Value of drilling LR by question type

Locke89
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Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby Locke89 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:01 pm

For those of you that have elected to drill LR questions sorted by type....

Do you feel that this has significantly improved your LR ability, especially if it was a weak area?

Also is it worth compromising test questions if you still were planning on doing earlier preptests (1-40 range)

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby BrianGriffintheDog » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:25 pm

I thought it was worth it. You can keep on doing timed PTs as much as you want, but it won't solve your weaknesses if you keep on missing the same questions.

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby Locke89 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:41 pm

I get what you're saying but would you say it is significantly more effective than say thoroughly reviewing incorrect answers from preptests and documenting missed questions by type and just reviewing relevant sections in the LRB? I have been improving LR and my weaknesses are not really showing as much of a pattern as they were before. (EG. I was noticing a trend on doing poorly on parallel reasoning and flaw but improved and I hardly miss those any more)

The main thing I would like to know is if by repeatedly doing the same types of problem you are better able to see the patterns in question types and it reflects onto timed preptest scores.

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby kaseyb002 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:03 pm

Locke89 wrote:I get what you're saying but would you say it is significantly more effective than say thoroughly reviewing incorrect answers from preptests and documenting missed questions by type and just reviewing relevant sections in the LRB? I have been improving LR and my weaknesses are not really showing as much of a pattern as they were before. (EG. I was noticing a trend on doing poorly on parallel reasoning and flaw but improved and I hardly miss those any more)

The main thing I would like to know is if by repeatedly doing the same types of problem you are better able to see the patterns in question types and it reflects onto timed preptest scores.


Yes, I have personally seen improvement by going by question type. By doing the same type of question 100x times, it just gets burned into your mind as how to approach that type of question. That's what made it second nature to me.

After going through most of the Kaplan Mastery by type, here are what I think are the major divisions based on feel. Within each line denotes the question types I feel like have the same...well..."feel".


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Flaw
Necessary Assumption
Strengthen/Weaken
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Sufficient
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Main Point
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Inference/Must Be True
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Method
Role
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Resolve the paradox
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Point of Disagreement
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Parallel, although it feels kind of similar to method and inference at the same time.


Point being, just about each question type has a distinct feel to it, and after going by question type I feel like I approach things more mechanically and have a better idea of what to expect. I find myself FLYING through the first half of LR sections.

Also, review has made a huge difference. That's where I really start to see the pattern of tricks that the test writers use. You start to get really good at spotting bad answers quickly. However, I'm no expert so take it for what it's worth.

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby Locke89 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:12 pm

Okay, I've been convinced that drilling by type is useful. The biggest question I have now is whether it matters or not if I have done the questions before. Should I buy a volume grouping LR drawn from questions on preptests that I have already done or is it more important that I haven't seen these before? Or does it even matter?

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby Triveal » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:45 pm

Absolutely doesn't matter if you've done it before, and in fact might be better because it forces you to review things you missed or guessed and got lucky on.

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby cc.celina » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:58 pm

Triveal wrote:Absolutely doesn't matter if you've done it before, and in fact might be better because it forces you to review things you missed or guessed and got lucky on.

Agreed, and if you get a re-take question wrong, you know you REALLY need to work on that concept rather than dismissing it as a silly mistake. The Cambridge LSAT packages are great. I used one when I had trouble with strengthen questions.

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby esther0123 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:34 am

It definitely helped me I think. I am not where I want to be, but I bought the Cambridge pack, have gone through about half of it, and i went from some disastrous -10 per section to -4 per section, some due to stupid mistakes, timing, etc. It's very tedious, and I was very skeptical too because it was so damn time consuming, but you gotta do what you gotta do!

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby Cerebro » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:38 pm

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby Locke89 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:23 pm

Cerebro wrote:Image



LOL that is hilarious. Did you make that?

I'm not too worried. I can always fall back on my engineering degree. :D

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby North » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:44 pm

Cerebro wrote:Image

Lol.

171, would recommend.

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby lederhosen » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:57 am

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Re: Value of drilling LR by question type

Postby Locke89 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:16 pm

Thanks for the advice and insight from everyone. I think I'm going to buy the Cambridge Lsat grouped lr from tests 21-40.
Or is there a better package ( or equivalent and cheaper) from another company? the one I saw on Amazon was like $60-70.




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