Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby AffordablePrep » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:45 pm

JohnV wrote:
MavEryck wrote:I'm reminded of a guy that once told me that he was the smartest guy that I had ever met. (btw, he was an RF engineer)

So, I was very quiet for a few moments and then asked him a question that would give him a chance to prove his brilliance to me. :roll:

I asked him how many digits of Pi he knew. This would show me the degree of accuracy of his calculations. (i.e. using 3.14 will not return the accuracy of using 3.14159)

Of course, with him being the self-proclaimed "smartest guy that I had ever met" and an RF engineer, I assumed he would rattle off several digits of Pi. After he got to 3.14159... he started making up numbers until he got to about 20 decimal places.

He stood there with a smug look on his face. I could not contain my laughter!

When he asked me, "what's so funny?" I responded that he was making up a majority of the digits.

Then he asked, "how would YOU know?"

Unfortunately for him, he was not the "smartest guy that I had ever met."

I used to hang out with a group of "brainiacs" that would (accurately) recite 20 decimals of Pi, for fun. One of the things I learned from them was to perform calculations using 3.14159265358979323... from memory. I never did remember 20 decimals but I remembered enough of them to know this guy was full of B.S. when he started making up digits!

I love to hang out in groups of people where I'm the least intelligent of the bunch. I tend to learn quite a bit in situations like that. One thing I would never do is begin by telling any group of people how smart I am.

"We're each born with two ears and one mouth...to listen twice as much as we speak." (I stole this last line from someone wise...Confucius or some guy with grey hair) :wink:

I tend to believe the least intelligent person on this site is probably very intelligent... So, yes... I believe you (OP) are probably very intelligent.

Just sayin'.


Reminds me of a girl I met. She was also a self-proclaimed genius and thought she was the most attractive person in the room to boot. The second time I met her she told me "Most people remember me because I'm so interesting." I thought she was joking but I quickly learned she was dead serious. Started talking about how she was going to be a Senator and how she tutored kids in math when she was younger. Then she brought up the fact that she was a strong believer in Astrology and I couldn't help but be reminded of Dunning-Kruger. She did something like what you did to me (even though I didn't claim to be a genius or even intelligent, I think she just wanted to show she was smarter than me), she started rattling off a theatre-major's vocab list and seeing if I knew what they meant lol.

Gotta hand it to her parents. Many beautiful women have no confidence. That right there is good upbringing or a lot of compensation for a poor upbringing.... terrible person though, but maybe a good upbringing.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby roaringeagle » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:58 pm

I believe that it is very possible to be smart and suck at standardized testing. I know people who went to crappy law schools and came out on top thanks to their networking and talent.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby dingbat » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:01 am

roaringeagle wrote:I believe that it is very possible to be smart and suck at standardized testing. I know people who went to crappy law schools and came out on top thanks to their networking and talent.

Networking and being smart are two entirely different things

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Ded Precedent » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:06 am

roaringeagle wrote:I believe that it is very possible to be smart and suck at standardized testing. I know people who went to crappy law schools and came out on top thanks to their networking and talent.

So I see you are trying to convince yourself that you will be ok. Good luck with that.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Aequitas_ » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:44 am

Lol @ thinking memorization of pi can give insight as to how intelligent someone is.

Secondly, you trolls make me laugh.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby JohnV » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:52 am

AffordablePrep wrote:Gotta hand it to her parents. Many beautiful women have no confidence. That right there is good upbringing or a lot of compensation for a poor upbringing.... terrible person though, but maybe a good upbringing.


She wasn't beautiful. I wouldn't say she was ugly, she may have had a small weight issue, but she definitely wasn't as attractive as she thought she was. Although my bias probably made her even less attractive to me. She did say that her parents/friends/everyone always told her how smart/attractive/brilliant she was though I don't remember the context of that statement, I do remember it was odd that she brought it up like that was a good reason to behave like that.


JohnV

That chick sounds like a riot! LOL

Not only is she the best looking person in the room...

She's a genius and super interesting!


