Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Who would score highest on the LSAT?

Friedrich Nietzsche
9
5%
Ludwig Wittgenstein
41
22%
Immanuel Kant
44
23%
Socrates
27
14%
Ayn Rand
22
12%
Aristotle
24
13%
Karl Popper
4
2%
Karl Marx
7
4%
Richard Rorty
4
2%
Gottlob Frege
7
4%
 
Total votes: 189

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby RedBirds2011 » Mon May 14, 2012 12:51 pm

clseller wrote:Jesus would get a 190 on the LSAT


:lol:

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Postby RedBirds2011 » Mon May 14, 2012 12:55 pm

Lyov Myshkin wrote:nietzsche's probably the only person on the list who is dumb enough to copy off of rand.

where's hume? i'd say the guy who invented 'correlation is not causation' flaw deserves to be on this list.


Lolwut?

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby Campagnolo » Mon May 14, 2012 12:57 pm

PARTY wrote:
Odd Future Wolf Gang wrote:
Campagnolo wrote:
Odd Future Wolf Gang wrote:Where does MARTIN HEIDEGGER go on this list?


Right damn near the top, unquestionably.



Are you trolling or serious?

Give me five cogent reasons why he's near the top.


clearly you haven't read being and time.


I feel Being and Time, although one work, counts as two, per the title.

As for reasons, 3, 4, and 5:

3: He has the deepest understanding of exactly what it is to be a human in the world in the way I don't think no one else has, not even Kant. When you read about readiness to hand and dasein, you can't help but see that this is the proper way to think about our own experiences.

4: His reading of Aristotle is unmatched. In particular, his understanding of Metaphysics Book Z is just crazy. I struggled literally for an entire year with book Z, and it took about a week of Heidegger to make it all click into place.

5: He is, I think, the first person to really get beyond metatphysics. Nietzsche tried, he saw the problem quite clearly, but Heidegger took him up and went all the way.

Whatever his personal failings, he was a great figure in our tradition.

To the things themselves!

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby Lyov Myshkin » Mon May 14, 2012 1:04 pm

hume was, i believe, the first to argue that causation was inductively derived (through correlation) and kant's first critique is dedicated to trying to prove the validity of deriving causality as a general cognitive rule.

the nietzsche/rand comment was intended to be taken as a hypothetical and non-literal statement.

at least, i hope one would tend to interpret it that way. after all, we are currently discussing who, hypothetically and non-literally would have scored best on the lsat from a set of philosophers who couldn't have possibly have taken the lsat.

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Postby stillwater » Mon May 14, 2012 1:20 pm

Campagnolo wrote:
I feel Being and Time, although one work, counts as two, per the title.

As for reasons, 3, 4, and 5:

3: He has the deepest understanding of exactly what it is to be a human in the world in the way I don't think no one else has, not even Kant. When you read about readiness to hand and dasein, you can't help but see that this is the proper way to think about our own experiences.

4: His reading of Aristotle is unmatched. In particular, his understanding of Metaphysics Book Z is just crazy. I struggled literally for an entire year with book Z, and it took about a week of Heidegger to make it all click into place.

5: He is, I think, the first person to really get beyond metatphysics. Nietzsche tried, he saw the problem quite clearly, but Heidegger took him up and went all the way.

Whatever his personal failings, he was a great figure in our tradition.

To the things themselves!


Heidegger also has a bunch of excellent essays (on art, technology, etc.). I think his work on Technology is actually brilliant and particularly relevant today.

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby jkpolk » Mon May 14, 2012 1:27 pm

stillwater wrote:
Campagnolo wrote:
I feel Being and Time, although one work, counts as two, per the title.

As for reasons, 3, 4, and 5:

3: He has the deepest understanding of exactly what it is to be a human in the world in the way I don't think no one else has, not even Kant. When you read about readiness to hand and dasein, you can't help but see that this is the proper way to think about our own experiences.

4: His reading of Aristotle is unmatched. In particular, his understanding of Metaphysics Book Z is just crazy. I struggled literally for an entire year with book Z, and it took about a week of Heidegger to make it all click into place.

5: He is, I think, the first person to really get beyond metatphysics. Nietzsche tried, he saw the problem quite clearly, but Heidegger took him up and went all the way.

Whatever his personal failings, he was a great figure in our tradition.

To the things themselves!


Heidegger also has a bunch of excellent essays (on art, technology, etc.). I think his work on Technology is actually brilliant and particularly relevant today.


If anyone in this thread actually understands being and time i'd be the MOST impressed.

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby PARTY » Mon May 14, 2012 1:27 pm

polkij333 wrote:
stillwater wrote:
Campagnolo wrote:
I feel Being and Time, although one work, counts as two, per the title.

As for reasons, 3, 4, and 5:

3: He has the deepest understanding of exactly what it is to be a human in the world in the way I don't think no one else has, not even Kant. When you read about readiness to hand and dasein, you can't help but see that this is the proper way to think about our own experiences.

4: His reading of Aristotle is unmatched. In particular, his understanding of Metaphysics Book Z is just crazy. I struggled literally for an entire year with book Z, and it took about a week of Heidegger to make it all click into place.

5: He is, I think, the first person to really get beyond metatphysics. Nietzsche tried, he saw the problem quite clearly, but Heidegger took him up and went all the way.

