JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby wtrc » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:27 pm

So what time is PT50 review tonight?

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Postby Daily_Double » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:16 pm

weathercoins wrote:So what time is PT50 review tonight?


I'm free around 6/7, or anytime later but before 9 CT.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby CardozoLaw09 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:07 pm

objection_your_honor wrote:Did you get a mic, Dozo?


Not yet objection.

Daily_Double wrote:
weathercoins wrote:So what time is PT50 review tonight?


I'm free around 6/7, or anytime later but before 9 CT.


I'm down for that. 8 pm CST sound good?

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby wtrc » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:24 pm

Anytime from 8-930 ET works for me. Left my hard copy of the PT at work but I have it in PDF form and wrote down the #'s I got wrong.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Daily_Double » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:40 pm

CardozoLaw09 wrote:I'm down for that. 8 pm CST sound good?


Sounds good.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby shieldofachilles » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:36 pm

u guys still doin this..im not 100 percent but i think i took 50 a couple days ago but wont get off the couch to check bc its too much of a hassle..energy needed for that....so basically id like to know if u guys r still reviewing to justify me getting off my ass to go check. (btw woke up took a pt this morning on too much caffeine and i was buggin but i did ok 165..now rc is the problem great....anyway let me know

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Daily_Double » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:46 pm

shieldofachilles wrote:u guys still doin this..im not 100 percent but i think i took 50 a couple days ago but wont get off the couch to check bc its too much of a hassle..energy needed for that....so basically id like to know if u guys r still reviewing to justify me getting off my ass to go check. (btw woke up took a pt this morning on too much caffeine and i was buggin but i did ok 165..now rc is the problem great....anyway let me know


50 is tonight. Build motivation.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby shieldofachilles » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:47 pm

is the review still on for 50...when is that
edit; spell check

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Postby Daily_Double » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:53 pm

shieldofachilles wrote:is the review still on for 50...when is that
edit; spell check


In about an hour.

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Postby wtrc » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:57 pm

Daily_Double wrote:
shieldofachilles wrote:is the review still on for 50...when is that
edit; spell check


In about an hour.


Using the Manhattan room?

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby shieldofachilles » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:03 pm

weathercoins wrote:
Daily_Double wrote:
shieldofachilles wrote:is the review still on for 50...when is that
edit; spell check


In about an hour.


Using the Manhattan room?


alright so ill go check lolthanks DD

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Daily_Double » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:04 pm

Yes weathercoins

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby shieldofachilles » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:06 pm

shieldofachilles wrote:
weathercoins wrote:
Daily_Double wrote:
shieldofachilles wrote:is the review still on for 50...when is that
edit; spell check


In about an hour.


Using the Manhattan room?


alright so ill go check lolthanks DD


no joke...lmfao...pt 50 was my cold diag 161...flipped through the games real quick and i was like damn what was i diagramming...it looked like a frantic monkey did that shit.

edit: ok i lokoed through most of it and its not the cold but it was like a second cold if i remember correctly bc i dont put postants on pts anymore...its gotta be old.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby objection_your_honor » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:59 pm

PT 40

LR: -1
LG: -0
LR: -2
RC: -0

98 / 178

As a retaker, I feel like a big fat phony with all these high scores. I've definitely seen this RC section (at least) — probably about this time last year. I didn't keep track of everything I did that time around. Even so, I have no choice but to engage with the material and try to iron out all errors in my approach. I'm taking the scores with a huge grain of salt.

Also, that 3rd game was insane.

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Postby wtrc » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:05 pm

objection_your_honor wrote:PT 40

LR: -1
LG: -0
LR: -2
RC: -0

98 / 178

As a retaker, I feel like a big fat phony with all these high scores. I've definitely seen this RC section (at least) — probably about this time last year. I didn't keep track of everything I did that time around. Even so, I have no choice but to engage with the material and try to iron out all errors in my approach. I'm taking the scores with a huge grain of salt.

Also, that 3rd game was insane.


Congrats! Even seeing the RC before, getting -0 after a year is incredible. Same with the -1 and -2 in the LR's. :)

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby objection_your_honor » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:07 pm

I'm trying to enter the review room for PT 50. It always fails during authentication. Anyone else having trouble?

