October 2012 -- ASIA

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October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby cookiejar1 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:20 am

Noticed some of you taking the test abroad so here goes:

Any particular differences between the asian test and the domestic one? For the retakers (I'm looking at you, person with the pokemon avatar), anything you were surprised about the first time you took it?

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby defdef » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:49 am

i have only taken it in japan so i don't know what is different from the states but, it was a bit strict but otherwise a great test taking environment. multiple proctors for a single room, each person has their own wide table to themselves, relatively quick starting time, no noises or distractions, not too hot/cold.

the only thing is that the entrance is on the backside of the building which is a little difficult, but i didn't see anyone who had a particularly hard time finding it.

i'll be there again this weekend for the test + burrito in azabu juban afterward. maybe a beer if my wife/kid decide to stay an extra night in osaka.

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby sokomofo » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:11 am

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby timeless » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:24 am

thank you to above posters
I am curious about this topic as well.
Would any of you who have ever taken LSAT abroad say there were any differences from the exams in the 60s?
I have read some June 2012 threads, and the consensus seems to be that RC and LR were on the easier side whereas games were on the difficult side.
I am curious to know bc some of the more recent exams have RC sections (pointing at 63 and 65) that are a notch above even the infamous, difficult passages from the 50s and LRs (pointing at 65) that do not neatly fall under our (at least my) pattern recognition techniques.
These differences seem to make a lot of difference for not only myself, but also for those I have talked to who are taking this exam abroad in asia as well.
thanks in advance!

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby sokomofo » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:39 am

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby defdef » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:54 am

timeless wrote:thank you to above posters
I am curious about this topic as well.
Would any of you who have ever taken LSAT abroad say there were any differences from the exams in the 60s?
I have read some June 2012 threads, and the consensus seems to be that RC and LR were on the easier side whereas games were on the difficult side.
I am curious to know bc some of the more recent exams have RC sections (pointing at 63 and 65) that are a notch above even the infamous, difficult passages from the 50s and LRs (pointing at 65) that do not neatly fall under our (at least my) pattern recognition techniques.
These differences seem to make a lot of difference for not only myself, but also for those I have talked to who are taking this exam abroad in asia as well.
thanks in advance!



i agree with soko. i took the june 2012 here and thought overall it was comparable to a moderate 60s test (like 64 for me but i guess that's different for everyone).

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby cookiejar1 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:38 am

sokomofo wrote:international test takers get one of the previous undisclosed LSAT exams. the last time i took it in june 2010, i found out that that exam was identical to the february 2009 one. the normal curve applies to us, so we're neither at an advantage nor at a disadvantage


I didn't know this... that's kind of interesting. If it's a previous exam -- will we not get the extra pages for our LG? Also... I'm assuming you took the Feb. '09 exam in the US and then took it AGAIN abroad? This is incredible and highly highly advantageous if you could figure out the LSAC pattern.

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby timeless » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:44 am

Thanks guys~~

Yea i was just thinking that even though these tests are equated different ppl are particularly vulnerable to a certain section being difficult. For instance, its RC in my case. Id consistently get 2-3 on a typical set, but give me something like PT63 or 65, i'd fall to -7 or 8. But on the other hand LG, even though i had rough times on certain sets awhile ago, i have been 0 or -1ing and -3 at the most. Its that kind of difference im talking about...haha
Thats why when the guy/girl with the pokemon avatar said LR and RC were on the easier side while the LG was difficult, I kinda had my hopes up.
Anyways it also seems like the international ppl are getting the two question stimulus in their LR sections. This disappeared in the 40s....
Though i doubt internationals would get anything that old, would this mean that we would at least get something that is several years old?

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby timeless » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:45 am

cookiejar1 wrote:
sokomofo wrote:international test takers get one of the previous undisclosed LSAT exams. the last time i took it in june 2010, i found out that that exam was identical to the february 2009 one. the normal curve applies to us, so we're neither at an advantage nor at a disadvantage


I didn't know this... that's kind of interesting. If it's a previous exam -- will we not get the extra pages for our LG? Also... I'm assuming you took the Feb. '09 exam in the US and then took it AGAIN abroad? This is incredible and highly highly advantageous if you could figure out the LSAC pattern.


I mean that can always modify the format with the same questions....
Anyways i dont think theres a pattern to it...cuz the October 2010 exam in Asia was the same one as Feb 2005 ...minus the A B passage

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby defdef » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:58 am

june 2012 had extra room for LG (overseas)

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby sokomofo » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:13 am

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby cookiejar1 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:54 am

Since this is an undisclosed test will you even know your raw score or how many you've missed per section?

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby sokomofo » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:59 am

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby togepi » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:06 am

cookiejar1 wrote:Noticed some of you taking the test abroad so here goes:

Any particular differences between the asian test and the domestic one? For the retakers (I'm looking at you, person with the pokemon avatar), anything you were surprised about the first time you took it?


Got called out haha. Yeah, I took it in June 2012 in South Korea. They used the new LG set up with all the extra space, so it was definitely modernized. The test center was great, they even had an auditorium where you could put your backpack, cellphone, etc. They only thing that I didn't like was that I marked being left handed and they put me next to the wall, where my left hand rubs up against. Also, I only got one small desk, but there were rows of people that were allotted double desks for whatever reason. Other than that small disparity, I felt that everything was business as usual.

HTH

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby cookiejar1 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:38 am

So I'm under the assumption that all ASIA tests are re-administrations of older undisclosed tests. Which means that they're a couple of years behind the current domestic administration.

I was reading this thread (viewtopic.php?f=6&t=195346) about "if this rule is replaced by another" LG questions and I realized that this is my vulnerable spot in LG sections. I only seem to remember encountering these kinds of questions in the very recent PTs...

Since the asian administration is an older test... you think there's a good chance that we'll avoid it? I'll be a very happy camper if we do. Guess we'll find out in a 19(?) hours.

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby defdef » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:24 am

yeah i think it's impossible to know. best to not get pysched out over it and just treat it like a normal PT

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby eosphoros » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:12 pm

Came out of the one held in Sydney an hour ago. Took me a while to get into it but finally got my rhythm although I thought the third game (plays and actors) was horrible. I assume all countries in similar timezones took the same test?

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby togepi » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:40 am

Yeah I had that LG game with actors and plays or whatever it was. Thought it was pretty tough.

I had LR RC LR LR LG

I hope my second LR was experimental because I got like 10 answers of the same letter haha.
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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby defdef » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:01 am

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=195472 JOIN US THERE togepi

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Re: October 2012 -- ASIA

Postby togepi » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:27 am

defdef wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=195472 JOIN US THERE togepi


thanks man, will do




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