Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

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Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby omeezy4sheezy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:11 pm

It's not that I'm really running out of time or anything, but that I'm just straight up getting them wrong. I usually have about 6 or so minutes around the 20th question. I seem to have a high incorrect ratio that screws up my LR score. I'll get about -2/3 for the first 20 then usually -4/5 for the last five.

The LR obviously gets progressively harder, but I was wondering if someone experienced this and how they surpassed it (assuming they did).

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby sfamor » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:15 pm

I'm having this exact same problem! I always have plenty of time left, but the last 3-5 questions I consistently struggle with. The only questions I ever get wrong are, without fail, on the last two pages. Are these questions generally harder or is it that we're just fatigued by the end? Someone suggested to start at the end of the section and work towards the front in LR. I haven't tried it, but maybe I'll give it a shot of my next PT

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:17 pm

6 minutes for the last 5-7 questions isn't very much. If you can improve your speed to where you finish the first 15 in 15 minutes, you'll get the extra time at the end to really bear down on the last five.

@sfamor: Some folks in the October 2011 study thread have been experiencing success with starting at question 15. Might be worth a shot for both you guys.

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby omeezy4sheezy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:18 pm

sfamor wrote:I'm having this exact same problem! I always have plenty of time left, but the last 3-5 questions I consistently struggle with. The only questions I ever get wrong are, without fail, on the last two pages. Are these questions generally harder or is it that we're just fatigued by the end? Someone suggested to start at the end of the section and work towards the front in LR. I haven't tried it, but maybe I'll give it a shot of my next PT


Yeah I've been recommended that strategy but am worried about wasting time with it with only a week or so left until the test. They are definitely harder, IMO and plus the fact that we're getting fatigued counts as well. I'll also try on tomorrow's PT and update on what happened. If I can solve this problem, I'd finally be hitting 165.

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby omeezy4sheezy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:24 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:6 minutes for the last 5-7 questions isn't very much. If you can improve your speed to where you finish the first 15 in 15 minutes, you'll get the extra time at the end to really bear down on the last five.

@sfamor: Some folks in the October 2011 study thread have been experiencing success with starting at question 15. Might be worth a shot for both you guys.

Thanks man. I've seen some of the stuff you've posted before so I'll take your recommendation with more credence. What usually happens is that I get caught up on 2-3 questions in the first 15 that end up affecting the time left for the last 5.

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby iowalum » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:01 pm

If it makes you feel better I just started doing the 15-24/6 then 1-15 strategy last week and I've already seen an improvement. (I actually do 15-24/6, then 8-15, then 1-8), give it a try.

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby Obelisk18 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:27 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:6 minutes for the last 5-7 questions isn't very much. If you can improve your speed to where you finish the first 15 in 15 minutes, you'll get the extra time at the end to really bear down on the last five.

@sfamor: Some folks in the October 2011 study thread have been experiencing success with starting at question 15. Might be worth a shot for both you guys.


Yeah, on the newer LR's when I get to number 20 I have, on average, 13 mins left and I still rarely finish with more than 5 mins at the end of a section (2 or 3 of which, I'll typically use to review 1 or more of the last 5 questions). I can't imagine trying to do the last 5 questions in 6 mins without serious accuracy problems. Think about it. If you have 6 minutes left after 20 questions then you've spent 29 minutes on the first 20 questions. Or, approximately, 1 minute and 25 seconds per question. With 6 minutes for 5 questions, You're leaving yourself 1 minute and 12 seconds per question. Even if they weren't tougher than the first 20, you'd expect your accuracy to decrease. Given that they are tougher, I'm not surprised your accuracy is completely collapsing.

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby iwanta170 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:14 pm

Starting with question 15 is a big mistake for many obvious reasons.

Work on getting through the first 15 in 15 minutes without sacrificing accuracy and you should have plenty of time for the harder questions plus more confidence.

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby tehrocstar » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:19 pm

The consensus seems to be

1-15: Easiest questions, while ramping up in difficulty
16-22/23: Hardest LR questions
24+: Become progressively easier, but harder than 1-15

Some recommended that you do 1-15 in 15 minutes, and then work from the last question back to 16. Though, opinions vary on this, experiment, see what works best for you.

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Re: Screwing up the last 5 questions from LR section

Postby lrslayer » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:05 pm

its actually starting at 11 not 15
you need at least a couple easy questions before you get into the third fold
i have been using this method and find i am done and having 5+ minutes left to check answers
i'm going -2 on lr now
this method is probably not for everyone but if you find you are the one who spends too much time agonizing over the first ten easy questions, ie overthinking their simplicity, then this may work for you
another implication of this method other than extra time is that your brain is not so fatigued by the time you get to the difficult questions.




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