February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

How do you think you scored?

Below a 160
42
24%
161-162
11
6%
163-164
18
10%
165-166
15
9%
167-168
16
9%
169-170
10
6%
171-172
22
13%
173-174
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8%
175-176
6
3%
177+
19
11%
 
Total votes: 173

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wakka!
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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby wakka! » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:22 pm

I mean if you guys actually want to see god, I can show him to you. Come over my place and take 7 grams of psilocybin mushrooms with me, and you can experience him.

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wakka!
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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby wakka! » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:23 pm

Or it, or they, or zeus, or whatever you want to call it.

rewlor
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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby rewlor » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:26 pm

hotspur wrote:
wakka! wrote:
hotspur wrote:I don't think an atheism debate is possible on this thread.

Nonetheless, it seems ridiculous to deny the existence of a supreme being when that supreme being has proven value throughout the course of human history.



What do you mean "proven value" ?


Historical and social impact I guess.




I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...

Christ this forum is just a subset of redditors isn't it...

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby hotspur » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:27 pm

wakka! wrote:I mean if you guys actually want to see god, I can show him to you. Come over my place and take 7 grams of psilocybin mushrooms with me, and you can experience him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stxmzi226LY

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:28 pm

rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...

Christ this forum is just a subset of redditors isn't it...


Fuck Reddit atheism. Most annoying group of people in the world. They have turned me against atheists.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby FinallyGoing » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:28 pm

Nothing is to say that science as we know it is not simply temporal.

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Kit Cloudkicker
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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Kit Cloudkicker » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:32 pm

rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...



+1

I have a problem with religious constituents who elect religious delegates who subsequently support religious-based legislation; illogical legislation in which the only justification offered is “because the bible says so.”

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby FinallyGoing » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:34 pm

Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...



+1

I have a problem with religious constituents who elect religious delegates who subsequently support religious-based legislation; illogical legislation in which the only justification offered is “because the bible says so.”



Because this somehow differs from someone using a non-religious ideology to inform their decisions? Give me a break.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:34 pm

Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...



+1

I have a problem with religious constituents who elect religious delegates who subsequently support religious-based legislation; illogical legislation in which the only justification offered is “because the bible says so.”


So... Santorum 2012 yeah?

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Skunky Bumps » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:39 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...

Christ this forum is just a subset of redditors isn't it...


Fuck Reddit atheism. Most annoying group of people in the world. They have turned me against atheists.


This is a pretty good analysis of /r/atheism I read earlier today.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/qftng/whats_happening_over_at_ratheism/c3x9pto

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Kit Cloudkicker
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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Kit Cloudkicker » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:40 pm

FinallyGoing wrote:
Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...



+1

I have a problem with religious constituents who elect religious delegates who subsequently support religious-based legislation; illogical legislation in which the only justification offered is “because the bible says so.”




Because this somehow differs from someone using a non-religious ideology to inform their decisions? Give me a break.



Really??? For example: Gay Marriage.

Logical – Science has proven that being gay is not a choice. People are born that way. No different from race. No different from gender. Therefore they shouldn’t be denied that same rights as everyone else.

Illogical – Gay marriage should be banned, because the bible says, “it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

So…. You, FinallyGoing, give me a break. It’s not ideology, it’s science. It’s common sense.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby hotspur » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:42 pm

Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
FinallyGoing wrote:
Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...



+1

I have a problem with religious constituents who elect religious delegates who subsequently support religious-based legislation; illogical legislation in which the only justification offered is “because the bible says so.”




Because this somehow differs from someone using a non-religious ideology to inform their decisions? Give me a break.



Really??? For example: Gay Marriage.

Logical – Science has proven that being gay is not a choice. People are born that way. No different from race. No different from gender. Therefore they shouldn’t be denied that same rights as everyone else.

Illogical – Gay marriage should be banned, because the bible says, “it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

So…. You, FinallyGoing, give me a break. It’s not ideology, it’s science. It’s common sense.


Dude terrible example. Evolution makes the logical part of that VERY problematic. Also, the Bible says "judge not lest ye be judged". Maybe we should let them do their thing and not worry about it...

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby noleknight16 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:43 pm

I'm atheist. See no reason to believe in any of the religions on Earth. At best there's a non-intervening Creator but that's it.

