Embarrassed...

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Embarrassed...

Postby ESWIM » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:41 pm

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

So I started with Testmasters in Mid-July. My first Diagnostic was a 142. Since then I have been studying anywhere from 3-6 hours a day. I took my third diagnostic today after getting both LR and LG bibles and I hit a 144 (same score from my second)

Felt like the studying that I was doing would have been good enough to bring me into the 150's. I just took another Practice test in my room and I hit 147.

Ideally I would want to get over a 160, but is that even possible with these scores with October's test coming up?

My best scores are -22 on LR, -9 on LR and -10 on LG

any help would be greatly appreciated again, because I am in panic mode


OR...should I just aim for December?

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby JamMasterJ » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:59 pm

December

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby lothsome » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:40 pm

December.

If you started in July and you're having this much trouble, something is missing from your practice.

Are you doing Practice Tests (the official LSAC ones)? The sheer amount should help you familiarize yourself with the material.

Are you able to stay focused, so that your thoughts don't wander at all, when you're working on the questions?

Do you have a solid understanding of basic logical principles (1st order and predicate logic should be sufficient)?

Have you gone back to every question/passage/game that you've had trouble with, examined them in detail, and worked out why you made mistakes/why the correct answer is the correct answer? Additionally, have you taken the time in LG to rework any game that took a long time, and think of various approaches to the game that help you solve it more efficiently?

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby JamMasterJ » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:46 pm

lothsome wrote:December.
If you started in July and you're having this much trouble, something is missing from your practice.

Are you doing Practice Tests (the official LSAC ones)? The sheer amount should help you familiarize yourself with the material.

Are you able to stay focused, so that your thoughts don't wander at all, when you're working on the questions?

Do you have a solid understanding of basic logical principles
(1st order and predicate logic should be sufficient)?
Have you gone back to every question/passage/game that you've had trouble with, examined them in detail, and worked out why you made mistakes/why the correct answer is the correct answer? Additionally, have you taken the time in LG to rework any game that took a long time, and think of various approaches to the game that help you solve it more efficiently?
I post because I think it makes me look smart

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby lothsome » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:51 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
I post because I think it makes me look smart
I post because I have no desire to offer anything like constructive advice, but I do enjoy trolling.


FTFY

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby ESWIM » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:55 pm

So I actually get a majority of the concepts. Especially in LR, it just does not come together for me as a whole.

Whenever I take a exam in class and look at the answer that I picked and the correct answer, the right answer is so obvious to me. It kinda makes me feel like I blacked out during reading of the stimuli.

My Reading Comprehension is not bad, I just find myself tailing off and missing big connecting parts. But when I am focused I am getting averaging -1 to -2 a passage.

Logic Games just freak me out to be honest. Whenever I go over them after the exam, I find myself able to answer a lot of them, but not all.

I figure if I wait till December, I have a much better chance at a better school even though my application is late.

The problem is Other than buying another LSAT practice book and redoing the Bibles and PS books...I am running out of ideas to make this work. But I realize that I should be testing much higher this late in the Game

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby AffordablePrep » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:01 pm

Dude, you improved 5 points in one month. You've done a great job so far. However, starting at a 142 it is naive to think 2 months of prep will get you into a half decent law school. The rule of thumb is that if you are 5 points from a score you'd be happy with with a month to go, it is more prudent to wait.

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby AffordablePrep » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:03 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
lothsome wrote:December.
If you started in July and you're having this much trouble, something is missing from your practice.

Are you doing Practice Tests (the official LSAC ones)? The sheer amount should help you familiarize yourself with the material.

Are you able to stay focused, so that your thoughts don't wander at all, when you're working on the questions?

Do you have a solid understanding of basic logical principles
(1st order and predicate logic should be sufficient)?
Have you gone back to every question/passage/game that you've had trouble with, examined them in detail, and worked out why you made mistakes/why the correct answer is the correct answer? Additionally, have you taken the time in LG to rework any game that took a long time, and think of various approaches to the game that help you solve it more efficiently?
I post because I think it makes me look smart

Completely correct. This much trouble after a month? If you find one person in the US who improved from a 142 to a 165 in one month who did not cheat, I'd be very surprised.

