October 2012 Retakers

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby RCinDNA » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:44 pm

Wormfather wrote:After a shitty day of prep (tired n shit) and less than 72 hours before d-day I finally realized I'm in too deep...

So I'm watching Brickleberry (funny believe it or not) and one of the guys, trying to prove that the girl he just slept with wasnt a whore says the following: "if she was a prostitute, why didn't I wear a condom?"

To which I start laughing but within seconds I'm writing the conditional in my head. After thinking about it, this would probably not be a weaken/strengthen question but a flaw or parallel flaw one.

Then again, given the conversation it could be a point at issue question.

See? In too deep.

Then again it could also be an assumption, if it was rephrased from a rhetorical question to a statement.


Sounds like a sufficient assumption question: Prostitute -> wear condom; contrapositive: didn't wear condom -> not prostitute. Agreed that it could also be parallel the flaw with some form of mistaken negation as the flaw, though.

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby Ruxin1 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:34 pm

Now I want to booze with some tanguaray...waiting til saturday at 4 pm tho lol

ETA: NOT PROSTITUTES THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby dba415 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:26 pm

Chambo wrote:
dynamic28 wrote:What's the typical point drop for practice tests vs. the real thing? If memory serves me right, a 2-4 test day point drop is typical, right?


I'm not sure what is *typical* per se but it isn't surprising to see something like a 0-3 point drop. It probably depends on a lot on how close your PT conditions are to what you'll see on test day.

My PT conditions are drastically different.

Using my phone instead of a analog watch for time

All my PTs have been at night

Hopefully my experience already taking the real thing will mask some of those concerns a bit.

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby WDH » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:37 pm

I just finished PT 66. Wasn't as different from the 50's as I thought it might be which is a relief.

RC +25 (-2) GREAT for me. RC has been a struggle before, but I may have figured it out this past weekend.
LR1 +24 (-1) Good for me, I seem to have averaged -2 before.
LG +23 (-0) I have demanded perfection on this, but it's not unusual for a (-1) Time was a bit of a concern today.
LR2 +21 (-5) Don't know what happened there...

Raw 93
Converted 173

I don't know what to think. If I get above a 170 I will be ecstatic. Hell I thought a couple of months ago if I got above a 166 I would be psyched. Now that might be a disappointment.

Time was more of an issue on this one than others. The first 3 sections all came in too close. And that last section might be indicative of some burnout towards the end. I hope that's not the case.

Any stats on when the experimental rears it's head? That could be a difference for me, although I hope not.

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby tekumamba » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:25 am

just a few more days folks... keep going strong!

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby chadbrochill » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:53 am

Did another PT today, might try to do a triple tomorrow :shock:

PT44:
RC:-3
LR:-1
LG:-0
LR:-2
Scaled Score: 174

Not sure if LR2 was especially difficult or the fatigue just hit me like a brick wall but I was extremely slow and made a few lazy guesses towards the end that I should've marked for a 2nd look. Final 2 days to get last minute drilling in!

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby Br3v » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:57 am

Did drilling tonight just to stay sharp.

Pt 65 LG: -1 but I went 2 mins over ahhhh. Tomorrow my pt I will be sure to be quick
Pt 65 LR2:-3, both I understood the correct answer at second look. Also finished this section in 27:30 though!

My last PT tomorrow, PT 66. Wow, can't believe it's all almost over finally. It's been a long road, time to show all the work Saturday!

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby defdef » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:24 am

PT64

LR: -3
LG: -2
LR: -1
RC: -1

raw: 94/101, 175

overall, i thought that this test was pretty even in terms of difficulty. everything was moderate with nothing standing out as extremely easy or extremely difficult

taking PT66 tomorrow for my last one and then drilling on sat, and test on sun (japan). if i can achieve at least a 173 i will be absolutely ecstatic. been getting my sleeping pattern down in the last few days. goddamnit i am ready to destroy this test and never look back

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby seacow » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:00 am

Had a similar "shoot me in the face" experience yesterday with PT66. Tanked RC.

After feeling terrible yesterday I chilled out and read about some techniques to help deal with nerves. This morning I've been visualizing. I really feel like it's helping. The reasoning it gave is because our mind sees no difference between visualizing something and actually experiencing something. Word.

I also have been harking back to the point, if you could do something different on test day to improve your score why haven't you been doing it all along? Don't put forth any more effort on Saturday, y'all. As we practiced.

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby NoodleyOne » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:20 am

Foul shots. We've done this dozens of times before.

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby Br3v » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:20 am

NoodleyOne wrote:Foul shots. We've done this dozens of times before.


Nice

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby cahwc12 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:49 am

99.9luft wrote:just logged in to say that the ninja question on PT 66 had me smiling all the way into the next question. Thank you, LSAC.

oh, the simple joys of LSAT-prepping.


I actually laughed out loud at the test center and was grinning for a minute or so after imagining the mid-20's PhD philosophy guy who probably wrote it...

I wasn't laughing when I ended up missing it and the question after it though out of sheer stupidity though. Saturday I shall have my revenge! :twisted:

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby CardozoLaw09 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:07 pm

Wormfather wrote: also that it is not ok to spend 4 minutes on a question, ever.


