Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

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Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Triveal » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:35 am

I'm talking about circular, mapping, pure sequencing ("The Forgotten Few") at the end of the LG bible. Worth it to get extra practice, since not many official games exist?

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby tmon » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:37 am

I'd say yes, but not at the expense of normal types. Some rare games have shown up on experimental sections lately, which is how they test out future sections. Not sure if they often scrap experimental games or not, but it's entirely possible that they'll show up and a good idea to know how to tackle them without freaking out.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby glucose101 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:38 am

If time/effort permits, I would take them to take them--but as they're rare, there's really no pattern to them. And as such, it would be just see to see if you could complete that unique game.
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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Angrygeopolitically » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:58 am

yes

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Postby Tom Joad » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:59 am

If the LSAT was purely mapping games I would have got a 180.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby SarahKerrigan » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:07 am

I don't think it could hurt to take some time getting yourself at least somewhat familiar with them.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Jeffort » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:11 am

Triveal wrote:I'm talking about circular, mapping, pure sequencing ("The Forgotten Few") at the end of the LG bible. Worth it to get extra practice, since not many official games exist?


Yes, but don't give much of any thought to and don't stress about mapping games.

Also, since you are trying to get into law school you should be honorable/ethical and purchase the materials you are using to prep with instead of committing intellectual property theft by pirating the documents through torrents. You are using the first edition of the LGB from a pdf file. The current version is almost twice the number of pages. You can get a paper copy to carry around and read wherever you go for about half the amount of $$ it costs per month to make an iPhone work.

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Postby bp shinners » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:16 pm

Most of those games come down to a gimmick that you can use to unlock any of them, so if you study them enough to get that gimmick down, you should be good. Especially since, chances are, you won't have to use it.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby tmon » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:25 pm

Jeffort wrote:
Triveal wrote:I'm talking about circular, mapping, pure sequencing ("The Forgotten Few") at the end of the LG bible. Worth it to get extra practice, since not many official games exist?


Yes, but don't give much of any thought to and don't stress about mapping games.

Also, since you are trying to get into law school you should be honorable/ethical and purchase the materials you are using to prep with instead of committing intellectual property theft by pirating the documents through torrents. You are using the first edition of the LGB from a pdf file. The current version is almost twice the number of pages. You can get a paper copy to carry around and read wherever you go for about half the amount of $$ it costs per month to make an iPhone work.

Isn't it at least possible that that they have the physical version of the old LGB or am I missing something?

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Triveal » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:49 pm

Jeffort wrote:
Triveal wrote:I'm talking about circular, mapping, pure sequencing ("The Forgotten Few") at the end of the LG bible. Worth it to get extra practice, since not many official games exist?


Yes, but don't give much of any thought to and don't stress about mapping games.

Also, since you are trying to get into law school you should be honorable/ethical and purchase the materials you are using to prep with instead of committing intellectual property theft by pirating the documents through torrents. You are using the first edition of the LGB from a pdf file. The current version is almost twice the number of pages. You can get a paper copy to carry around and read wherever you go for about half the amount of $$ it costs per month to make an iPhone work.



Not really understanding your reasoning, but I own new hardcopies off of amazon. There are 2 +/- 1 game for each 'forgotten' type. Perhaps I worded my question incorrectly; I should have asked if they are worth worrying about beyond just doing the LG bible section.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby paul34 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:54 pm

I would at least go over circular and pure sequencing. In general, they aren't too bad so it should take much time anyhoo.

But no, don't neglect your study of more common types if that is the only way you can study these rare types.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Ginj » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:07 pm

My experimental LG had a circular game.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Jeffort » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:59 pm

tmon wrote:
Jeffort wrote:
Triveal wrote:I'm talking about circular, mapping, pure sequencing ("The Forgotten Few") at the end of the LG bible. Worth it to get extra practice, since not many official games exist?


Yes, but don't give much of any thought to and don't stress about mapping games.

