Just FYI - I was at the LA reception last night and they said that about 380 people had placed deposits, and they were looking to fill about 100 more seats for the Fall. Proably more will be accepted off the waitlist than that as the higher ranked schools pull some of the depositers away from Fordham in May.

Well, she didn't have to say anything. It's not like she was put on the spot and had to give an answer - In that case I'd be suspicious of a person bluffing a little. But this was an unsolicited comment... To me it looks more like it's legit and she's just trying to soften the blow for those waiting.

I hope, for the sake of our much anticipated WL acceptances to YHS etc., that I'm wrong, but it looks like a possible leading indicator that this cycle might be business as usual.

Guess this conclusion was a little too hasty.

From the Fordham thread:

Not sure what's normal for Fordham, but that sounds like a LOT of WL action...

It certainly does.

In related news, on the question of how law schools will react to falling applicant numbers:

UC Hastings just announced a permanent 20% reduction in class size:
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... tings.html

context:
http://legalpad.typepad.com/my_weblog/2 ... on-30.html

Tuition for California residents will be $46,500 in 2012-13 (up from $20,900 in 2004-05).

Guess this conclusion was a little too hasty.

We are all missing the point. Screw law school, lets go work for LSAC. I can live with $322,827 plus bonuses.

We are all missing the point. Screw law school, lets go work for LSAC. I can live with $322,827 plus bonuses.

????!!!!!?????!!!! Seriously????!!!!!!!! Why the heck are we all gunning for Big Law?!?!

Daniel O. Bernstine is the President of the Law School Admission Council. For the last decade, he served as president of Portland State University in Oregon. He was also dean of the University of Wisconsin Law School from 1990 to 1997. Dean Bernstine obtained his BA at the University of California, Berkeley (1969), a JD at Northwestern University School of Law (1972), and an LLM at the University of Wisconsin School of Law (1975). Prior to his tenure at Wisconsin, Dean Bernstine was a professor of law and interim dean at Howard University (1988-1990). He served as general counsel at Howard University and Howard University Hospital (1987-1990). He was the William H. Hastie Teaching Fellow at Wisconsin and a staff attorney for the US Department of Labor early in his career. He has been a visiting professor and lecturer all over the world, including Taiwan, Germany, and Cuba, and additional US law schools. For three successive summers (1983-1986), Dean Bernstine was director of CLEO’s Regional Summer Institute at Wisconsin. In 1991-1992, Dean Bernstine co-chaired the LSAC Minority Affairs Committee’s LSAC/HBCU Work Group.

Nope, that is the salary for a member of his staff. "the officers earned salaries of $375,707, $322,827, etc.--plus supplemental payments ranging from $75,000 to $100,000 in 2008."

Supposedly UChicago is shrinking to 190. Usually they're around 210, so they shrunk by 10% this year to deal with the drop in applicants.
I think we've discovered what the response for a lot of schools is, at least this cycle- just shrink to preserve numbers so you don't drop in the rankings.

Supposedly UChicago is shrinking to 190. Usually they're around 210, so they shrunk by 10% this year to deal with the drop in applicants.
I think we've discovered what the response for a lot of schools is, at least this cycle- just shrink to preserve numbers so you don't drop in the rankings.

I spoke with the admissions office last week and they said they had a higher yield than they expected of admitted students saying yes. (Weird because I heard this same info from another school too). They don't expect any wait list movement this year.

From the BC thread...

The yield being higher than expected doesn't mean admissions standards are equally difficult. If anything, a quick look at LSN shows things were a bit easier at BC this year.

190 is the norm for Chicago.

I really hope this thread delivers.

I've been following the admissions process for law schools this cycle pretty closely in conjunction with a research project I'm doing, and here are a couple of bits of information people might find helpful:

(1) A lot of schools, and especially a lot of Tier One schools outside the T-14, have gotten significantly fewer seat deposits than they normally have at this point in the cycle. One school in the middle of the top tier has less than half its normal seat deposits as of early May. That's an extreme case but a bunch of schools are down 20%-30% from historical yields.

(2) Because of (1) schools are pulling way more people off wait lists than normal, and offering much more money than they normally would to WL admits.

In general, anybody who has just been admitted to any school outside the T-14 -- and maybe even to a couple within it -- is in a position to drive a hard bargain.

Remember that the key to negotiating is that you have to be willing to walk away. Only then will you find out what the other party's real bottom line is.