December 2012 Re-takers

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Alorain » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:31 pm

I just paid $1100 in application and transcript fees. It hurt. Good thing I wasn't planning on drinking at all this month anyways.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby GabeQuixote » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:32 pm

Alorain wrote:Bitches, I just paid $1100 in application and transcript fees. It hurt. Good thing I wasn't planning on drinking at all this month anyways.


Where'd you apply? Did you get any fee waivers?

I haven't even bothered. I'm just at work. :/

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby gguuueessttt » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:34 pm

GabeQuixote wrote:
bitsy wrote:
mrizza wrote:What'd you get? I got UCLA and UVA, plus a bunch of TTTs


same, plus a few that i think are specific to my UG


I got nothing. :oops:


I didn't get anything either (169/3.68). I wonder if schools just sent out waivers to everyone with 170+

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby bitsy » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:40 pm

mrizza wrote:K let's say 1PM CST on Sunday, and go over the last 5 passages in Humanities and last 5 from Natural Sciences in Cambridge.


can we go over some of the mid-difficulty ones too? i dont want to use up all the hard stuff.


and retakers-- contact schools for waivers if you dont get them unsolicited. theres a remarkably high rate of success.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby GabeQuixote » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:41 pm

bitsy wrote:
mrizza wrote:K let's say 1PM CST on Sunday, and go over the last 5 passages in Humanities and last 5 from Natural Sciences in Cambridge.


can we go over some of the mid-difficulty ones too? i dont want to use up all the hard stuff.


and retakers-- contact schools for waivers if you dont get them unsolicited. theres a remarkably high rate of success.


It's more like, you know you're hot if the pretty ones beat your door down.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby annet » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:45 pm

gguuueessttt wrote:
GabeQuixote wrote:
bitsy wrote:
mrizza wrote:What'd you get? I got UCLA and UVA, plus a bunch of TTTs


same, plus a few that i think are specific to my UG


I got nothing. :oops:


I didn't get anything either (169/3.68). I wonder if schools just sent out waivers to everyone with 170+


164/3.68 - only TTT here. Although playing "guess the law school" is kinda fun. Dudes, your acronym only works if I've heard of your school before.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Cobretti » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:47 pm

bitsy wrote:
mrizza wrote:K let's say 1PM CST on Sunday, and go over the last 5 passages in Humanities and last 5 from Natural Sciences in Cambridge.


can we go over some of the mid-difficulty ones too? i dont want to use up all the hard stuff.


and retakers-- contact schools for waivers if you dont get them unsolicited. theres a remarkably high rate of success.


Ugh, I just didn't want to have to figure out how to number these things. Why aren't they numbered???

Alright let's do the following sections that begin on these pages from the PDF

Humanities
76
74
48
46
22

Natural Sciences
72
70
42
40
18

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Lenahan3 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:48 pm

-Completed PT 56.

I started a little late (around 9:30) due to having to take care of some bullshit before heading to school and then copying my test on a dinosaur of a copier.

Location: I decided to do my test today on the noisy floor of my library and ended up landing in front of a giant study group with an overly jubilant nerdy girl who was loud as hell, which I suppose I'm actually thankful for. Next test (Wednesday) will likely be taken at Barnes and Noble.

Warm-up: two Logic Games from PT 41

This is a retake: the last time I took this test was August 27, which was nice because I didn't remember it at all. I had faint recollections of the RC's but no answers and perhaps two LR questions, tops. All in all, I'm not as concerned as I could be about overlap as in this case it might have been a point or two at most.

The test itself felt pretty good.

-Logic games was the first section. I finished in enough time to check my answers, which was nice because I caught an answer I had misbubbled and another I had simply missed. Key for me in Logic games is to slow down.

-LR was great. My biggest problem in LR is too much speed. My first prep for October was usually clocked in between 18-23 minutes to finish each LR section. I would spend my time reviewing answers, but I still was consistently at about -1 or -2 per section, and it decidedly fucked me on test day when combined with all the other factors. My biggest purpose today was to SLOW DOWN. I concentrated on that in particular and ended up finishing in about 30 minutes for all three sections (experimental LR) with 5 minutes to check over answers. This worked out well.

-RC, for me, is usually the random. I'll go anywhere from -0 to -3 and in extreme cases where I dont buckle down, up to my personal worst (-7) which I tied on test day. Joy. I focused on structure of the argument, slowed down my reading like I did in LR, and didn't do any underlining whatsoever. I took notes at the end of each paragraph after recollection that ranged anywhere from 5-11 words. I finished with 4 minutes to spare and ended up checking over my answers. This, again, was helpful as I usually finish RC in about 27 minutes.

After grading the test and funneling my answers into LsatQA, my feelings of the test were justified.