The God of the Bible is so incredibly man-made it's not even funny.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:43 pm

Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
FinallyGoing wrote:
Kit Cloudkicker wrote:
rewlor wrote:
I have no problem with religious people and "believers", I have a problem with them applying their moral structure onto me, and then claiming they are the persecuted ones...



+1

I have a problem with religious constituents who elect religious delegates who subsequently support religious-based legislation; illogical legislation in which the only justification offered is “because the bible says so.”




Because this somehow differs from someone using a non-religious ideology to inform their decisions? Give me a break.



Really??? For example: Gay Marriage.

Logical – Science has proven that being gay is not a choice. People are born that way. No different from race. No different from gender. Therefore they shouldn’t be denied that same rights as everyone else.

Illogical – Gay marriage should be banned, because the bible says, “it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

So…. You, FinallyGoing, give me a break. It’s not ideology, it’s science. It’s common sense.


Dude I 1000X agree with you on everything you're saying, just I'm not sure that science has actually proven that yet. But yeah, there are dozens of other examples where new discoveries have made certain stances no longer just opinions, and there are actual facts of the matter that you have to ignore reason to side with the church.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Betharl » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:45 pm

The earth was made in 7 days, amirite?

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby wakka! » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:49 pm

How about abortion? Can we agree that should be legal.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:49 pm

Betharl wrote:The earth was made in 7 days, amirite?


You can be religious and not believe that. Read a little about Pope Pius XII. Since 1900ish the church has been saying that the bible shouldn't be read as a literal text, it's an amalgamation of different types of stories including myth. When it comes down to it now, a lot of everyday people in America are more extreme in their relgious beliefs than even the Church was 100 years ago.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby noleknight16 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:50 pm

wakka! wrote:How about abortion? Can we agree that should be legal.


We don't really know when life begins. That's my only issue with it.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby LSATDecimator » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:50 pm

Betharl wrote:The earth was made in 7 days, amirite?



And a day with God is like a thousand years.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby noleknight16 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:51 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
Betharl wrote:The earth was made in 7 days, amirite?


You can be religious and not believe that. Read a little about Pope Pius XII. Since 1900ish the church has been saying that the bible shouldn't be read as a literal text, it's an amalgamation of different types of stories including myth. When it comes down to it now, a lot of everyday people in America are more extreme in their relgious beliefs than even the Church was 100 years ago.


You mean since science started disproving the garbage as myth they fell back to the "allegory/metaphorical" argument. :roll:

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Kit Cloudkicker » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:51 pm

wakka! wrote:How about abortion? Can we agree that should be legal.



Lol

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby wakka! » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:52 pm

noleknight16 wrote:
wakka! wrote:How about abortion? Can we agree that should be legal.


We don't really know when life begins. That's my only issue with it.


I mean the way it is now is fine I think. Like anytime during the first 3 months.
I'd say life begins when you can survive on your own without a host; up until they you're just a parasite. But to play it safe, I think 3/4 months is a good threshold amount of time to kill the unborn baby.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby noleknight16 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:52 pm

wakka! wrote:
noleknight16 wrote:
wakka! wrote:How about abortion? Can we agree that should be legal.


We don't really know when life begins. That's my only issue with it.


I mean the way it is now is fine I think. Like anytime during the first 3 months.
I'd say life begins when you can survive on your own without a host; up until they you're just a parasite. But to play it safe, I think 3/4 months is a good threshold amount of time to kill the unborn baby.


I'm a heatbeat person myself. That's not very much time, but the independent flowing of blood tells me life.

Nobody really knows though.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Fad » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:54 pm

wakka! wrote:
noleknight16 wrote:
wakka! wrote:How about abortion? Can we agree that should be legal.


We don't really know when life begins. That's my only issue with it.


I mean the way it is now is fine I think. Like anytime during the first 3 months.
I'd say life begins when you can survive on your own without a host; up until they you're just a parasite. But to play it safe, I think 3/4 months is a good threshold amount of time to kill the unborn baby.


Parasites are not living things? Good to know.

I learn so much from these forums.

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Re: February 2012 Waiting Thread (NEW POLL!!!1!)

Postby Betharl » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:54 pm

Yeah, I mean, that's not a polarizing issue, I think we can probably reach a quick agreement on that.

wakka! wrote:How about abortion? Can we agree that should be legal.




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