February 2013 LSAT Study Group

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Instinctive » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:08 am

Took PT 61 today...and finally proved a 180 is do-able.

RC: -1
LR: -0
LG: -0
LR: -0

Raw: 100
Scaled: 180!!!!!!!!!


The RC was #12 - I even knew when I was doing it that I would miss it. I had absolutely no clue. Almost blew the Games section, misread a rule and had to redo the entire last game - it's practice things like that which make me more confident for the real test.


Some tips if you're doing any more PTing his week: Drink a ton of water in the hour or two leading up to at least one, just so you're used to having to go to the bathroom during a section or two. I know nobody plans on having to during the real deal, but you should no how to deal if that ends up being the case.

Also, make sure you practice setting watches quickly, not a lot of time to do so between sections.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:49 am

Well done, well done. I missed #12 too, but I really feel like I should have gotten it.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby gobosox » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:58 am

TheThriller wrote:
natashka85 wrote:I need PT 68 ,i don`t know how to get that,any help?


the one from this December?

If anyone has any idea on where I can buy PT 66 or 67 I would greatly appreciate it.


You can get them all from the LSAC website. Or amazon.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby gobosox » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:59 am

Instinctive wrote:Took PT 61 today...and finally proved a 180 is do-able.

RC: -1
LR: -0
LG: -0
LR: -0

Raw: 100
Scaled: 180!!!!!!!!!


The RC was #12 - I even knew when I was doing it that I would miss it. I had absolutely no clue. Almost blew the Games section, misread a rule and had to redo the entire last game - it's practice things like that which make me more confident for the real test.


Some tips if you're doing any more PTing his week: Drink a ton of water in the hour or two leading up to at least one, just so you're used to having to go to the bathroom during a section or two. I know nobody plans on having to during the real deal, but you should no how to deal if that ends up being the case.

Also, make sure you practice setting watches quickly, not a lot of time to do so between sections.


This inspires me to ROCK these next few PTs! Gotten 176s for my last few, one 178... Maybe, just maybe, I can improve enough to rock that 180.

Nice job! Keep up the good work!!!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby overperformer » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:42 pm

pt 64

LR1 -7
LG -0
LR2 -6
RC -5



very confused how i performed better on RC than both LR's. . missed 4 consecutive in LR2 after getting the 1st 13 credited.
83/101 166. generous curve

got this stupid online class wimba session to sit through before reviewing everything.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Instinctive » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:31 pm

gobosox wrote:
Instinctive wrote:Took PT 61 today...and finally proved a 180 is do-able.

RC: -1
LR: -0
LG: -0
LR: -0

Raw: 100
Scaled: 180!!!!!!!!!


The RC was #12 - I even knew when I was doing it that I would miss it. I had absolutely no clue. Almost blew the Games section, misread a rule and had to redo the entire last game - it's practice things like that which make me more confident for the real test.


Some tips if you're doing any more PTing his week: Drink a ton of water in the hour or two leading up to at least one, just so you're used to having to go to the bathroom during a section or two. I know nobody plans on having to during the real deal, but you should no how to deal if that ends up being the case.

Also, make sure you practice setting watches quickly, not a lot of time to do so between sections.


This inspires me to ROCK these next few PTs! Gotten 176s for my last few, one 178... Maybe, just maybe, I can improve enough to rock that 180.

Nice job! Keep up the good work!!!


You too! If my past experience with standardized testing bears out, a 180 is just a matter of luck. Getting to that 177+ area, where a question or two your way makes things a 180, is all that matters. If the test goes your way, great, if not...a 177 is pretty damn nice.

Or at least that's how I'm approaching it. Obviously 180 is the goal, but being a little more realistic about it really takes some pressure off.

