February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

How do you think you scored?

Below a 160
42
24%
161-162
11
6%
163-164
18
10%
165-166
15
9%
167-168
16
9%
169-170
10
6%
171-172
22
13%
173-174
14
8%
175-176
6
3%
177+
19
11%
 
Total votes: 173

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby anteater1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:12 am

I think this thread hits 150 before scores.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby pancakelover » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:13 am

anteater1 wrote:I think this thread hits 150 before scores.


This comment makes me a saddd panda.
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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Troll_444 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:14 am

jigglebottom wrote:hey troll! dance for me....dance for me troll!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tiijT22Ja4

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Kit Cloudkicker » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:14 am

anteater1 wrote:I think this thread hits 150 before scores.



Is it weird that I want to punch your avatar in the face? Not because of anything you’ve said… I think his expression just annoys me.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby ampersand5 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:15 am

If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:16 am

pancakelover wrote:
anteater1 wrote:I think this thread hits 150 before scores.


This comment makes me a saddd panda.
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Let this picture of a hamster eating spaghetti cheer you up.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Kit Cloudkicker » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:17 am

ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


jigglebottom... I think he's calling you out.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby anteater1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:17 am

Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
anteater1 wrote:I think this thread hits 150 before scores.



Is it weird that I want to punch your avatar in the face? Not because of anything you’ve said… I think his expression just annoys me.


Watch The Inbetweeners, I beg of you.

My favorite comedy series of all time.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:17 am

ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby crede » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:20 am

bernaldiaz wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?


http://www.chomsky.info/books/dissent01.htm

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby pancakelover » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:21 am

bernaldiaz wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?


The Israel Lobby - Mearsheimer and Walt

A History of the Modern Middle East - Cleveland and Bunton

I found those to be interesting and informative.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby noleknight16 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:22 am

On Mars right now in Mass Effect 3. Awesome game so far. Well worth the $$$

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby jigglebottom » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:22 am

Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


jigglebottom... I think he's calling you out.


crazy as in your preference for a two-state solution?

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby pancakelover » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:22 am

bernaldiaz wrote:
pancakelover wrote:
anteater1 wrote:I think this thread hits 150 before scores.


This comment makes me a saddd panda.
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Let this picture of a hamster eating spaghetti cheer you up.

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cuteness attack?

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby barrotmartin » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:23 am

This only has two (negative) reviews on amazon, and it's older (2000), but I think the history of the colonial era in the ME it tells is really well done and not done elsewhere.

Contemporary Politics in the Middle East

edit: New edition

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby ampersand5 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:24 am

crede wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?


http://www.chomsky.info/books/dissent01.htm


I hope this was a joke. Chomsky is one of the worst possible people to read on this subject. He reeks of bias, a nefarious attitude and inaccuracies. I mean, maybe if you want to tow the Chomsky line on everything else (do you hate America?), then sure, read Chomsky; but I doubt thats the case for you or anybody else who is reading this thread.
What you asked is a difficult question to respond to because yes, there probably is a good book that addresses everything in an objective easy to read manner, but nobody will agree on what that is. I can suggest what I think are good books on the topic but no authoritative source.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby jigglebottom » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:25 am

Palestine Inside Out: An Everyday Occupation Saree Makdisi

http://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Inside-Out-Everyday-Occupation/dp/0393066061

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby ampersand5 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:26 am

pancakelover wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?


The Israel Lobby - Mearsheimer and Walt

A History of the Modern Middle East - Cleveland and Bunton

I found those to be interesting and informative.

I don't know anything about the second one, but the first is a big no-no if you are someone who follows and deals with the conflict.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Kit Cloudkicker » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:29 am

anteater1 wrote:
Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
anteater1 wrote:I think this thread hits 150 before scores.



Is it weird that I want to punch your avatar in the face? Not because of anything you’ve said… I think his expression just annoys me.


Watch The Inbetweeners, I beg of you.

My favorite comedy series of all time.



I think I caught an episode at the hotel when I was in London last year. This and Geordie Shore.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby pancakelover » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:29 am

ampersand5 wrote:
pancakelover wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?


The Israel Lobby - Mearsheimer and Walt

A History of the Modern Middle East - Cleveland and Bunton

I found those to be interesting and informative.

I don't know anything about the second one, but the first is a big no-no if you are someone who follows and deals with the conflict.


Is it a no-no because you disagree with it?

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby jigglebottom » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:30 am

ampersand5 wrote:
pancakelover wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?


The Israel Lobby - Mearsheimer and Walt

A History of the Modern Middle East - Cleveland and Bunton

I found those to be interesting and informative.

I don't know anything about the second one, but the first is a big no-no if you are someone who follows and deals with the conflict.


edit: ..the Israel lobby is legit..I follow and deal with the conflict.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Troll_444 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:31 am

Troll_444 is confused as to why everyone on here is posting information that is completely off topic. Can everyone please focus on the topic of this thread? Thanks.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Fyo'Couch » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:33 am

ampersand5 wrote:
crede wrote:
bernaldiaz wrote:
ampersand5 wrote:If you guys have any questions pertaining to the Israel-Arab conflict or things you think are crazy that you don't fully understand, feel free to bring it up and hopefully I can address any issues at hand.


Legit there is so much more I want to know. Is there one source (maybe a book or article) that I can read that will make me more informed?


http://www.chomsky.info/books/dissent01.htm


I hope this was a joke. Chomsky is one of the worst possible people to read on this subject. He reeks of bias, a nefarious attitude and inaccuracies. I mean, maybe if you want to tow the Chomsky line on everything else (do you hate America?), then sure, read Chomsky; but I doubt thats the case for you or anybody else who is reading this thread.
What you asked is a difficult question to respond to because yes, there probably is a good book that addresses everything in an objective easy to read manner, but nobody will agree on what that is. I can suggest what I think are good books on the topic but no authoritative source.


I like the part where Chomsky confidently states that the USA and Israel are against a 2-state solution...

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby nkp007 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:34 am


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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby ampersand5 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:36 am

The Israel Lobby - Mearsheimer and Walt

A History of the Modern Middle East - Cleveland and Bunton

I found those to be interesting and informative.[/quote]
I don't know anything about the second one, but the first is a big no-no if you are someone who follows and deals with the conflict.[/quote]

Is it a no-no because you disagree with it?[/quote]
No. The book does a poor job of conveying anything. It is completely onesided, shows very poor scholarship and distorts history. I don't want to make any assumptions about how much you follow Walt and Mersheimer, but go read their interviews and articles outside the book and see how they write, I think you would be shocked. It is almost on par with Normal Finklestein hogwash.

There are many authors/books who I disagree with or happen to not like what they write, but I won't say anything bad about them or their work. There is a big difference between a guy like Benny Morris (who I would recommend even though I disagree with much of his work) and the others mentioned.




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