mrizza wrote:
natashka85 wrote:How many of you agrees that the great majority is most,acc to me it doesnt have to be most but it can be a great number ,so please elaborate on that each of you.


There is no debate on this. Majority is > Half, or "Most".

Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol

Nope.

The definition of majority is more than half.
Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options

Therefore majority is always most, but most is not always majority

But I think you should focus less on the LSAT and more on your mastery of the English language

Trust me i think u should sharpen your critical reasoning skills,great majority number can be 500000 but it doesnt have to be most of that.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby A → B ⊨ ¬B → ¬A » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:38 pm

mrizza wrote:
TERS wrote:
dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.


Most is > half on the LSAT. In every day language people might say most like vanilla, but not on the LSAT.


Most here just means greatest, so you could say vanilla had the most votes and clarify that it wasn't tied with any other if we weren't looking at the answers.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:39 pm

A → B ⊨ ¬B → ¬A wrote:
TERS wrote:
dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.


You should read that as vanilla got the most likes.

I like your example ,i posted here cause i came across that problem in test 49 ,your example is pretty close.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:41 pm

natashka85 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
natashka85 wrote: Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol

Nope.

The definition of majority is more than half.
Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options

Therefore majority is always most, but most is not always majority

But I think you should focus less on the LSAT and more on your mastery of the English language

Trust me i think u should sharpen your critical reasoning skills,great majority number can be 500000 but it doesnt have to be most of that.

Say what? Seriously, what are you saying?

The definition of majority is that it is more than half. The definition of most is more than any other option. If a "majority" is 500,000, then the total pool cannot be greater than 999,999. No other option can have more than 499,999, meaning that the 500,000 represents the most.

If the 500,000 represents a "great majority", then the pool is significantly smaller than 999,999.
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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

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natashka85 wrote:
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TERS wrote:
dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.


You should read that as vanilla got the most likes.

I like your example ,i posted here cause i came across that problem in test 49 ,your example is pretty close.

If it just said vanilla had the greatest number with four and didn't say how many went to the other two, you would also have to consider the possibility of a tie.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:42 pm

A → B ⊨ ¬B → ¬A wrote:
mrizza wrote:
TERS wrote:
dingbat wrote:Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options


Care to elaborate?

You have three ice cream flavors--Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry--and ten people.

4 people like Vanilla
3 people like Chocolate
3 people like Strawberry

"Of the group of ten, most people like Vanilla" is ambiguous.


Most is > half on the LSAT. In every day language people might say most like vanilla, but not on the LSAT.

i was referring the great majority of sth ,to be more specific.

Most here just means greatest, so you could say vanilla had the most votes and clarify that it wasn't tied with any other if we weren't looking at the answers.

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby natashka85 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:45 pm

dingbat wrote:
natashka85 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
natashka85 wrote: Majority can be majority number but that doesnt have to be most .lol

Nope.

The definition of majority is more than half.
Most doesn't have to be more than half, if there are several options

Therefore majority is always most, but most is not always majority

But I think you should focus less on the LSAT and more on your mastery of the English language

Trust me i think u should sharpen your critical reasoning skills,great majority number can be 500000 but it doesnt have to be most of that.

Say what? Seriously, what are you saying?

The definition of majority is that it is more than half. The definition of most is more than any other option. If a "majority" is 500,000, then the total pool cannot be greater than 999,999. No other option can have more than 499,999, meaning that the 500,000 represents the most.

If the 500,000 represents a "great majority", then the pool is significantly smaller than 999,999.

Its a great majority number but we don`t know 500 000 of what?it could be 1000 000 or 600 000 .

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby A → B ⊨ ¬B → ¬A » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:45 pm

natashka85 wrote:I like your example ,i posted here cause i came across that problem in test 49 ,your example is pretty close.


June 2006? Which question?

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Re: One more question for lsat instructors

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:47 pm

natashka85 wrote:Its a great majority number but we don`t know 500 000 of what?it could be 1000 000 or 600 000 .

500,000 out of 1,000,000 is not a majority.
500,000 out of 600,000 is a great majority

However, 500,000 out of 1,000,000 would be most, if there are more than 2 possibilities and each got at least 1
500,000 out of 600,000 would be most




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