Retaking a 170+?

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Retaking a 170+?

Postby Berkeley13 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:44 am

I was wondering if anyone has/knows someone who has retaken a 170+ and how that worked out for them. I'm currently a sophomore in community college, so I have all the time in the world to get this right.

My GPA is great, but I have a long way to go until it's set in stone. If I do go to law school, i'll probably be aiming exclusively for YHS (though i'm really unsure whether LS is the way to go right now).

Is the potential for scoring higher worth the risk of scoring lower and the time spent studying? I'm certain I can do better. I scored around my PT range, but I have about 10+ PTs unused and about half of my errors were stupid mistakes (misbubbling, ran out of time on LR when I never do due to nerves, etc.).

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby ucbkenn » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:48 am

My boyfriend got a 172 in June, retook it in October and got a 175. There is always the chance of doing worse, but if you put in enough time I think it can be done. Good luck!

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby snailio » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:51 am

Specify? if it's a 171 and your gpa is say 3.85, then a retake is definitely in order, if on the other hand you have say a 3.97+ gpa and a 173+ I would just stand.

P.S. never leave any practice tests unused.

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby Berkeley13 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:09 am

It was a 173. My GPA right now is a 4, but it'll go down (possibly significantly) after I transfer, especially if I get in to my top choice.

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby Seneca » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:51 am

Berkeley13 wrote:It was a 173. My GPA right now is a 4, but it'll go down (possibly significantly) after I transfer, especially if I get in to my top choice.


Wait and see what your GPA is looking like in a year or so. Or even just a semester or two after you transfer - it probably won't go down as much as you think. 4.0/173 has a decent shot at Harvard, based on LSN data. A 3.88/173 will be getting T14 scholarships. Right now, just enjoy your score.

If you do decide to retake - as in, you have a 3.88 but know you can hit 175+ - go ahead and do it. People might give you crap for it and tell you to stand on the 173 (and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that) but I know a couple people who have seen 4+ bumps after retaking a 170+. I seriously considered retaking this October myself. Just put in the time. You only need to brush up on a couple of finer points, you clearly have the aptitude to go even higher. Good luck.

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby suspicious android » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:27 am

173 is above the median at every school. So the only benefit of retaking is to get above the 75th percentile at HYC which for a retaker doesn't seem to make a huge difference. Frankly though, you should just quit thinking about this shit and focus on learning a lot and enjoying your last three years of college. If, two years from now, you think you're sharper, go for a retake. Doing it before then is just neurotic.

Oh, and I re-took a 173. I went up. Don't know that it made any difference in my applications, but it made me feel I had finally "beaten" the LSAT, which is a pretty stupid reason to waste 100 hours of my life studying.

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby snailio » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:49 am

You are in a good spot right now, just keep ringing that bell at 4.0 and then check the medians at HYS the year you apply, you can then reconsider the LSAT retake, which most likely will be unnecessary.

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby senorhosh » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:04 am

DON'T retake just yet.

You're above median for both. Harvard only wants you to take the LSAT once (although it seems multiple scores don't make much of a difference).

You said 173 is in your PT range. If you were consistently scoring 177-178, then I'd say go for it. But let's say your range is 171-175. A 175 over a 173 with your GPA isn't much of a difference. However, a 171 after a 173 will look pretty bad, especially for HYS. The risk/rewards don't work out very well. Also, you made stupid mistakes but what is barring you from making the same mistakes next time?

Keep your GPA up at the 4. If it drops substantially then retake, and even then I'd still be wary. I would only retake if I were scoring 177+ in all those 10 unused PTs you have.

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby American_in_China » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:22 am

172 to 179. Retake if you think you can score higher. If you believe you've topped out, then stand where you are.

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby arozen89 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:38 pm

I am in a similar situation and don't know if I should retake or not. I was scoring mid 170's in all of my PT's and I ended up getting a 170. While I am thrilled at the score, I can't help but think I left some points on the table. I have a 3.98 gpa from a top 25 undergrad and am an URM. I want to have a shot at HYS, but I fear that with my numbers, I will be all but assured a rejection from the top 3.

Thoughts?!

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Re: Retaking a 170+?

Postby senorhosh » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:42 pm

arozen89 wrote:I am in a similar situation and don't know if I should retake or not. I was scoring mid 170's in all of my PT's and I ended up getting a 170. While I am thrilled at the score, I can't help but think I left some points on the table. I have a 3.98 gpa from a top 25 undergrad and am an URM. I want to have a shot at HYS, but I fear that with my numbers, I will be all but assured a rejection from the top 3.

Thoughts?!


IMO it won't make much of a difference. You're URM. I think you're good for HYS.




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