LG- (-1)
LR1- (-0)
Ex. LR- (-2)
LR2- (-0)
RC- (-0)

Final Score: 180/180

Other than my experimental section, I was satisfied with today. I consistently miss more on my Ex. versus my other sections, no matter the type or its placement, but I chalk that up to me knowing which section it is as well as usually using random Ex. I think it helps to throw in random Ex. like today, PT 56 and Ex. from PT 41 because they are fairly different in composition and can serve to jar you enough to make you think and not just get in a mode of thought that can easily screw you over on the real test if they hit you with a piece from left-field.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby bitsy » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:50 pm

Lenahan3 wrote:-Completed PT 56.

I started a little late (around 9:30) due to having to take care of some bullshit before heading to school and then copying my test on a dinosaur of a copier.

Location: I decided to do my test today on the noisy floor of my library and ended up landing in front of a giant study group with an overly jubilant nerdy girl who was loud as hell, which I suppose I'm actually thankful for. Next test (Wednesday) will likely be taken at Barnes and Noble.

Warm-up: two Logic Games from PT 41

This is a retake: the last time I took this test was August 27, which was nice because I didn't remember it at all. I had faint recollections of the RC's but no answers and perhaps two LR questions, tops. All in all, I'm not as concerned as I could be about overlap as in this case it might have been a point or two at most.

The test itself felt pretty good.

-Logic games was the first section. I finished in enough time to check my answers, which was nice because I caught an answer I had misbubbled and another I had simply missed. Key for me in Logic games is to slow down.

-LR was great. My biggest problem in LR is too much speed. My first prep for October was usually clocked in between 18-23 minutes to finish each LR section. I would spend my time reviewing answers, but I still was consistently at about -1 or -2 per section, and it decidedly fucked me on test day when combined with all the other factors. My biggest purpose today was to SLOW DOWN. I concentrated on that in particular and ended up finishing in about 30 minutes for all three sections (experimental LR) with 5 minutes to check over answers. This worked out well.

-RC, for me, is usually the random. I'll go anywhere from -0 to -3 and in extreme cases where I dont buckle down, up to my personal worst (-7) which I tied on test day. Joy. I focused on structure of the argument, slowed down my reading like I did in LR, and didn't do any underlining whatsoever. I took notes at the end of each paragraph after recollection that ranged anywhere from 5-11 words. I finished with 4 minutes to spare and ended up checking over my answers. This, again, was helpful as I usually finish RC in about 27 minutes.

After grading the test and funneling my answers into LsatQA, my feelings of the test were justified.

LG- (-1)
LR1- (-0)
Ex. LR- (-2)
LR2- (-0)
RC- (-0)

Final Score: 180/180

Other than my experimental section, I was satisfied with today. I consistently miss more on my Ex. versus my other sections, no matter the type or its placement, but I chalk that up to me knowing which section it is as well as usually using random Ex. I think it helps to throw in random Ex. like today, PT 56 and Ex. from PT 41 because they are fairly different in composition and can serve to jar you enough to make you think and not just get in a mode of thought that can easily screw you over on the real test if they hit you with a piece from left-field.


hot damn lena, congrats!!

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Lenahan3 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:51 pm

bitsy wrote:
Lenahan3 wrote:-Completed PT 56.

I started a little late (around 9:30) due to having to take care of some bullshit before heading to school and then copying my test on a dinosaur of a copier.

Location: I decided to do my test today on the noisy floor of my library and ended up landing in front of a giant study group with an overly jubilant nerdy girl who was loud as hell, which I suppose I'm actually thankful for. Next test (Wednesday) will likely be taken at Barnes and Noble.

Warm-up: two Logic Games from PT 41

This is a retake: the last time I took this test was August 27, which was nice because I didn't remember it at all. I had faint recollections of the RC's but no answers and perhaps two LR questions, tops. All in all, I'm not as concerned as I could be about overlap as in this case it might have been a point or two at most.

The test itself felt pretty good.

-Logic games was the first section. I finished in enough time to check my answers, which was nice because I caught an answer I had misbubbled and another I had simply missed. Key for me in Logic games is to slow down.

-LR was great. My biggest problem in LR is too much speed. My first prep for October was usually clocked in between 18-23 minutes to finish each LR section. I would spend my time reviewing answers, but I still was consistently at about -1 or -2 per section, and it decidedly fucked me on test day when combined with all the other factors. My biggest purpose today was to SLOW DOWN. I concentrated on that in particular and ended up finishing in about 30 minutes for all three sections (experimental LR) with 5 minutes to check over answers. This worked out well.