I'm going to do a dry-run tomorrow morning. Getting up at the right time, even driving over to campus where I'll be taking the test. Any suggestions for which PT to use? I have 60, 62, 63, 64, 65, and 66 left.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:34 pm

Retook my October LSAT this morning, didn't exactly go as planned. Got there bright and early and the building was open but all the classroom doors were locked. Asked a janitor if he could let me in a room but he said he couldn't, so I walked my ass back home and took it there.First two sections went great. I originally bombed RC (stupid !Kung) but I knew I did much better this time. However, I completely messed up the first logic game and I knew it. Just stared at the thing but couldn't figure it out. I should have just moved on sooner but I wasted 6 minutes getting no answers, and it wasn't even a very difficult game. Still improved on my original score of a 162 to a 166, but that should be at least a 168 if I didn't bomb LG somehow.

October
RC: -9
LR: -5
LG: -3
LR: -4

79/100 162

Today
RC: -4
LR: -2
LG: -8
LR: -2

85/100 166

Oh well, at least this time when I knew I bombed a section I didn't let it affect me in the next section. And anyway, I would still be happy with a 166 come test day. Wouldn't be my best performance, but at least close to my average.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby princeR » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:38 pm

All I have left is PT 68 and 65. I'm taking 68 today and 65 on Wednesday then doing absolutely ZERO studying up until the test.

Good luck everyone!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby princeR » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:17 pm

Lol, got an email last night from Loyola University New Orleans College of Law, and I quote; "We want to wish you the very best on tomorrow's exam!"

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby TheThriller » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:34 pm

princeR wrote:Lol, got an email last night from Loyola University New Orleans College of Law, and I quote; "We want to wish you the very best on tomorrow's exam!"


He makes his return

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:14 pm

I think i should give up on Feb,,i took three sections today PT 65
LR-1
G-3
Lr-6plus 4 that i run out of time but eventually got all of them right
I know i am burnt,but these recent tests kick my ass,i have been getting 175-178 and then i started performing this bad on the last tests,i am gonna do two more recent tests one monday one wednesday ,if i screw them then i have no choice but to withdraw my test w tears in my eyes.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:28 pm

Do you guys use the Logic Chain (Manhattan LSAT's method) for conditional grouping games?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:43 pm

ws81086n wrote:Do you guys use the Logic Chain (Manhattan LSAT's method) for conditional grouping games?

I do. At first it seemed a bit weird to me but once I got the process down it made those game types really easy for me, and I spend a lot less time on them than I used to. Finished one game in like 3 minutes.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:47 pm

Did 2 PTs back-to-back today (section-section-section-break-section-section-section-break-section-section) to some mixed results:

PT63:

LR -2
LG -1
LR -3
RC -5 (I don't think I understand a word of that ocean passage and I'm usually okay with science passages!)

90/101

170

PT64
LR -2
LR -1
LG -1
RC -4

93/101

174

Going to review these two bad boys in-depth. Do some hardcore drilling tomorrow. And hopefully test in Instinctive's range next week :D

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Instinctive » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:00 pm

Jcastro1 wrote:Did 2 PTs back-to-back today (section-section-section-break-section-section-section-break-section-section) to some mixed results:

PT63:

LR -2
LG -1
LR -3
RC -5 (I don't think I understand a word of that ocean passage and I'm usually okay with science passages!)

90/101

170

PT64
LR -2
LR -1
LG -1
RC -4

93/101

174

Going to review these two bad boys in-depth. Do some hardcore drilling tomorrow. And hopefully test in Instinctive's range next week :D


You can do it! Just remember - minimal markings on RC: just enough to find things you think there will be questions about. And then use your time on each question you're unsure of to FIND EVIDENCE IN THE PASSAGE. That is easily the single biggest jump I've made on the test: from averaging at least -5 on RC to averaging -2.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby overperformer » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:24 pm

pt 56

2nd time though, did this one about 3 weeks ago

LG -0
LR1 -2
LR2 -0
RC -0

98/100
180

an all time high, only broken the 170 barrier once prior to this

obviously, the repetitive material seems to help. really think i'm starting to get into a grove on RC. i am starting to get the feel as to where the questions will come from as I read, and am placing more of an emphaisis on where material is located, then understanding it 100% perfectly as I read. thus i'd say the Manhattan RC strategy is much better than PowerScores, imo.

the 2 I missed, one was a formal logic question. bummed, ive really been knocking these out cold after going through the PS chapter. the other, well, it fooled me.


given the time frame im not going to get too happy

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:35 pm

dusters wrote:
ws81086n wrote:Do you guys use the Logic Chain (Manhattan LSAT's method) for conditional grouping games?