Also, since you are trying to get into law school you should be honorable/ethical and purchase the materials you are using to prep with instead of committing intellectual property theft by pirating the documents through torrents. You are using the first edition of the LGB from a pdf file. The current version is almost twice the number of pages. You can get a paper copy to carry around and read wherever you go for about half the amount of $$ it costs per month to make an iPhone work.


Isn't it at least possible that that they have the physical version of the old LGB or am I missing something?


It came out in 2002 and the current updated version was first published in 2008. I suppose there could be some hand-me-down copies still floating around, somebody has been prepping for the LSAT for up to nine years, or an old copy hasn't been stolen from/not-returned to an obscure library somewhere and is still available to check-out. I'll stick with the common sense reasonable conclusion.

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Not really understanding your reasoning, but I own new hardcopies off of amazon. There are 2 +/- 1 game for each 'forgotten' type. Perhaps I worded my question incorrectly; I should have asked if they are worth worrying about beyond just doing the LG bible section.



Ok. In the current version there is an entire chapter titled "Pure Sequencing Games" whereas in the old version floating around in torrents pure sequencing was in the "Forgotten Few" chapter.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Triveal » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:14 pm

Jeffort wrote:
tmon wrote:
Jeffort wrote:
Triveal wrote:I'm talking about circular, mapping, pure sequencing ("The Forgotten Few") at the end of the LG bible. Worth it to get extra practice, since not many official games exist?


Yes, but don't give much of any thought to and don't stress about mapping games.

Also, since you are trying to get into law school you should be honorable/ethical and purchase the materials you are using to prep with instead of committing intellectual property theft by pirating the documents through torrents. You are using the first edition of the LGB from a pdf file. The current version is almost twice the number of pages. You can get a paper copy to carry around and read wherever you go for about half the amount of $$ it costs per month to make an iPhone work.


Isn't it at least possible that that they have the physical version of the old LGB or am I missing something?


It came out in 2002 and the current updated version was first published in 2008. I suppose there could be some hand-me-down copies still floating around, somebody has been prepping for the LSAT for up to nine years, or an old copy hasn't been stolen from/not-returned to an obscure library somewhere and is still available to check-out. I'll stick with the common sense reasonable conclusion.


I still don't really understand what you're basing this accusation on. Could you explain why you think I'm pirating prep books?

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Jeffort » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:34 pm

Triveal wrote:
I still don't really understand what you're basing this accusation on. Could you explain why you think I'm pirating prep books?



I amended my post above to answer your question and will leave it at that. I've already been called a douchebag a couple of times here since Saturday for being anal and outspoken about the rules.

You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you do of getting a mapping game. They appear to be dead, the last true mapping game was administered in 1993 unless you count the Zendu radar game from 1995, but it is really just a weird one-of-a kind warped grouping game.

Circular sequencing is not dead and may pop up again in the future. Pattern type games, depending on how you define the category, pop up occasionally. Work through/study/review all of the games in the available PrepTests if you can.
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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby butchcassidy » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:39 pm

I think it depends on how much time you have to devote to studying LG. If you're pretty busy and don't have a lot of time leading up the LSAT, I would focus on the more common types of games (linear, grouping, etc) because that's what you're going to be faced with, most likely.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby Triveal » Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:42 pm

I went through the entire book in a couple days, and since the two main game types comprise about 75% of the book (and on their own are several times longer than any other section), I sort of blended the rest into a "rare game types" category in my head.

Not that I need to prove anything to you, but you may want to avoid blindly accusing people in the future.


Anyway, I think I decided that mapping deserves a little extra attention because the ideas are pretty different; circular games function nearly identically to linear ones, so I won't worry much about them. Thanks everyone.

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Re: Are the "rare" LG types really worth studying for?

Postby American_in_China » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:59 pm

Yes. They force you to be creative and analytical without a test book guiding you via set up.




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