willwash wrote:When people talk about new SAT scores I get lost. I got a 1320 on the SAT
I think the new one is 3 800-point sections instead of 2.
You got into an Ivy with 1320? Isn't that kind of low? I had a 1400 and was told Ivies were a reach. (Paying for them would have also been a huge reach, so I went to a state school with a scholarship.)
Unlike with law school, undergraduate extracurriculars are huge. There was a guy at my high school who had a 1600 (on the old one), was on some national physics team, and was doing paid protein research at a school nearby. Rejected at two out of three of HYP. On the other hand, there are a serious amount of exceptions (within reason) that are allowed for sports like basketball and football, and for legacies.
Having taken a number of classes at three undergraduate programs, there really isn't a huge difference in the quality of the student. There's always some over their heads, and some insanely, ridiculously smart people. But to say that there's no difference in the percentages of those two categories just isn't true. At least in my experience.
Further, what people are forgetting here (and yes, I know, it doesn't factor into USNWR so law schools "don't care") is that there is a massive
difference in instructor quality, class size, and some other relevant factors at the really top schools. I have a few friends that are professors (yes, they make me feel like I've done nothing with myself) at certain top state schools and a significant factor is going somewhere they don't have to teach. If you take a look at a top school where the teachers are expected to teach undergrad, you'll see a serious difference in the quality of education (again, not necessarily the students).
OP: Don't apologize! Every sticky on this board encourages people to share their full stats and people yell at you to come back and post with more information. If you've been fortunate enough to have gone to a good school, they then proceed to mock you for arrogance. How dare you have gotten into and accepted life at a strong school.
I was doing the same thing for a while with the LSAT. I teach it, so I was at the point where I could get every question right but also was making unnecessary deductions in the games, nearly memorizing the reading passages, and articulating nearly every flaw in every argument possible. Put a timer on and things can go haywire, sometimes especially if you have a very logical thought process and have a hard time turning off further possible deductions when presented with data. I got over it by putting away the LSAT and reading everything. Take a practice test every week or so, timed, but focus on chilling out and not forcing it. When I stopped respecting the test and seeing it as something tricky or tough was when I consistently broke into the >175 range. This is never advice that I'd give to someone who wasn't scoring well or didn't fully grasp the logic of the test, but if you're stuck just at 170 and understanding what's going on in the test isn't the problem, this might help. PM me if you don't want to incur the wrath of some venomous posters on here. (I'm sure I've got some coming now...)