Betharl wrote:I just saw these posts, so I am getting us back on the Mensa train (sorry). This will probably be it for me, if not, I guess Finally Going and I can take it to PMs, lol.
I see what FG is saying, but RR, I certainly don’t agree with you. I think most people here understand your resume is not a very important factor in law school admissions, so I doubt they are jealous over whatever slight benefit putting Mensa on your already mostly irrelevant resume might have. It is certainly not my motivation, I am Mensa qualified, and hopefully twice over once I get my Feb score!
Finally Going- You say I am wrong that Mensa is mainly about bragging about a standardized test score, but both Bernaldiaz and I more or less immediately arrived at that conclusion when you mentioned Mensa, and it seems MConchis also holds a negative view. So, ostensibly, this perception is not a rare one.
Not that I need to, but I'd even go so far as to concede that yes, the perception that you and 2
other posters here have about Mensa is not a rare one.....with law school applicants. Listen I don't know how much WE you have, but your idea that interviewers will look upon the listing of one's Mensa membership on a resume unfavorably simply doesn't jive with reality. First of all, with time you will (presumably) mature and hone your skills of empathy (especially if you're looking to go into litigation). When this happens you will realize that a person who self-selects to put their Mensa membership on their application is highly unlikely to be doing so for douchebaggery purposes insofar as if they themselves considered the move to be douchebaggy they would have not opted to do it for the same reasons you have repeatedly espoused.
But that still glosses over the main point here which your contention that "Mensa is mainly about bragging about a standardized test score..." Your position is still inherently false. Your argument has shifted to one now of "well it doesn't matter that I am wrong because a lot pf people are wrong with me." O.K. I see your point; however I find it troubling that in the face of the truth you are still holding tightly onto your false perceptions. That is just strange.
Betharl wrote: So let me ask you, what matters when someone is reading your resume, their perception or reality? Are you willing to risk that the person reviewing your resume will make the same “mistake” I made (I’m still not ready to concede that Mensa is not mainly about bragging, even if I am letting that go for now).
As I have said before, I would put it on my resume in the appropriate section, which for me happens to be "Clubs and Organizations." With all due respect I have never found interviewers in any industry to be the type that would allow, either positively or negatively, membership in an innocuous organization to play a significant role in their evaluation.
I sort of imagine you as an interviewer looking over someone that lists Mensa on their application, circling "Mensa" with a red marker during the interview, pushing the resume back across the table and asking "What the fuck is this all about chief???" lol
Betharl wrote:As to the 3 points you listed.
1. -I think if they know about Mensa, they will know about the requirements and have the same negative view I have of Mensa, or just not care. Reasons for not caring would include not placing much emphasis on standardized tests scores or realizing everyone they are interviewing is most likely Mensa qualified regardless of whether they put it on their resume (I suspect most people, although admittedly not all, interviewing for Big Law or other prestigious legal employment meet Mensa qualifications). In either case, it does not help you and could only hurt.
I don't see any reason to think that just because they know of Mensa, they are versed in Mensa's eligibility requirements, especially
as they pertain to non IQ tests. Nor do I believe they would have "the same negative view [you] have." Dude, where do you get this shit from? Contention (no warrant) Contention (no warrant) Contention (no warrant) (not even a dab of clear reasoning).
Oh, and not everyone who goes to law school is going to be interviewing for BigLaw...regardless if that is their decision or not...here we are in this contracted market and you want to start penalizing people for differentiating themselves. I am seriously beginning to wonder if you've ever held a meaningful job, and I do mean that with the highest amount of respect possible.
Imagine a candidate...introvert, MIT grad, goes to BC concentrates in tax law...and.. *gasp* he lists his Mensa and Chess Club memberships on his resume....autoding?!?!? lol I am just going to stop here dude....I think it's pretty clear that an interviewer, or a team of interviewers would be able to pick up on douchebaggery in a whole host of other ways, rendering this criterion of mensa membership irrelevant for that purpose. I just don't exactly imagine conversations like "Hey Bill, why didn't we hire that kid?" "Well Jim, that little bastard was a member of...MENSA!" "Oh wow Bill, close call....close call."