February 2013 LSAT Study Group

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:07 pm

That game came down to efficient/organized diagramming and contrapositives for me.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:19 pm

Did the free online PT offered by LSAC this morning (June 2007) at got my best score ever for a test I had not previously taken. Feeling really good right now. I have two PTs left, going take one on Tuesday and PT 68 on Thursday.

LG: -1
LR: -0
LR: -2
RC: -4

exp LG: -3

93/11

171

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:20 pm

ws81086n wrote:Anyone else find the last game on PT 58 quite challenging? It's the binary conditional game on course selection. I had 12 minutes for it, but I still missed two. I think I might have shaved that to one if I had drawn a neater logic chain, which is something I would have been much better able to do with the amount of space we get on LG now. It's really kind of outrageous that they only started doing that in June '12. Anyway, I shouldn't make excuses, but this game was really tough I thought. Was starting to consider binary conditionals an automatic -0..not so much anymore.

Oddly enough that section is what I used for my experimental today. Only had 9:00 left to do it and I also got two wrong. It ends up being a pretty messy chain with all the arrows pointing in one direction which is something I've never seen before.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby overperformer » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:03 pm

PT 32 Fresh

LR -3
RC -5
LG -1
LR -4

87/100 puts me at 170.

Yes, I'd be thrilled to do this well on Saturday. And I'd be thrilled with a -13 curve,

The question about the brown drawf is cruel and unusual punishment

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:11 pm

Anyone done the music store game from PT 31. Tough one. I just (re)did it and it took me 12 minutes. Good practice for conditional rules if anyone wants to practice

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby DLA » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:59 pm

Just took PT 41. Games killed me.

LR: -2
LG: -5 (WHAT THE FUCK!?)
LR: -1
RC: -2
LGX (from pt 54): -3

91/101
171

So frustrated! Was poised to kill this test and got stuck at 171 again. The last game in 41 was so easy if only I had managed my time better. And the last game in 54. What the heck?! I got SO confused about the 4th lowest, 5th lowest, etc. and what that actually meant. Anyone got any advice for games? I am somehow ending up with lesser time than I need for the last game. Some strategies that you guys found useful will be much appreciated. Thank you!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:46 pm

I've basically got my problems down to:

RC: Not checking passage enough during AC elimination (I've gone -1 several times, so definitely can do it)
LR: Choking on the odd Assumption Qs, which used to be a guaranteed point. Need to sharpen this.
LG: More often than not, 1 really stupid/careless error.

That's standing between my current raw score average of 93 and where I want to be, 96+. Going to drill/PT (65,66,67,68) this week, light prep on Friday, and kill it on Saturday!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:59 pm

Mini-PT consisting of 3 hard sections:

RC 1 (PT 32): -1
RC 2 (PT 34): -0
LG (PT 27): -2

27's LG's were a pretty big challenge. Modern LG sections tend to have at most one very challenging game, but this section had two. Also seemed like the easiest game was harder than the easiest game usually is. I was quite content to only miss 2, though I guess it should have been 3. Feel great about RC.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:02 pm

Jcastro1 wrote:I've basically got my problems down to:

RC: Not checking passage enough during AC elimination (I've gone -1 several times, so definitely can do it)
LR: Choking on the odd Assumption Qs, which used to be a guaranteed point. Need to sharpen this.
LG: More often than not, 1 really stupid/careless error.

That's standing between my current raw score average of 93 and where I want to be, 96+. Going to drill/PT (65,66,67,68) this week, light prep on Friday, and kill it on Saturday!


Totally with you on all those. Tracking the argument can be very difficult on the top-level assumption questions. Best thing to do is probably take a deep breath and break down the argument's logic piece by piece. Going back to the passage on RC in the appropriate manner is also absolutely crucial. I would say taking a deep breath and calmly finding what one needs can be very helpful with that. Can't be afraid to spend 30-45 seconds re-reading on a difficult question.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:52 pm

Guys i drilled today all the principal questions ,also read how to approach disagree questions,i seem to have problem w role questions i mean i narrow down to two then unfortunately pick the wrong one ,any suggestions?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:55 pm

