Avg. Prep Time for 170

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Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby swordsman1 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:54 am

Hey all,

What is the Average Prep Time for 170+?

I am asking for "Average", so please do not come up with: "It varies from person to person" etc.

I think the responses to this question can be averaged out, and that will be really helpful to many people!

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby bruss » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:19 pm

Hmm it would be pretty neat to figure out the avg months ppl studied to get to 170. Maybe make a poll. That will cut out a lot of inane responses.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby ben4847 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:21 pm

bruss wrote:Hmm it would be pretty neat to figure out the avg months ppl studied to get to 170. Maybe make a poll. That will cut out a lot of inane responses.


I can't think of an inane enough response for a question which is completely impossible for anyone to answer.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby larsoner » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:29 pm

At the risk of giving an inane response, I studied lightly for about two and half months (a few questions a day and a practice test every other weekend) and more heavily for a couple of weeks (about half a practice test a day).

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby ben4847 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:33 pm

swordsman1 wrote:Hey all,

What is the Average Prep Time for 170+?

I am asking for "Average", so please do not come up with: "It varies from person to person" etc.

I think the responses to this question can be averaged out, and that will be really helpful to many people!


The average depends on your GPA.

3.9+: Average studying for 170; 80 hours.
3.7-3.9: 200 hours
3.5-3.7: 700 hours
3.3-3.5: 1600 hours
>3.3: varies too widely to be statistically significant.

As you can see, the hours grow exponentially as the GPA decreases.

Source: Mein Boich.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby Errzii » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:36 pm

I don't know what the average time would be but IMO if you invest more than 100 hrs studying/prepping and still aren't there you're probably not studying correctly or won't see any significant improvement beyond that.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby Shooter » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:41 pm

I think after awhile the law of diminishing returns becomes a factor. If you have the innate potential to score above a 170, 100 hours (35 hrs of drills and 65 hrs of PTs) should do the trick. If you truly are not a good test taker, and you do not start to see consistent, noticeable improvements after the first 100 hours, excessive studying won't help as much as good health, a clear mind and a little luck.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby bruss » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:06 pm

Was thinking of a poll that's like 1-3months 4-6months 7-9months 9-12months 1yr+ that way we don't get dumbass speaking for others and they can just speak from their experience.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby ben4847 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:08 pm

bruss wrote:Was thinking of a poll that's like 1-3months 4-6months 7-9months 9-12months 1yr+ that way we don't get dumba-- speaking for others and they can just speak from their experience.


who are you calling a dumba--?

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby bruss » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:18 pm

ben4847 wrote:
bruss wrote:Was thinking of a poll that's like 1-3months 4-6months 7-9months 9-12months 1yr+ that way we don't get dumba-- speaking for others and they can just speak from their experience.


who are you calling a dumba--?


Lol he removed the ass part Lolz.

But yeah, read my post. If you believe that it pertains to you then A) adjust your actions accordingly or B) ignore my post o yeah, you could also do C) and try for a snappy comeback.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby SisterRayVU » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:34 pm

Dude some people diagnostic in the mid to high 160s and just have to learn a couple set ups for games in order to test in the 170s. Some people study for a month and get it and some study 4 months and are happy with a 160. Who fucking cares?

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby Mr.Binks » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:37 pm

swordsman1 wrote:Hey all,

What is the Average Prep Time for 170+?

I am asking for "Average", so please do not come up with: "It varies from person to person" etc.

I think the responses to this question can be averaged out, and that will be really helpful to many people!


It varies from person to person.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby johansantana21 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:38 pm

I cold tested above a 170. This thread is pretty pointless.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby bruss » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:42 pm

johansantana21 wrote:I cold tested above a 170. This thread is pretty pointless.


For you it is pointless. Seriously wtf ppl. Why post if the thread doesn't interest you

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby ben4847 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:44 pm

bruss wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:I cold tested above a 170. This thread is pretty pointless.


For you it is pointless. Seriously wt- ppl. Why post if the thread doesn't interest you


It does interest me. I keep hoping someone will say something inane enough to amuse me.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby bruss » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:44 pm

Wow. Either answer the question/help the answer get answered or gtfo.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby SisterRayVU » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:51 pm

bruss wrote:Wow. Either answer the question/help the answer get answered or gtfo.


It's a stupid question. Get over it brah

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby ben4847 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:53 pm

SisterRayVU wrote:
bruss wrote:Wow. Either answer the question/help the answer get answered or gtfo.


