February 2013 LSAT Study Group

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:59 pm

Anyone else find the common opinion that older RC is way easier totally bunk? There seems to be a gimme section every now and then, but for the most part they are great practice. For those looking for a challenging section, PT 31's RC fills the bill.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby TomThompson » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:04 pm

ws81086n wrote:Anyone else find the common opinion that older RC is way easier totally bunk? There seems to be a gimme section every now and then, but for the most part they are great practice. For those looking for a challenging section, PT 31's RC fills the bill.


I dunno I went 0/-2 consistently up to pt 39, and probably averaged -4 on 52-67.

Been drilling logic games and I'm starting to enjoy doing them. Some are still frustrating but I'm actually starting to enjoy studying for the lsat again. That said, I haven't started working in full length PT's so that's when the pain will start.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:25 pm

You may have had a bad sample size, though I guess you did say "up to pt 39" so who knows. My last 10 prior to PT 31, I alternated between a difficult (based on MLSAT forum data) one from 39 and below and a difficult one from 40 and above, and I was consistently -0 or -1, and felt like they were about equally difficult. Just went -3 on PT 31, though. I'll agree that 39 and below are easier on the whole, but I really can't buy that they're way easier. 65 is the hardest I've ever seen, but I would say that 30-32, 34, 22, 19, to name just a few, could stack up with just about any RC section from 40+.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby andy261 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:18 am

Pulled the trigger and just signed up for the Feb LSAT with one hour to go... It'll be my third time and I already applied to law schools this cycle. Previously got a 166 (last Feb) and 168 (Oct). Aiming for a 170 this time. I was PTing at 170-172 before Oct but unfortunately messed up on zones even though I was consistently getting -0 on LG. Hoping third time's the charm!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby overperformer » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:23 am

im so close, i cant taste it. i can taste victory.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:19 am

[quote="ws81086n"]Anyone else find the common opinion that older RC is way easier totally bunk? There seems to be a gimme section every now and then, but for the most part they are great practice. For those looking for a challenging section, PT 31's RC fills the bill.[/quote

I think the style was different,meaning if u actually understood everything u could get right,the modern Rc is more word watching meaning the answers are w line references,so i would say the approach need to be changed a little bit,needs to be treated more like an Lr ,let me know what u think

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby eav1277 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:03 am

Has anyone else done PT 64 in the recent past? Was the RC normal or tougher than most? I did great on the first two sections but fell apart on the last two passages. I'm not sure what happened because RC is usually my strongest section.

Oh well. Good luck to everyone. Getting close!!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby chickpea » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:36 am

andy261 wrote:Pulled the trigger and just signed up for the Feb LSAT with one hour to go... It'll be my third time and I already applied to law schools this cycle. Previously got a 166 (last Feb) and 168 (Oct). Aiming for a 170 this time. I was PTing at 170-172 before Oct but unfortunately messed up on zones even though I was consistently getting -0 on LG. Hoping third time's the charm!


Hey! I have the exact same previous LSAT scores as you do and am determined to hit 170+ this time around. Let's make it happen!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby andy261 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:24 pm

chickpea wrote:
andy261 wrote:Pulled the trigger and just signed up for the Feb LSAT with one hour to go... It'll be my third time and I already applied to law schools this cycle. Previously got a 166 (last Feb) and 168 (Oct). Aiming for a 170 this time. I was PTing at 170-172 before Oct but unfortunately messed up on zones even though I was consistently getting -0 on LG. Hoping third time's the charm!


Hey! I have the exact same previous LSAT scores as you do and am determined to hit 170+ this time around. Let's make it happen!


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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:34 pm

Anyone else applying this cycle? I'll be throwing an app into Yale (and probably getting rejected)

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby AT9 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:48 pm

Hey all,

I've taken 5 practice tests in the past 10/11 days and my raw score has been 77 three of the five times - the other two were 76. With the test 3 weeks from today, what's the best way to break out of this consistency and improve my score by a few points?

I'm weakest in LG and RC, so my plan is to study those the most and continue taking practice tests every couple of days. Beyond that, does anyone have any special tips (either on those sections specifically or overall) to improve in such a short time? My PT'S are around 160/161, and I'd really like to score mid 160's. Thanks!

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:33 pm

Guys i am screwed,
i took one of the Feb tests today and scored 165,i think i should take this in june ,especially i am not used to waking up in the mornings,i just dont know if the three weeks can change that,what if on the tests day that 165 drops to a 160,three weeks is still a lot,but i am confused feb test is very weird and hard,dont know.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby Jcastro1 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:36 pm

The LSAT is a standardized test. This means that in terms of difficulty and preparation, it would be no different if this was December or any other date (except June, I guess for prep reasons, which is at noon).

Review your PT. Take one of the modern ones and then reassess. It may just be that you aren't as prepped as you think you are, rather than Feb. tests being unique.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:36 pm

natashka85 wrote:Guys i am screwed,
i took one of the Feb tests today and scored 165,i think i should take this in june ,especially i am not used to waking up in the mornings,i just dont know if the three weeks can change that,what if on the tests day that 165 drops to a 160,three weeks is still a lot,but i am confused feb test is very weird and hard,dont know.