Whatever his personal failings, he was a great figure in our tradition.

To the things themselves!


Heidegger also has a bunch of excellent essays (on art, technology, etc.). I think his work on Technology is actually brilliant and particularly relevant today.


If anyone in this thread actually understands being and time i'd be the MOST impressed.


what's not to understand?

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby jkpolk » Mon May 14, 2012 1:29 pm

PARTY wrote:what's not to understand?


is that a phenomenological question? if so, you win a cookie.

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Postby PARTY » Mon May 14, 2012 1:30 pm

polkij333 wrote:
PARTY wrote:what's not to understand?


is that a phenomenological question? if so, you win a cookie.


:D

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Postby stillwater » Mon May 14, 2012 1:30 pm

polkij333 wrote:
PARTY wrote:what's not to understand?


is that a phenomenological question? if so, you win a cookie.


Speaking of which, Hegel's The Phenomenology of the Spirit is another one that goes down smooth.

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby Campagnolo » Mon May 14, 2012 1:43 pm

polkij333 wrote:
PARTY wrote:what's not to understand?


is that a phenomenological question? if so, you win a cookie.


That's a metaphysical question, and clearly off limits.

I don't understand Being in Time very well, as I mostly focused on his work on the Greeks. Still, he's very powerful.

As for taking the LSAT, I think we are maybe going about this the wrong way. Heidegger is just as likely to say that, for him, the test had no use, and therefore does not exist for him as a thing. It exists, but has no meaning for him.

Plato would argue that the LSAT is merely derivative of the best possible law school entrance exam, and would work on crafting that instead.

Aristotle would have no problem acing the LSAT, and would do so.

Hume would be too busy playing backgammon and smoking stogies to care about the LSAT.

Kant would never get to the testing center if it weren't in Königsberg, though if it were in Königsberg he would walk to the site and be perfectly punctual.

I think maybe the title must go to Descartes. He was trained as a lawyer, after all, and so clearly rocked the pre-1991 LSAT.

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby Odd Future Wolf Gang » Mon May 14, 2012 1:44 pm

PARTY wrote:what's not to understand?


Then answer me one question:

What's the thesis of Being and Time?

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby Borhas » Mon May 14, 2012 1:48 pm

I think Rand's the only one who could read English so probably her

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Postby 99.9luft » Mon May 14, 2012 1:54 pm

Borhas wrote:I think Rand's the only one who could read English so probably her


she was not a native English speaker, though (aside from being a hack - see earlier posts)

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby RedBirds2011 » Mon May 14, 2012 1:56 pm

99.9luft wrote:
Borhas wrote:I think Rand's the only one who could read English so probably her


she was not a native English speaker, though (aside from being a hack - see earlier posts)


Lol don't get this started again.

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby stillwater » Mon May 14, 2012 1:56 pm

Borhas wrote:I think Rand's the only one who could read English so probably her


Wittgenstein taught at Cambridge. I think he could handle the LSAT (while mindfucking the shit out of it). And Richard Rorty knows that English as well.

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby 99.9luft » Mon May 14, 2012 2:00 pm

RedBirds2011 wrote:
99.9luft wrote:
Borhas wrote:I think Rand's the only one who could read English so probably her


she was not a native English speaker, though (aside from being a hack - see earlier posts)


Lol don't get this started again.


you're right, I should stop. okay, last one...

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby Joeshan520 » Mon May 14, 2012 2:44 pm

Heidegger=master sophistry=creation of own cogent language

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby Odd Future Wolf Gang » Mon May 14, 2012 3:06 pm

I'm convinced Heidegger was the greatest troll in western philosophy.

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Postby Campagnolo » Mon May 14, 2012 3:26 pm

Odd Future Wolf Gang wrote:I'm convinced Heidegger was the greatest troll in western philosophy.


It's foolish to try and sum up Being and Time here, but I'll try anyways. Being and Time tries to unite our varied senses, perceptions, and faculties into a unified being that reflects the way we actually experience the world. To do this, he picks up Husserl's concept of intentionality and the pre-theoretical conditions necessary for intentionality.

I think I've done a pretty fair amount of defending Heidegger here. Why do you find him to be such a putz?

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby stillwater » Mon May 14, 2012 3:34 pm

Campagnolo wrote:
Odd Future Wolf Gang wrote:I'm convinced Heidegger was the greatest troll in western philosophy.


It's foolish to try and sum up Being and Time here, but I'll try anyways. Being and Time tries to unite our varied senses, perceptions, and faculties into a unified being that reflects the way we actually experience the world. To do this, he picks up Husserl's concept of intentionality and the pre-theoretical conditions necessary for intentionality.

I think I've done a pretty fair amount of defending Heidegger here. Why do you find him to be such a putz?


The true putz here is Rand.

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Postby bceagles182 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:36 pm

Mill.

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Postby Joeshan520 » Mon May 14, 2012 10:17 pm

Odd Future Wolf Gang wrote:I'm convinced Heidegger was the greatest troll in western philosophy.


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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby angrybird » Mon May 14, 2012 11:38 pm

poll needs more teilhard de chardin

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Re: Philosopher's Highest Score on the LSAT

Postby bruss » Mon May 14, 2012 11:54 pm

Dang it voted for kant because I didn't see Aristotle. Aristotle would easily dominate this test. He is the reason why we are able to have this test.




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