Just curious, was it question 18 on LG? That Q took me fucking forever

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby jjrialva » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:46 pm

Wormfather 158 won't happen again... it was a fluke

I just corrected yesterdays 165 and I read about 6 questions wrong. I missed the "except" and in "could be false" questions selected 2 that MUST be false instead of could...

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby rakeshow » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:48 pm

Wormfather wrote:
No it was actually two LR questions back to back that took almost 8 minutes of the clock.

The one about about pluto and the one about brain diets.

The one about how life began was also a bitch.


seems like you have issues with paradox questions? I just read through them and think "could this explain why both things could happen?"
usually i get it down to 2 and then compare them against the stimulus. this worked especially well for Q15 about carpal tunnel. had it down to A and B right off the bat and then re-read stimulus to see that it said "for those who do simliiar amounts of typing" which eliminated A.

I used to have problems with paradox questions too but they all seem to be pretty similar now

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby WokeUpInACar » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:04 pm

Took PT 64 this morning.

LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -1
RC: -4

Scaled: 177

I was getting pretty excited when scoring it because I only missed one in the first 90 questions, but the last two RC passages got me good. I really wish I could figure out how to squeeze out a few more seconds here and there on RC because I ALWAYS use the full 35 minutes and am often rushed on the last passage. Also had way too much trouble with the cycling magazine game and used every last second of LG time, which is quite rare for me, but I guess I shouldn't worry about LG when I've missed maybe 2 questions on my last 15 PTs.

Also I thought question 14 on LR2 was really fucking dumb.

I'm quite happy with my score though and if I hit anywhere near it on test day I'll be ecstatic.

Just realized that I'm (*hopefully*) going to be done with this test forever in ~48 hours which is pretttttty exciting :mrgreen:

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby Ruxin1 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:05 pm

WokeUpInACar wrote:Took PT 64 this morning.

LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -1
RC: -4

Scaled: 177

I was getting pretty excited when scoring it because I only missed one in the first 90 questions, but the last two RC passages got me good. I really wish I could figure out how to squeeze out a few more seconds here and there on RC because I ALWAYS use the full 35 minutes and am often rushed on the last passage. Also had way too much trouble with the cycling magazine game and used every last second of LG time, which is quite rare for me, but I guess I shouldn't worry about LG when I've missed maybe 2 questions on my last 15 PTs.

Also I thought question 14 on LR2 was really fucking dumb.

I'm quite happy with my score though and if I hit anywhere near it on test day I'll be ecstatic.

Just realized that I'm (*hopefully*) going to be done with this test forever in ~48 hours which is pretttttty exciting :mrgreen:


Goodluck Bro! See you on the other side 8)

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby WokeUpInACar » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:27 pm

Also here are my reactions to possible scores in gif form...

Below 170: Image

170-171: Image

172-174: Image

175+: ImageImage
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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby chadbrochill » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:39 pm

I love these, haha @ cookie monster
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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby sinfiery » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:54 pm

Well, PT#66 today...

RC: -7
LR: -1
LG: -0
LR: -3
89 raw
169 scaled

Terrible last PT before test day...
Of course, RC is the one section that swings my score...
Worst part is, although rushed, I felt no significant difficulty in the section while taking it.

On top of it all, LG and RC took me just right up to 35 minutes to finish again.

At least I can be confident in my LR sections..

Time to review and get ready for Saturday. It is what it is. I know I can kill this test, I just need to perform when the time comes.

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby CardozoLaw09 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:10 pm

lol @ the .gif for [172 - 174]

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby Kaytei » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:25 pm

I've been PTing terribly all week and today I finally got a score that restored some of my confidence.
So what's everyone doing for tomorrow? PT or no?

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby sinfiery » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:36 pm

Kaytei wrote:I've been PTing terribly all week and today I finally got a score that restored some of my confidence.
So what's everyone doing for tomorrow? PT or no?


I was definite on no PT tomorrow and light drilling if even that but now I think I may retake PT 66 untimed + light drilling

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby NoodleyOne » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:00 pm

PT 66: The Revenge
Recent June
LR1: -1 -2
LR2: -1 -2
RC: -2 -2
LG: -0 -5
Raw: 96/100 89/100
Scaled: 177 169

A few disclaimers. First, I took this in June but haven't looked at it since. I put the June score side by side with the retake. Also, and I don't know what effect this had (I'm going to guess a negative one), I haven't slept in about 35 hours due to working graveyard last night and studying for a test this morning. I took it in the group study floor of the library, as well. I'm sure those two factors would mitigate any advantage I received from an un-reviewed retake. Last five tests? 178, 178, 177, 178, 177. Dat consistency. Oh, and this was also after a history exam... Feeling really good.

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Re: October 2012 Retakers

Postby ALgooner » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:34 pm

Took PT 66 today. Really bummed with what was supposed to be my last PT before Sat.

PT 66

RC:-5
LR:-4
LG:-9
LR:-5

Scaled: 162

My LG is just out of control. And I have studied so hard for them. All I have done for the past couple weeks is take PT's and drill LG (in addition to spending the entire month of August on LG). This is the lowest I've scored on a PT in about 2 weeks. I am now considering taking my last available PT (65) tonight in hopes of restoring some confidence before Sat. Of course, there's always the risk that I will do poorly on that one as well...

Any advice?




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