It's a stupid question. Get over it brah


And besides, you haven't exactly contributed anything either. You just got mad at everyone else for not contributing. gt-o

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby Jeffort » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:53 pm

swordsman1 wrote:Hey all,

What is the Average Prep Time for 170+?

I am asking for "Average", so please do not come up with: "It varies from person to person" etc.

I think the responses to this question can be averaged out, and that will be really helpful to many people!


What is the goal you are trying to accomplish with your question?

If you are trying to collect data to figure out how much time you or anyone else should or needs to spend preparing in order to score 170+, your goal is flawed in many ways.

Only roughly two percent (2%) of people that have taken the LSAT since 1991 have scored 170 or above no matter how much time they spent preparing to take the test, whether it be just a few hours or hundreds of hours. Plus, an average represents an entire group of people, not particular individuals.

The information you are seeking is unavailable. Seeking sample data on an LSAT study internet forum is a flawed method of collecting reliable statistical data.

The LSAT is a measure of acquired reading and verbal reasoning skills. Many of the skills tested by the LSAT, especially basic English grammar, vocabulary and reading comprehension skills are ones that test-takers are expected to have acquired/developed during grade school, middle school, high school and college education.

The underlying logical concepts and relationships the questions are based on that the test questions revolve around are basic/simple logic 101 concepts that can be learned with LSAT specific preparation as long as you have decent English grammar, vocabulary and reading comprehension skills from prior education. In other terms, if you have those skills in place from prior education, then it is just a matter of learning the format of the LSAT, the logical concepts repeatedly tested, the questions type, effective logically based strategies and practicing and reviewing test questions to get into 'LSAT mode thinking'.

There is no magic X #of prep hours = Y score range formula. You specified up front that you didn't want to hear the truth that it varies from person to person or why, but here it are some of the reasons whether you care to consider them or not.

Good luck if you are preparing to take the test and put in as much QUALITY preparation as it takes to hopefully reach your goal/maximum potential score. It is a test that people can learn how to take to significantly improve their score come test-day no matter where they start as long as they have decent English skills as described above.
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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby SisterRayVU » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:59 pm

ben4847 wrote:
SisterRayVU wrote:
bruss wrote:Wow. Either answer the question/help the answer get answered or gtfo.


It's a stupid question. Get over it brah


And besides, you haven't exactly contributed anything either. You just got mad at everyone else for not contributing. gt-o


Some people score int he high 160s cold and spend a week learning games. Some people study for 3 months and never break 165. What do you want? It's a stupid question. If OP wants to score 17x, OP needs to do what's right for him or her. If, upon being told, that it might take 3 or 4 months, and then OP is like 'Fuck this shit', then wtf man.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby buck » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:02 pm

I can only offer my experience. I think if your diagnostic score is similar, the study time could be comparable.

One month to go from 160 to 166. One month break. Another month to 170.

Study time: 15 hours/wk. 10 for PTs, 5 for study/review.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby LSAT_Tutor » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:32 am

swordsman1 wrote:Hey all,

What is the Average Prep Time for 170+?

I am asking for "Average", so please do not come up with: "It varies from person to person" etc.

I think the responses to this question can be averaged out, and that will be really helpful to many people!


Medium score of LSAT takers is 150. In other words, an average person scores ~150. Thus, OP question can be simplified to ~ this: "How long does it take to improve from 150 to 170 or by 20 points?"

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:34 am

You can do it in one month or less. You can do it in 4 weekends.

This is a silly question albeit TLS-esque. Ask a question, preemptively rule out the credited response and entertain yourself with wild conjecture(s). You answered your own question. It depends.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby rbkl » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:31 am

I will add to the list of averages -- but it took me a week to go from 165 (diagnostic) to 170. It has been really hard to move up from there.

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Re: Avg. Prep Time for 170

Postby LSAT_Tutor » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:58 pm

LSAT_Tutor wrote:
swordsman1 wrote:Hey all,

What is the Average Prep Time for 170+?

I am asking for "Average", so please do not come up with: "It varies from person to person" etc.

I think the responses to this question can be averaged out, and that will be really helpful to many people!


Medium score of LSAT takers is 150. In other words, an average person scores ~150. Thus, OP question can be simplified to ~ this: "How long does it take to improve from 150 to 170 or by 20 points?"


the correct answer is FOREVER.

for an average person on average it is simply impossible to improve 20 points. as far as I remember repeat takers score +/-2-3 points.




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