I like role questions a lot, though they can definitely be hairy. You should bracket the relevant text in the argument after reading the question stem if you don't do that already.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:09 am

ws81086n wrote:I like role questions a lot, though they can definitely be hairy. You should bracket the relevant text in the argument after reading the question stem if you don't do that already.


thanks ,that helps,anything else?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby TheThriller » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:40 am

Wow, PT64. My first sub 170 since June. :( Not what I needed this close to the test.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby LSLovely173 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:25 am

Hey all! Frequent lurker and Feb LSAT taker here! I had a question for those of you who have taken PT 64. Number 20 in section 3 has me stumped. I ultimately narrowed it down to B & C. I chose the correct answer, C, on some random knick-of-time logic that I have since forgotten and can't justify again. How did you all eliminate B?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:53 am

May be best not to go into specifics about a question from a recent PT in this thread. Decent chance that at least some people will be taking it this week. I could PM you an explanation.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby LSLovely173 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:20 am

ws81086n wrote:May be best not to go into specifics about a question from a recent PT in this thread. Decent chance that at least some people will be taking it this week. I could PM you an explanation.


That would be awesome, thanks!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby princeR » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:03 am

ws81086n wrote:I like role questions a lot, though they can definitely be hairy. You should bracket the relevant text in the argument after reading the question stem if you don't do that already.


I think the key to role questions is to realize the difference between what the statement is "doing" versus its "purpose". Often times, and I mean on pretty much ALL role questions, the main trick answer is going to be a description of what the statement is doing but it doesn't state the actual purpose/relation to the conclusion of the argument. This is something I need to keep in mind.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby mystikal » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:13 am

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby gobosox » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:04 pm

Took PT 68 Today. 93/101, 174.

Really disappointed...

-4 RC
-2 combined LR
-2 LG

Had 20 minutes left going into the last game and got smacked by it. I haven't had a game like that in a long while. Anyone else think a) 68's RC was really hard or b) it's 4th game (articles) was hard? It seemed like such a simple game but once I went into the questions they were all so general...

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby overperformer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:39 pm

gobosox wrote:Took PT 68 Today. 93/101, 174.

Really disappointed...

-4 RC
-2 combined LR
-2 LG

Had 20 minutes left going into the last game and got smacked by it. I haven't had a game like that in a long while. Anyone else think a) 68's RC was really hard or b) it's 4th game (articles) was hard? It seemed like such a simple game but once I went into the questions they were all so general...


well i wrote for PT68. didnt think RC was hard.

the 1st two games were cake, the 3rd sounded confusing but ended up being cake, and the game 4 was very deceiving. sequencing games are typically easier than all other types IMO, and the lack of inferences made it time consuming.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:05 am

Just did a make-shift PT made up of 5 above-average difficulty (determined by MLSAT forum stats) sections. Went 119/128. That's 93/100, so I feel great about it. Pretty sure this test would have had a -15 or -16 curve.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby 2x2Matrix » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:17 am

omgomgomg

PT 65

RC -1
LR -0, -2
LG -0

98/101 --> 180 :D

+ 2 LR from PT 60
LR1 -1 (used as 3rd section)
LR2 -3 (used as 6th section)

Feel awesome about this. Granted I'd done PT 65 back in September, so I recognized some of the stimulus upon reading them, but didn't remember any of the answer choices, so still had to reason through everything.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:01 am

I think I should take a break till Wednesday ,I haven't done any 5 section tests,I am burnt but I think if I drill Wednesday and Thursday I should be ok on Saturday .

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Instinctive » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:11 am

2x2Matrix wrote:omgomgomg

PT 65

RC -1
LR -0, -2
LG -0

98/101 --> 180 :D

+ 2 LR from PT 60
LR1 -1 (used as 3rd section)
LR2 -3 (used as 6th section)

Feel awesome about this. Granted I'd done PT 65 back in September, so I recognized some of the stimulus upon reading them, but didn't remember any of the answer choices, so still had to reason through everything.


NICE!!!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:22 am

At this point, I'm oscillating between nervousness (what if I blank on a game?) and excitement (I'm going to kill it and never look at another LSAT again!)

I can't wait for Saturday. Bring it.




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