Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby citykitty » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:13 pm

My PT avg was 174.5. High of 178, low of 171 except diag. I pulled a 170 on the real deal. I was a little upset at my performance, but not enough to retake. If I had a higher GPA, I would've totally retaken though, because the potential gain would've benefited me more.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby Gail » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:39 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:I've seen a lot of threads where there practice vs actual LSAT scores. I'm asking something a bit more specific. Primarily for people who had high PT's (but anyone can chime in), what was your drop from your HIGHEST PT to your actual score? I'm sort of interested to see if anyone who had mastered the material enough to get say a 175-180 on a practice test struggled enough on game day to go well below 170.


Highest PT was 175 for pt 58 (I think)

Average was probably more about 169-170

Actual: 166

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby emkay625 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:41 pm

I hit 180 4 times before the December 09 test. Ended up with a 169.

Fucking Noguchi.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby inthebeginning » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:49 pm

Someone needs to create something that is the exact OPPOSITE of this thread. Or do jumpers not exist?

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby Gail » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:22 pm

inthebeginning wrote:Someone needs to create something that is the exact OPPOSITE of this thread. Or do jumpers not exist?


THey are as rare as the unicorn.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby acrossthelake » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:34 pm

Makes more sense to ask about the difference between the average of the last 5-10ish preptests taken and testday. I had a 2 point drop from my highest LSAT score, but I was plenty happy to beat my average by 3.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby NYC Law » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:37 pm

Right before the LSAT I was hitting 175 on almost every PT. Got a 167.

TBF I did hook up with this chick the night before, didn't really sleep.

Didn't retake.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby Tiago Splitter » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:39 pm

inthebeginning wrote:Someone needs to create something that is the exact OPPOSITE of this thread. Or do jumpers not exist?


Jumper here. I wish I could step back from that ledge my friend.

Highest PT 177, real thing 178.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby buns » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:05 pm

Avg PT: ~173, Highest PT: 178, Actual Score: 166

Didn't have time to retake :(. I have since transferred to where I would have been had I hit the 173 area, but I am forever haunted by my test-day drop

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:31 pm

inthebeginning wrote:Someone needs to create something that is the exact OPPOSITE of this thread. Or do jumpers not exist?


Hahaha I agree. Even as I was making the thread, even though I was interested in the possible responses, I was thinking how I really didn't want to know the real answers. Although I think we have two jumpers so far that have posted.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby 180asBreath » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:37 am

emkay625 wrote:I hit 180 4 times before the December 09 test. Ended up with a 169.

Fucking Noguchi.


This is cruel.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby JamMasterJ » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:45 am

177.something average over the last 10. 176 on the real thing (the big drop was on my previous take). The best expectation is about 3 points below average.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby NYCLSATTutor » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:07 am

I had an old student who had preptested in the mid to high 170's and then got a 138 on the real thing.

He basically had massive anxiety problems. He came to me for help after the 138 and there was nothing I could do for him. I can help with anxiety, but not if its that bad.

As for jumpers....I preptested from 169-171. Got a 175 on the real thing.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby kertz » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:20 am

NYC Law wrote:Right before the LSAT I was hitting 175 on almost every PT. Got a 167.

TBF I did hook up with this chick the night before, didn't really sleep.

Didn't retake.
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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby UtilityMonster » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:14 pm

I think my situation is a bit more typical. Was averaging 172s on PTs and then got a 169 (the most obnoxious score ever) on the actual. I think ~3 point drops are about average.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby Moriarty » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:47 pm

I was PT-ing under real conditions in the mid-170s, got a 160 on the real thing. Wanted to throw self out of window. I didn't really sleep the night before, but everything else was normal. Anxiety much? Yes.

I applied this cycle, but if things don't turn out I'll be in the June retake thread. Stupid Romans.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby Zelda » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:03 pm

I had a significant drop if October hadn't had such a generous scale.

PT Average: 176 (18 PTs)
Average Total Incorrect: -5
Average LR 1: -.94
Average LR 2: -1.3
Average LG: - .16
Average RC: - 2.5

Highest PT: 180 (Once)
Lowest PT: PT 172 (Once)
175/176's were much more common for me.

Actual Score (October 2011): 173
Total Incorrect: -10
LR 1: -2
LR 2: -3
LG: -3
RC: -2

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby aekea » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:19 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
inthebeginning wrote:Someone needs to create something that is the exact OPPOSITE of this thread. Or do jumpers not exist?


Jumper here. I wish I could step back from that ledge my friend.

Highest PT 177, real thing 178.


Jumper here as well. Highest PT 170, actual 178. Suffice it to say I was surprised when I got my score.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby 180asBreath » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:25 pm

aekea wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
inthebeginning wrote:Someone needs to create something that is the exact OPPOSITE of this thread. Or do jumpers not exist?


Jumper here. I wish I could step back from that ledge my friend.

Highest PT 177, real thing 178.


Jumper here as well. Highest PT 170, actual 178. Suffice it to say I was surprised when I got my score.


That's like 1 in a million.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby inthebeginning » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:39 pm

But as proven by dumb and dumber, sometimes one in a million is all the confidence you need.

Also, if 170 to 178 happened to me, id probably laugh. And keep laughing for weeks.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby NDIrish2012 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:04 pm

I'm another jumper. I took like 10 or so PT's over three weeks, and although I didn't keep track of my scores at all I'd say my average was in the 166 area- highest PT was I think a 168. Most significantly, however, was the last PT I took before the real deal- I got a 163 (if I recall correctly).
My test day score was 173.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby 180asBreath » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:11 am

I would have had a fist pump like this for several weeks:

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:11 am

I'm not sure if I get more nervous hearing about the drops or more peeved from hearing about the jumpers and knowing it won't happen to me. This thread was not my best idea.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby outlookingin » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:30 am

bernaldiaz wrote:I'm not sure if I get more nervous hearing about the drops or more peeved from hearing about the jumpers and knowing it won't happen to me. This thread was not my best idea.


Nah man this is pretty fascinating/frightening. I like what the earlier poster said about paying less attention to your low and high scores and more attention to your average and variance. I'm going to get consistent!!! Like chocolate cake frosting... mmmm... (my girlfriend is making a cake right now--yes!)

Also to do:

--Test with 32 min. sections
--Test with 5+ sections
--Test in busy libraries

The only problem with this (correct me if I am wrong) is that our PT scores will actually be off-whack, right? It will low-ball what we are capable of... buuuut maybe that's a good thing. Hold us back from hubris and shit.

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Re: Biggest drops for 170+ PTers

Postby Simplicity » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:57 pm

My average PT was around a 175, and I got a 175 on the actual test. I went as low as a 167 on three different PTs, one of those being about a week before the test. The other two were on some of my first few PTs.




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