-RC, for me, is usually the random. I'll go anywhere from -0 to -3 and in extreme cases where I dont buckle down, up to my personal worst (-7) which I tied on test day. Joy. I focused on structure of the argument, slowed down my reading like I did in LR, and didn't do any underlining whatsoever. I took notes at the end of each paragraph after recollection that ranged anywhere from 5-11 words. I finished with 4 minutes to spare and ended up checking over my answers. This, again, was helpful as I usually finish RC in about 27 minutes.

After grading the test and funneling my answers into LsatQA, my feelings of the test were justified.

LG- (-1)
LR1- (-0)
Ex. LR- (-2)
LR2- (-0)
RC- (-0)

Final Score: 180/180

Other than my experimental section, I was satisfied with today. I consistently miss more on my Ex. versus my other sections, no matter the type or its placement, but I chalk that up to me knowing which section it is as well as usually using random Ex. I think it helps to throw in random Ex. like today, PT 56 and Ex. from PT 41 because they are fairly different in composition and can serve to jar you enough to make you think and not just get in a mode of thought that can easily screw you over on the real test if they hit you with a piece from left-field.


hot damn lena, congrats!!


Meh. It's only a retake, otherwise I'd be a little happier about it. Thank you though!

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Cobretti » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:56 pm

Lenahan3 wrote:-Completed PT 56.

I started a little late (around 9:30) due to having to take care of some bullshit before heading to school and then copying my test on a dinosaur of a copier.

Location: I decided to do my test today on the noisy floor of my library and ended up landing in front of a giant study group with an overly jubilant nerdy girl who was loud as hell, which I suppose I'm actually thankful for. Next test (Wednesday) will likely be taken at Barnes and Noble.

Warm-up: two Logic Games from PT 41

This is a retake: the last time I took this test was August 27, which was nice because I didn't remember it at all. I had faint recollections of the RC's but no answers and perhaps two LR questions, tops. All in all, I'm not as concerned as I could be about overlap as in this case it might have been a point or two at most.

The test itself felt pretty good.

-Logic games was the first section. I finished in enough time to check my answers, which was nice because I caught an answer I had misbubbled and another I had simply missed. Key for me in Logic games is to slow down.

-LR was great. My biggest problem in LR is too much speed. My first prep for October was usually clocked in between 18-23 minutes to finish each LR section. I would spend my time reviewing answers, but I still was consistently at about -1 or -2 per section, and it decidedly fucked me on test day when combined with all the other factors. My biggest purpose today was to SLOW DOWN. I concentrated on that in particular and ended up finishing in about 30 minutes for all three sections (experimental LR) with 5 minutes to check over answers. This worked out well.

-RC, for me, is usually the random. I'll go anywhere from -0 to -3 and in extreme cases where I dont buckle down, up to my personal worst (-7) which I tied on test day. Joy. I focused on structure of the argument, slowed down my reading like I did in LR, and didn't do any underlining whatsoever. I took notes at the end of each paragraph after recollection that ranged anywhere from 5-11 words. I finished with 4 minutes to spare and ended up checking over my answers. This, again, was helpful as I usually finish RC in about 27 minutes.

After grading the test and funneling my answers into LsatQA, my feelings of the test were justified.

LG- (-1)
LR1- (-0)
Ex. LR- (-2)
LR2- (-0)
RC- (-0)

Final Score: 180/180

Other than my experimental section, I was satisfied with today. I consistently miss more on my Ex. versus my other sections, no matter the type or its placement, but I chalk that up to me knowing which section it is as well as usually using random Ex. I think it helps to throw in random Ex. like today, PT 56 and Ex. from PT 41 because they are fairly different in composition and can serve to jar you enough to make you think and not just get in a mode of thought that can easily screw you over on the real test if they hit you with a piece from left-field.


seksy, you're almost full power... you'll defeat Rita in no time Tommy

I'm starting to feel a lot better about RC from my more meaningful drilling i've been doing too. Slowing down and writing out actual notes instead of just mindlessly underlining stuff really seems to be making a huge difference. I'm also writing down the actual line that has the justification for my answer next to it, unless its a more general question of course.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby GabeQuixote » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:57 pm

Mrizza getting a 178. Lena getting a 180.

I feel kinda stoopid. :|

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Cobretti » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:00 pm

GabeQuixote wrote:Mrizza getting a 178. Lena getting a 180.

I feel kinda stoopid. :|


Just stick to drilling for a week, then do another PT. You gotta get your confidence back, and the best way to do that is to focus on drilling and not worry about scores. Just focus on improving on specific question types. You're fine dude, just gotta keep your head on straight.

And for the love of god no more blowing through your last section because you're excited to see your score!

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby GabeQuixote » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:02 pm

mrizza wrote:
GabeQuixote wrote:Mrizza getting a 178. Lena getting a 180.