EDIT: I'm in. Java update.
Last edited by objection_your_honor on Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby CardozoLaw09 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:09 pm

objection_your_honor wrote:PT 40

LR: -1
LG: -0
LR: -2
RC: -0

98 / 178

As a retaker, I feel like a big fat phony with all these high scores. I've definitely seen this RC section (at least) — probably about this time last year. I didn't keep track of everything I did that time around. Even so, I have no choice but to engage with the material and try to iron out all errors in my approach. I'm taking the scores with a huge grain of salt.

Also, that 3rd game was insane.


Sure they may not be accurate representations of where you're at, but given that you've done the test before - and an year ago at that (which is reasonably long) - these high scores are ones you should be getting so there's definitely a lot of good things to take away from this PT. Congrats!

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Kool-Aid » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:11 pm

Took pt 53 today: 173! Timed and with a bubble sheet
LR1 -4
LG -0
LR2 -2
RC -2

This is a personal best for me (by far), but I did see this pt back in October. I didn't review like I should while studying for the December test so I believe that's why I didn't remember much. Hopefully, this is a sign of things to come.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Daily_Double » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:16 pm

I'll be in the room in five, getting set up.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Daily_Double » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:20 am

Kool-Aid wrote:Took pt 53 today: 173! Timed and with a bubble sheet
LR1 -4
LG -0
LR2 -2
RC -2

This is a personal best for me (by far), but I did see this pt back in October. I didn't review like I should while studying for the December test so I believe that's why I didn't remember much. Hopefully, this is a sign of things to come.


Congrats man, keep it up.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Daily_Double » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:37 am

Awesome review today guys. I gave a tip that I thought I might as well mention here because I think it is pretty helpful.

So you've done some drilling, maybe a few PTs, you've reviewed your mistakes and the ones you were unsure on, that's great, but you could do more. What I've started doing, honestly it happened by accident a while ago, I started doing this with games, but I added it to my post test review for LR as well, is answering questions which weren't even asked. Now I know that doesn't make any sense, but I'll give an example about the last question we covered:

PT 50, S4, Q22, Q Type FLAW

Stimulus: More people die when they do A than B. Therefore doing B is less dangerous than doing A

Flaw: What if there's a different number of people who do A than B

Going Further: (answering questions which weren't even asked)
N/A: The same number of people do A and B
S/A: If more people suffer a death when they do something, then that thing is the least safe thing you could do
Strengthen: Less people die from B than A in other places
Weaken: The data is unrepresentative

Conclusion: Doing B is less dangerous than doing A
Inference: B is not the most dangerous activity in this place

The list goes on and on, but you get the picture.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby natashka85 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:41 am

Can u guys do review on weekdays ,cause i work on weekends,i just happened to get off from work earlier today,that`s how i could take part in the review,it was great and it motivates me to go on ,thanks to everyone?

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby Daily_Double » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:02 am

PT 51 is tomorrow, 34 minute sections, no bubbles, no breaks, no problems, I'm ready.

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby crazyrobin » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:38 am

Daily_Double wrote:Awesome review today guys. I gave a tip that I thought I might as well mention here because I think it is pretty helpful.

So you've done some drilling, maybe a few PTs, you've reviewed your mistakes and the ones you were unsure on, that's great, but you could do more. What I've started doing, honestly it happened by accident a while ago, I started doing this with games, but I added it to my post test review for LR as well, is answering questions which weren't even asked. Now I know that doesn't make any sense, but I'll give an example about the last question we covered:

PT 50, S4, Q22, Q Type FLAW

Stimulus: More people die when they do A than B. Therefore doing B is less dangerous than doing A

Flaw: What if there's a different number of people who do A than B

Going Further: (answering questions which weren't even asked)
N/A: The same number of people do A and B
S/A: If more people suffer a death when they do something, then that thing is the least safe thing you could do
Strengthen: Less people die from B than A in other places
Weaken: The data is unrepresentative

Conclusion: Doing B is less dangerous than doing A
Inference: B is not the most dangerous activity in this place

The list goes on and on, but you get the picture.

Great advice, thanks!!!

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Re: JUNE 2013 Study Group / Study Partner Thread

Postby objection_your_honor » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:21 am

Dozo, DD: I found it (crosswalks). Check out PT39, S2, Q5 and PT50, S4, Q22.




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