I do. At first it seemed a bit weird to me but once I got the process down it made those game types really easy for me, and I spend a lot less time on them than I used to. Finished one game in like 3 minutes.


I definitely tend to agree. It takes some getting used to, but it's worth it. Can't put a price tag on a conditional diagram that connects all the constraints for you. Just gotta make sure it's not messy.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:24 pm

After thoroughly reviewing my PT today, I can't believe I made so many stupid mistakes on LG. If I would have gotten the same LG score as I did in October I would have scored a 170 today. Made some really obvious errors.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:52 pm

dusters wrote:After thoroughly reviewing my PT today, I can't believe I made so many stupid mistakes on LG. If I would have gotten the same LG score as I did in October I would have scored a 170 today. Made some really obvious errors.


What did you think of Zones when you took that test for real? I kind of see what people mean when they say coming across an unusual game like that unexpectedly in the middle of the real thing can be flustering.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby dusters » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:01 pm

ws81086n wrote:
dusters wrote:After thoroughly reviewing my PT today, I can't believe I made so many stupid mistakes on LG. If I would have gotten the same LG score as I did in October I would have scored a 170 today. Made some really obvious errors.


What did you think of Zones when you took that test for real? I kind of see what people mean when they say coming across an unusual game like that unexpectedly in the middle of the real thing can be flustering.

I honestly didn't think zones was that bad. I got one question wrong on zones because I ran out of time, but I only had like 8:00 left going into the game. It was certainly an odd game back-ended game and the toughest part of it was understanding what the hell the rules even meant. Once I write them all down though most of the questions weren't that hard. The final question I think is pretty difficult though.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:53 pm

i missed all the question today in Lr only the ones i haven`t drilled,do u guys think if i keep drilling all my weak places till wednesday i can rock it,cause i missed only principle ,disagree,role and completion arguments,the rest was fine,can someone give me some advice if three days is enough time to start from 5 am-8pm and fix all my weak points?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:59 pm

natashka85 wrote:i missed all the question today in Lr only the ones i haven`t drilled,do u guys think if i keep drilling all my weak places till wednesday i can rock it,cause i missed only principle ,disagree,role and completion arguments,the rest was fine,can someone give me some advice if three days is enough time to start from 5 am-8pm and fix all my weak points?


Provided you're on the cusp of breaking through, a final push could definitely get you there. I plan on officially making games a -0 section this week, mastering parallel/parallel flaw, and shoring up my weaken skills.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:04 pm

Ok,i am still not giving up,i am sort of happy that i missed only the ones i didnt drill,this one was a new test,so it was sort of accurate indication i am gonna keep working hard on my weak points to see if i can rock this.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby DLA » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:07 am

I've been scoring in the 170-173 range, with LR and RC being the main problems.

I'm really trying to push myself to the other side of the 175 (or even land 175, really). I am running out of time in the end and haven't been able to recheck answers in LR and RC. Any advice?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:05 am

Anyone else find the last game on PT 58 quite challenging? It's the binary conditional game on course selection. I had 12 minutes for it, but I still missed two. I think I might have shaved that to one if I had drawn a neater logic chain, which is something I would have been much better able to do with the amount of space we get on LG now. It's really kind of outrageous that they only started doing that in June '12. Anyway, I shouldn't make excuses, but this game was really tough I thought. Was starting to consider binary conditionals an automatic -0..not so much anymore.




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