Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

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Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby justbubbles » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:24 pm

The format seems cut and dry (ie - the usual type of questions), but I've noticed that:

* Qs 1-14 that used to be somewhat easy, have started to get harder;
* Qs 23-26 have become really difficult and time-consuming;
* Even the sub-#15 questions have become really wordy and verbose.
* In PT 60 and below, I would breeze through LR Qs 1-15 but in the PT6Xs I end up spending 3/4th of my time on these.

Am I incorrect in my observations and assertions?

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby maxmartin » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:30 pm

for me it is getting easier,much less awkward language in the stem and choices.

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby sbaron » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:40 pm

Yep. I noticed this exact same thing today!

Normally questions 1 - 10 I can tear through. With the PTs in the 60s though I've had difficulty with ths.

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby justbubbles » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:50 pm

Yeah. I agree. Others (outside of TLS) have sensed this as well.

A perfect example would be: PT63, Q8. The answer is B (and I can see why it is B), but on test day I could easily be swayed to pick A. It took me a long time to get answer choice B.

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby KevinP » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:47 am

It's not just you, and you are correct in your observation. However, you also have to consider that the "curve" reflects the increase in difficulty. Based on the curve, the increase in difficulty starts at PT 59.

55: -9
56: -11
57: -11
58: -11
59: -14
60: -12
61: -12
62: -14
63: -11
64: -12
65: -14

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby Geetar Man » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:20 am

KevinP wrote:It's not just you, and you are correct in your observation. However, you also have to consider that the "curve" reflects the increase in difficulty. Based on the curve, the increase in difficulty starts at PT 59.

55: -9
56: -11
57: -11
58: -11
59: -14
60: -12
61: -12
62: -14
63: -11
64: -12
65: -14


Good! I was noticing that on Powerscore's website... I dont mean to hijack, but does this mean the tests seem to be gaining points in the curve? Or is the sample size to limited to make a claim...

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby lovejopd » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:44 am

Geetar Man wrote:
KevinP wrote:It's not just you, and you are correct in your observation. However, you also have to consider that the "curve" reflects the increase in difficulty. Based on the curve, the increase in difficulty starts at PT 59.

55: -9
56: -11
57: -11
58: -11
59: -14
60: -12
61: -12
62: -14
63: -11
64: -12
65: -14


Good! I was noticing that on Powerscore's website... I dont mean to hijack, but does this mean the tests seem to be gaining points in the curve? Or is the sample size to limited to make a claim...

-9: Easy Test
-14: Difficult Test

That's all: 8)

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby justbubbles » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:19 pm

Just did LR1 on PT64.

Got raped.

-11. Ouch.

Brutal.

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby KevinP » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:48 am

Geetar Man wrote:
Good! I was noticing that on Powerscore's website... I dont mean to hijack, but does this mean the tests seem to be gaining points in the curve? Or is the sample size to limited to make a claim...

The LSAT isn't technically curved; it is scaled. I use the term "curve" as a misnomer, where I define the word "curve" to mean how many one can miss and still get a 170. Harder tests have more lenient curves, and easier tests have harsher curves. Based on historical data, the LSAT's curves tend to be cyclical. That is, the curve is harsh for a number of years, then lenient for a number of years, then harsh again, and so on (with a few outliers, of course).

lovejopd wrote:-9: Easy Test
-14: Difficult Test

That's all: 8)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby Geetar Man » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:35 am

lovejopd wrote:
Geetar Man wrote:
KevinP wrote:It's not just you, and you are correct in your observation. However, you also have to consider that the "curve" reflects the increase in difficulty. Based on the curve, the increase in difficulty starts at PT 59.

55: -9
56: -11
57: -11
58: -11
59: -14
60: -12
61: -12
62: -14
63: -11
64: -12
65: -14


Good! I was noticing that on Powerscore's website... I dont mean to hijack, but does this mean the tests seem to be gaining points in the curve? Or is the sample size to limited to make a claim...

-9: Easy Test
-14: Difficult Test

That's all: 8)



Yeah, but what if you're good at the test and get more of the hardest ones right? (not saying that I do, I am just genuinely curious)

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Re: Is it just me or has LR in PTs 60-65 have become difficult?

Postby lovejopd » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:50 am

Geetar Man wrote:
lovejopd wrote:
Geetar Man wrote:
KevinP wrote:It's not just you, and you are correct in your observation. However, you also have to consider that the "curve" reflects the increase in difficulty. Based on the curve, the increase in difficulty starts at PT 59.

55: -9
56: -11
57: -11
58: -11
59: -14
60: -12
61: -12
62: -14
63: -11
64: -12
65: -14


Good! I was noticing that on Powerscore's website... I dont mean to hijack, but does this mean the tests seem to be gaining points in the curve? Or is the sample size to limited to make a claim...

-9: Easy Test
-14: Difficult Test

That's all: 8)



Yeah, but what if you're good at the test and get more of the hardest ones right? (not saying that I do, I am just genuinely curious)


I don't know what you are asking. It does not matter whether you got the easiest OR hardest ones right. You raw scores AND "scale" matters.

Even though the number of questions you missed is the SAME, the score will be different. If you get "-9" on 55 test, you get 170. If you get "-9" on 65, you get 170+(check the scale for test 65, if you need an exact score).




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