February 2013 LSAT Study Group

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby bre.kidman » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:01 pm

DLA wrote:Ugh just practiced RC from 68 and 42, got -7 and -5 respectively. Any suggestions for last minute build up? this is getting crazy. I don't understand how I could have lost all those points. Argh. And now, a day before the test, I have time management issues.

Any advice for taking care of time and ANY suggestions in general for RC will be very very welcome. Really freaking out here.

thank you so much.


This happened to me the last two days, too, for what it's worth. I know I feel better hearing that I'm not the only one, anyhow. Judging by others' responses, maybe we're burnt out? RC is (for me) all about feeling confident and thinking about NOTHING but the passage and each question as it comes. It's like the zen section of the LSAT... or as close as one can possibly be to zen while maintaining time pressure :lol:

My plan/suggestion is to RELAX. Tonight after 7 PM and tomorrow morning, NO LSAT STUFF. Tomorrow evening, I'll do one or two sections. Saturday, bringing a few LG that I know I can KILL. Swagger in like a boss and then get perma-wasted until March! Huzzah!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:22 pm

You can add me into the list of people with shitty PT 68's:

RC: -3
LR: -5 wtf?
LG: -5
LR: -0

88/101=169 . Sigh. Frankly I thought this test was harder than a -12 curve. I realize that 12 is generous, but LG was very hard, RC was pretty challenging, LR 1 was challenging, and LR 2 wasn't so bad, but it wasn't easy or anything.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:48 pm

dusters wrote:Praying for relative ordering and conditional grouping games come Saturday


I'll second that. We're overdue for a binary grouping, for sure.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:17 pm

princeR wrote:
objection_your_honor wrote:
princeR wrote:Hmmm, not sure what to do here. I just took PT 68 and did pretty terrible. I honestly felt good during all of the sections (had 9 minutes left on the 2nd LR). Seriously contemplating waiting until June... Honestly though, the one that keeping me from doing that now is the fact that I am already a retaker and will have absolutely no new material to go through. I'm not freaking out at all, just want to make an informed choice. Any input?

RC: -6
LR1: -4
LR2: -4
LG: -0


Don't make a decision based on this PT alone. If your average is not a point or two above your target score, consider waiting until June. The number of retakes you will have left after this is also something to consider.

Also, retaking PTs will not hurt you. (I'm also a retaker.)

Right, and I get that retaking PTs doesn't hurt (I've seen the thread), but I really don't like having anything new/unseen to judge my progress.

Well, then I guess it depends on how badly you want to apply this cycle still. If you have no intentions on applying still and feel like you would be better off waiting until June, go right ahead.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby princeR » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:37 pm

ws81086n wrote:You can add me into the list of people with shitty PT 68's:

RC: -3
LR: -5 wtf?
LG: -5
LR: -0

88/101=169 . Sigh. Frankly I thought this test was harder than a -12 curve. I realize that 12 is generous, but LG was very hard, RC was pretty challenging, LR 1 was challenging, and LR 2 wasn't so bad, but it wasn't easy or anything.


68.3.24; for this type of question, does anyone bother to take any contra-positives or is the answer simply going to be a perfect match? I wasted too much time on this.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:47 pm

princeR wrote:
ws81086n wrote:You can add me into the list of people with shitty PT 68's:

RC: -3
LR: -5 wtf?
LG: -5
LR: -0

88/101=169 . Sigh. Frankly I thought this test was harder than a -12 curve. I realize that 12 is generous, but LG was very hard, RC was pretty challenging, LR 1 was challenging, and LR 2 wasn't so bad, but it wasn't easy or anything.


68.3.24; for this type of question, does anyone bother to take any contra-positives or is the answer simply going to be a perfect match? I wasted too much time on this.


Not entirely sure what you're getting at, but you can eliminate three of the answer choices right off the bat b\c they have different conclusion forms than the stimulus. Conclusion is in X--->-Y form, so (B) is out b\c of some, and (A) and (D) are out b\c they're in X--->Y form.
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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:56 pm

princeR wrote:
ws81086n wrote:You can add me into the list of people with shitty PT 68's:

RC: -3
LR: -5 wtf?
LG: -5
LR: -0

88/101=169 . Sigh. Frankly I thought this test was harder than a -12 curve. I realize that 12 is generous, but LG was very hard, RC was pretty challenging, LR 1 was challenging, and LR 2 wasn't so bad, but it wasn't easy or anything.


68.3.24; for this type of question, does anyone bother to take any contra-positives or is the answer simply going to be a perfect match? I wasted too much time on this.

Well, you should always keep in mind the contrapositive, most of the time you shouldn't have to write it out though unless that really helps you out.. Right off the bat you can eliminate B because of "some," A and E because the arguments don't have any similar flaw. Once you get there a quick writing out of C shows you it matches up pretty well.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:08 pm

Anyone else taking 63 tomorrow, by any chance? Would be down to discuss it at some point if anyone who is taking it is down.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:20 pm

PT 57 LG: -1

Feel pretty good about this one, but I'm wondering why Dinos is so widely regarded as a killer game. Two of the colors are given and one of the slots has both color and dino type filled in. Seems easy enough for someone who's not a LG ace to more or less brute-force it, which is exactly what I did. Only took 11 minutes and I only missed one b/c of a careless mistake.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:27 pm

ws81086n wrote:PT 57 LG: -1

Feel pretty good about this one, but I'm wondering why Dinos is so widely regarded as a killer game. Two of the colors are given and one of the slots has both color and dino type filled in. Seems easy enough for someone who's not a LG ace to more or less brute-force it, which is exactly what I did. Only took 11 minutes and I only missed one b/c of a careless mistake.




i agree w you,i think it is much easier than the games in 67 ,i got all of them right but i screwed today the games section of 67,i took a break today and got cold i think if i wont get better till tmr then i am screwed,the best thing to do for the lsat is to work hard till u get a 180 then u take a break for 3 weeks and go to take the test,that way u kill it,and we all worked hard till burning ourselves ,now we are not fresh enough for this test.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby overperformer » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:33 pm

had a test in social psychology tonight. the professor was 10 minutes late. he asked us "what was your reaction when i was late? were you anxious to get started. or happy u had more time"

everyone said "happy for more time"

he said "well i was late to test a theory, and as expected, you gave the WRONG ANSWER! you all already know the material. if u know the material, then going over it again and again will only confuse you"

seems pretty relevant!

been doing lots and lots of LG's from the 60's PT tonight. I will never forgive myself if I screw up and LG. I think i've got this.