Relax! The Feb tests are known to be odd. From what I've seen, RC is easier, LG harder, and LR about the same--are you worse at LG?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:38 pm

you maybe right,i think i am scoring 165 not 175,the modern tests i take i took them before and i think my score is going down 10 points,even though the mistakes i missed were ridiculous,it all depends on my mind ,if i cant concentrate i get the question wrong.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby TomThompson » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:09 pm

Just wrote PT 39, first PT since Octobertest and scored just my second 170. Feels good :) but there's lots of improvement to go. With some intense drilling I think I can definitely drop that LG a few points.

LG: -4
LR1: -3
RC: -3
LR2: -2

@ws81086n: I did single RC sections from around 15-39 so it was probably just me. 39 was pretty tough though. I was expecting worse than -3

Should I review this test tomorrow or should I wait a few days?

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:19 pm

ws81086n wrote:
natashka85 wrote:Guys i am screwed,
i took one of the Feb tests today and scored 165,i think i should take this in june ,especially i am not used to waking up in the mornings,i just dont know if the three weeks can change that,what if on the tests day that 165 drops to a 160,three weeks is still a lot,but i am confused feb test is very weird and hard,dont know.


Relax! The Feb tests are known to be odd. From what I've seen, RC is easier, LG harder, and LR about the same--are you worse at LG?



Nope,i usually don't miss any in games ,I missed 5 today in that feb test cause I was sick today and didn't read one rule carefully ,but usually I am good w games,I worry about lr,the arguments will be longervand odd ,but if I study hard these three weeks I think I can make it ,hm,one day left to change the test day I am assuming that they won't even have the withdraw option this year.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:14 am

natashka85 wrote:
ws81086n wrote:
natashka85 wrote:Guys i am screwed,
i took one of the Feb tests today and scored 165,i think i should take this in june ,especially i am not used to waking up in the mornings,i just dont know if the three weeks can change that,what if on the tests day that 165 drops to a 160,three weeks is still a lot,but i am confused feb test is very weird and hard,dont know.


Relax! The Feb tests are known to be odd. From what I've seen, RC is easier, LG harder, and LR about the same--are you worse at LG?



Nope,i usually don't miss any in games ,I missed 5 today in that feb test cause I was sick today and didn't read one rule carefully ,but usually I am good w games,I worry about lr,the arguments will be longervand odd ,but if I study hard these three weeks I think I can make it ,hm,one day left to change the test day I am assuming that they won't even have the withdraw option this year.


I would not change at this point, esp if you've done a bunch of work. Feb is the last opportunity until June, which is a long time to wait. I would also add that, although we only have three weeks left, that is probably just enough time to make legit progress/have a breakthrough of sorts. Last minute, granted, but still feasible.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:19 am

How do you guys deal with exceedingly difficult passages? I suppose the proper thing to do is take a deep breath and read more carefully/slowly. Last passage of PT 46 was hellish. I would have been crushed by it if I hadn't had 11 minutes going in. Also CR on PT 65 comes to mind...

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby TheThriller » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:02 am

Getting back on my game guys. After a blow to my confidence, clinched a 176 PT 60.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby ws81086n » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:53 am

TheThriller wrote:Getting back on my game guys. After a blow to my confidence, clinched a 176 PT 60.


Nicely done! Pretty hard LG on that one, right? I would have had a 173/4 on that one if I hadn't panicked on the last game because I did not make the proper deductions. Got a 170, with 8 wrong on LG. RC was also pretty challenging on that one too, if I recall correctly.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:15 am

anyone knows if we shall have the withdraw option or no?
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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby natashka85 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:16 am

ws81086n wrote:How do you guys deal with exceedingly difficult passages? I suppose the proper thing to do is take a deep breath and read more carefully/slowly. Last passage of PT 46 was hellish. I would have been crushed by it if I hadn't had 11 minutes going in. Also CR on PT 65 comes to mind...



Thanks for encouraging me,i appreciate that,i would say for tough passages,i breathe deeply it helps a lot ,then i pose after each paragraph and recall sentence by sentence what i read,then when i finish the passage i know where things are,that helps me to eliminate the wrong ones and i pick the right answer w line references or when i read the answer i know it is the one,but trust me for Rc when u understand it it is impossible to go wrong.Hope it helps.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby chickpea » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:45 am

AT9 wrote:Hey all,

I've taken 5 practice tests in the past 10/11 days and my raw score has been 77 three of the five times - the other two were 76. With the test 3 weeks from today, what's the best way to break out of this consistency and improve my score by a few points?

I'm weakest in LG and RC, so my plan is to study those the most and continue taking practice tests every couple of days. Beyond that, does anyone have any special tips (either on those sections specifically or overall) to improve in such a short time? My PT'S are around 160/161, and I'd really like to score mid 160's. Thanks!


I would take a break from PTs for a few day and do some major LG And RC drilling. The last time I took the LSAT I just took PT after PT and that didn't really help me improve - this time I'm focusing on drilling and I'm really improving. Just my two cents.

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Re: February 2013 LSAT Study Group

Postby chickpea » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:49 am

Jcastro1 wrote:Anyone else applying this cycle? I'll be throwing an app into Yale (and probably getting rejected)


I'm applying this cycle and am also throwing Yale an app. I know the odds of getting in are terrible, even if I do score 170+ on the Feb test, but I figure it's worth a shot. Yale's admissions decisions seem to be more unpredictable than Harvard's.




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