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby kahechsof » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:04 pm

AffordablePrep wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
lothsome wrote:December.
If you started in July and you're having this much trouble, something is missing from your practice.

Are you doing Practice Tests (the official LSAC ones)? The sheer amount should help you familiarize yourself with the material.

Are you able to stay focused, so that your thoughts don't wander at all, when you're working on the questions?

Do you have a solid understanding of basic logical principles
(1st order and predicate logic should be sufficient)?
Have you gone back to every question/passage/game that you've had trouble with, examined them in detail, and worked out why you made mistakes/why the correct answer is the correct answer? Additionally, have you taken the time in LG to rework any game that took a long time, and think of various approaches to the game that help you solve it more efficiently?
I post because I think it makes me look smart

Completely correct. This much trouble after a month? If you find one person in the US who improved from a 142 to a 165 in one month who did not cheat, I'd be very surprised.


Egregious pro-cheating trolling.

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby AffordablePrep » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:05 pm

kahechsof wrote:
AffordablePrep wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
lothsome wrote:December.
If you started in July and you're having this much trouble, something is missing from your practice.

Are you doing Practice Tests (the official LSAC ones)? The sheer amount should help you familiarize yourself with the material.

Are you able to stay focused, so that your thoughts don't wander at all, when you're working on the questions?

Do you have a solid understanding of basic logical principles
(1st order and predicate logic should be sufficient)?
Have you gone back to every question/passage/game that you've had trouble with, examined them in detail, and worked out why you made mistakes/why the correct answer is the correct answer? Additionally, have you taken the time in LG to rework any game that took a long time, and think of various approaches to the game that help you solve it more efficiently?
I post because I think it makes me look smart

Completely correct. This much trouble after a month? If you find one person in the US who improved from a 142 to a 165 in one month who did not cheat, I'd be very surprised.

No more so than saying a baseball player who goes from 10 home runs to 40 home runs in one season took steroids is pro-steroid cheating.
Egregious pro-cheating trolling.

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby northwood » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:46 pm

eye deeer brady anderson

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby AffordablePrep » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:47 pm

rich aurillia

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:57 am

Roger Maris.

OP: Wait until December. My guess is your instructor is not that good, but make sure to do all of the homework and get to class thirty minutes early to ask questions.

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby lakers3peat » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:03 am

take advantage of their materials while you have them because as soon as october comes around they are cutting you off---that means no more online videos no more instructor hotline, NOTHING. they teach you while you're their student then throw you out to the wolves once you aren't. So yeah do the homework and ask as many freakin questions as possible.

also, you want to aim for december IMO. If you havent done EVERY PRACTICE TEST, you haven't done enough. Once you take a ton of tests and REVIEW a ton of tests, you start to recognize how test questions are designed, what your weakenesses are, what common logical flaws come up etc. etc. in conclusion, you havent studied enough. I've prepped for about 9 months and I'm still far from perfect.

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Re: Embarrassed...

Postby Spacemyace » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:56 am

lakers3peat wrote:take advantage of their materials while you have them because as soon as october comes around they are cutting you off---that means no more online videos no more instructor hotline, NOTHING. they teach you while you're their student then throw you out to the wolves once you aren't. So yeah do the homework and ask as many freakin questions as possible.

also, you want to aim for december IMO. If you havent done EVERY PRACTICE TEST, you haven't done enough. Once you take a ton of tests and REVIEW a ton of tests, you start to recognize how test questions are designed, what your weakenesses are, what common logical flaws come up etc. etc. in conclusion, you havent studied enough. I've prepped for about 9 months and I'm still far from perfect.


Lakers3peat, you are awesome. I have read most of your threads and I can't help but to conclude that you are awesome at least with the quality of advise you give. You will serve as a mentor and I hope to relate with you more because of your positive energy. Thanks for all the unbias encouragement you've given to others. Just to let you know, I am a K_B_'s fan.




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