If only any of it was true. I really can't even accurately describe this person because the most revolting part was her attitude.
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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby PDaddy » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:56 am

Aequitas_ wrote:This is going to sound arrogant, but I'm sure others can understand where I'm coming from. I'd like to think I'm pretty intelligent. My IQ is in the top 99th percentile and have always been in advanced classes/curriculums "curricula" and have always had very high marks without much effort.


It doesn't sound arrogant at all. Many intelligent people perform poorly on the LSAT. Some people improve (with varying degrees of success), and a few don't. Don't beat yourself up over it. Just work to improve.

Note: I am sorry, but I just had to correct the use of the word "curriculums". I also hate it when people use the word "addendums". I believe addendum in plural form is "addenda". I know it was likely the result of typing too quickly to get your thoughts out. We all do it. :wink:

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby fronkman » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:00 am

dingbat wrote:
roaringeagle wrote:I believe that it is very possible to be smart and suck at standardized testing. I know people who went to crappy law schools and came out on top thanks to their networking and talent.

Networking and being smart are two entirely different things

Social intelligence brah, it's a thing.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby jgloster » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:01 am

roaringeagle wrote:I believe that it is very possible to be smart and suck at standardized testing. I know people who went to crappy law schools and came out on top thanks to their networking and talent.


Nope, not true. Read the Bell Curve or the G-factor.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby bruss » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:26 am

Self study. Logic games bible. Logical reasoning bible. Manhattan RC. For Rc make sure you read passage in less than 3mins.

Pike guide that we all use: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657

Fuck a course get a private tutor if you need. I just use the free sources from posters and http://www.manhattanlsat.com/forums/

Start studying now and following pike guide

my stats:Dia 143. Pting 167. IQ 130+ iq doesn't really mean shit if you get tired during the test and other variables.

Edit:Good Luck and happy studying
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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby TheRainMan » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:43 am

Ded Precedent wrote:
roaringeagle wrote:I believe that it is very possible to be smart and suck at standardized testing. I know people who went to crappy law schools and came out on top thanks to their networking and talent.

So I see you are trying to convince yourself that you will be ok. Good luck with that.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby AffordablePrep » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:06 am

I don't think that doing well on the LSAT means you're smart, but I think it is a necessary condition to being a genius, at least in terms of how I define what a genius is. The LSAT is a test of analytical thinking, which is one part of intelligence. It tests this pretty well, and the LSAT is more of an IQ kind of test than the SAT or MCAT that can purely be memorized. To me, a genius is someone who is very smart in many different areas.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Aequitas_ » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:54 pm

bump

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby fatduck » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:58 pm

Aequitas_ wrote:bump

how's your prep going, OP? up to 50 digits of pi yet?

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Ohiobumpkin » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:02 pm

fatduck wrote:
Aequitas_ wrote:bump

how's your prep going, OP? up to 50 digits of pi yet?


you made me lol you creepy duck!

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Glaucon » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:34 am

If the OP is interested, a LSAT score of 163 qualifies you for MENSA; not 167.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Scotusnerd » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:34 pm

Glaucon wrote:If the OP is interested, a LSAT score of 163 qualifies you for MENSA; not 167.



http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifyingscores/#prep

It's not the number, it's the percentile.

Also...I don't know why people insist on intelligence being only defined as one way ("smart" or "dumb".) Empirical evidence is pretty obviously to the contrary.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby TERS » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:04 pm

I find it almost impossible to believe that a 99th-percentile IQ cannot, after studying, break 80th-percentile on the LSAT. No. Have an official IQ test taken again so you can find out that's the problem.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Nova » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:28 pm

^^ Right, the 95th percentile. So, i guess its a 168 now. But whatever, Mensa is a joke.

OP, youre not as smart as you think you are. IDK why you bumped this.

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

Postby Glaucon » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:00 pm

Scotusnerd wrote:
Glaucon wrote:If the OP is interested, a LSAT score of 163 qualifies you for MENSA; not 167.



http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifyingscores/#prep

It's not the number, it's the percentile.

Also...I don't know why people insist on intelligence being only defined as one way ("smart" or "dumb".) Empirical evidence is pretty obviously to the contrary.



Whooops. I was told by someone in MENSA that it was a 163. Shoulda probably verified it myself :P

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Re: Intelligent, but just can't seem to score high on LSAT

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