I feel kinda stoopid. :|


Just stick to drilling for a week, then do another PT. You gotta get your confidence back, and the best way to do that is to focus on drilling and not worry about scores. Just focus on improving on specific question types. You're fine dude, just gotta keep your head on straight.

And for the love of god no more blowing through your last section because you're excited to see your score!


I'm reading the Manhattan books, then drilling RC and LG daily.

For LG I plan to do it, then watch those online tutorials, then re-doing each LG. I keep running out of time on LG.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Alorain » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:06 pm

School is being a bitch this week. Its really eating into my study time.

I've only managed 1 PT and about 3 sections worth of LG drilling since I started on friday. Fuckkkk time is ticking.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Lenahan3 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:14 pm

What are people thinking of doing on their "off days?"

I'm gathering everything I can that I think I need and going to go over sections, practicing what my system on each section and not worrying so much about time. For RC, I'm going to do as I did today (and as Mrizza is doing), which is write a summary/main point next to each paragraph; underlining never did anything for me. Slowing down for LR and making sure of each question before moving on, and just drilling the FXCK out of LG. I have almost every LG ever made so I'm really going to kill it on the old games. I just don't want to experience burnout, so I'll only do this on my days I don't have PT's.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby GabeQuixote » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:16 pm

Lenahan3 wrote:What are people thinking of doing on their "off days?"

I'm gathering everything I can that I think I need and going to go over sections, practicing what my system on each section and not worrying so much about time. For RC, I'm going to do as I did today (and as Mrizza is doing), which is write a summary/main point next to each paragraph; underlining never did anything for me. Slowing down for LR and making sure of each question before moving on, and just drilling the FXCK out of LG. I have almost every LG ever made so I'm really going to kill it on the old games. I just don't want to experience burnout, so I'll only do this on my days I don't have PT's.


What days are you doing PTs?

Some of us work 8 to 6, 40 hour workweek jerbs.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby Alorain » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:23 pm

Between varsity athletics, a heavy 4th year workload, and full-time LSAT studying, I might just have a nervous breakdown this month

If you don't hear from me for a while, don't worry, I'll just be interned in a psych ward.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby GabeQuixote » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:32 pm

Alorain wrote:Between varsity athletics, a heavy 4th year workload, and full-time LSAT studying, I might just have a nervous breakdown this month

If you don't hear from me for a while, don't worry, I'll just be interned in a psych ward.


What varsity sport?

Also -- is it just me or do I think that sounds like a load of weight when compared to working 40 hours in a managerial role?

And goofing off and risking termination because TLS haunts your mind. :-/

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby HawkeyeGirl » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:35 pm

Only real waiver I got today was duke priority track thing. 10 days for a decision is pretty sweet, though I think I'd be in the no pile...

Edit: also got ucla but I don't count that as legit since I'd never go there. (la = driving, which I'm afraid of, not commenting on quality of school)

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby sinfiery » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:38 pm

GabeQuixote wrote:
What days are you doing PTs?

Some of us work 8 to 6, 40 hour workweek jerbs.

I only worked 25-33 hours a week whilst studying which gave me the perfect amount of off-days to do PTs (~3 per week).
Would drill a bit/review mistakes on work-days too.
I didn't really do much but work and LSAT. Sanity be damned.


I also asked for 7 days off before the test to get everything up to gear which was awesome.


I would advise you to do the same, but ya know..managerial role vs menial labor job. Vacation days to burn?

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby GabeQuixote » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:38 pm

HawkeyeGirl wrote:Only real waiver I got today was duke priority track thing. 10 days for a decision is pretty sweet, though I think I'd be in the no pile...

Edit: also got ucla but I don't count that as legit since I'd never go there. (la = driving, which I'm afraid of, not commenting on quality of school)


Jeez. How good are your stats?

:(

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby HawkeyeGirl » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:39 pm

Nothing wrong with taking a pt at 1130 at night...that's how I do it...

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby HawkeyeGirl » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:41 pm

Gabe: 3.67 169

Phone won't let me quote sorry.

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Re: December 2012 Re-takers

Postby 99.9luft » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:46 pm

GabeQuixote wrote:
Lenahan3 wrote:What are people thinking of doing on their "off days?"

I'm gathering everything I can that I think I need and going to go over sections, practicing what my system on each section and not worrying so much about time. For RC, I'm going to do as I did today (and as Mrizza is doing), which is write a summary/main point next to each paragraph; underlining never did anything for me. Slowing down for LR and making sure of each question before moving on, and just drilling the FXCK out of LG. I have almost every LG ever made so I'm really going to kill it on the old games. I just don't want to experience burnout, so I'll only do this on my days I don't have PT's.


What days are you doing PTs?

Some of us work 8 to 6, 40 hour workweek jerbs.


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