Tomorrow gotta work til 7. then just gona do some light LR and RC and get a good nights sleep.

p.s. dont make any plans in advance after the test. they can be distracting to concentration, at least for me it was, the only plan i have is going home and burning my prep books and PT printouts. this is my last go around

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby chickpea » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:36 pm

overperformer wrote:

the only plan i have is going home and burning my prep books and PT printouts. this is my last go around


+ 1

Also, still not entirely sure if I can actually take the test on Saturday. A lot of the testing centers in my state are closed but mine apparently isn't (yet). Here's to hoping this whole blizzard thing blows over.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby gobosox » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:32 am

chickpea wrote:
overperformer wrote:

the only plan i have is going home and burning my prep books and PT printouts. this is my last go around


+ 1

Also, still not entirely sure if I can actually take the test on Saturday. A lot of the testing centers in my state are closed but mine apparently isn't (yet). Here's to hoping this whole blizzard thing blows over.


I am taking mine at BU-- saw that BU is closed Friday and Saturday. If I were to diagram this it would go something like:

LSAT --> BU Open.

Therefore

BU Closed --> No LSAT

I can safely assume, through LSAC's own drilled-in reasoning, that I will not be taking my exam on Saturday... *Sigh* I'll check the official website tomorrow morning, as I hear there will be an update in the a.m.

At least I have more time to get over my apparent recent burnout.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:45 am

What happens in that situation, exactly? Do you take the religious observances version on Monday?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby beaver93 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:44 am

For those who took PT 68 and can you explain RC 19 for me. I have been staring at it for a while and have no clue how it is D and not C.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby chickpea » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:46 am

Sorry gobosox, that's kind of a pain. Well, perhaps the date change will work in your favor since you say you've been feeling kind of burnt out these past few says.

My testing site isn't listed as closed - we'll see what happens when LSAC updates the list of closed centers this morning. It's kind of frustrating now knowing if I'm taking the LSAT tomorrow morning or like two weeks from now...

I heard that LSAC usually reschedules tests a week or two later but I would prefer it if we could take it tomorrow or Monday. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby 2x2Matrix » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:51 am

beaver93 wrote:For those who took PT 68 and can you explain RC 19 for me. I have been staring at it for a while and have no clue how it is D and not C.


I picked C as well. From what I gather, 48-51 says that Pin Factory is clearly applicable to railroads, so railroads have increasing returns, which counters the Invisible Hand theory, hence D.

C says there's an "increasing prevalence" of such industries, which is not inferable.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:53 am

ws81086n wrote:What happens in that situation, exactly? Do you take the religious observances version on Monday?

They will get a different test at a yet to determined different date I would imagine.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:33 am

I'm relaxing today. Though I want to put a knife through the heart of game 4 PT68 again. (excuse the colorful language but that game made zones and dinosaurs and stained glass look like children's sandbox.)

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby chickpea » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:48 am

Looks like there will be no LSAT for me this Saturday. I really hope they reschedule it soon. I'm a re-taker so I'm pretty much out of study material. How sure how to spend this next week (or two?).

Best of luck to those of you taking the test tomorrow! You guys will do great!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby beaver93 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:14 pm

2x2Matrix wrote:
beaver93 wrote:For those who took PT 68 and can you explain RC 19 for me. I have been staring at it for a while and have no clue how it is D and not C.


I picked C as well. From what I gather, 48-51 says that Pin Factory is clearly applicable to railroads, so railroads have increasing returns, which counters the Invisible Hand theory, hence D.

C says there's an "increasing prevalence" of such industries, which is not inferable.


OK thanks.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby gobosox » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:19 pm

chickpea wrote:Looks like there will be no LSAT for me this Saturday. I really hope they reschedule it soon. I'm a re-taker so I'm pretty much out of study material. How sure how to spend this next week (or two?).

Best of luck to those of you taking the test tomorrow! You guys will do great!


Still haven't closed BU officially on LSAC, even though BU itself closed. I am planning on drinking lots of beer tonight in front of a fire to help weather the storm, so hopefully they update it soon.

Good luck to everyone not going through the blizzard of 2013... You'll all rock it! Thanks for all the support-- it's been great!!!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby TomThompson » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:04 pm

Some interesting stuff on how stress can benefit you going into tests: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/magaz ... ef=general

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Ambitious1 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:50 pm

are we allowed to bring mechanical pencils to the test? or strictly wooden?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby DLA » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:20 pm

Ambitious1 wrote:are we allowed to bring mechanical pencils to the test? or strictly wooden?


They are pretty strict about wooden pencils. I wouldn't carry any mechanical ones just because I don't want to create any last minute anxieties.

On another note, did no LSAT stuff the whole morning. Just lay in bed and looked at covers for the Samsung Galaxy s3. Going to drill some LR, reread the RC bible and probably do the zones game again and then bed at 10:30pm.

Ahh I hope this works out well!




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