LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Jack Smirks » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:09 pm

Megan170 wrote:
naterj wrote:Why did you report me yesterday? I know my views can be a bit controversial but I still think they're worth taking into consideration.


I'm not sure what views you stated that you are now concerned about? Sorry, I honestly don't recall an exchange with you.

Perhaps you need special accommodations for your memory? Someone who writes down stuff for you in a notebook or something?

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby bjsesq » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:10 pm

naterj wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
naterj wrote:Why did you report me yesterday? I know my views can be a bit controversial but I still think they're worth taking into consideration.


I'm not sure what views you stated that you are now concerned about? Sorry, I honestly don't recall an exchange with you.

Perhaps you need special accommodations for your memory? Someone who writes down stuff for you in a notebook or something?


Grow up. Tired of the childishness on this site.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Jack Smirks » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:13 pm

bjsesq wrote:
naterj wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
naterj wrote:Why did you report me yesterday? I know my views can be a bit controversial but I still think they're worth taking into consideration.


I'm not sure what views you stated that you are now concerned about? Sorry, I honestly don't recall an exchange with you.

Perhaps you need special accommodations for your memory? Someone who writes down stuff for you in a notebook or something?


Grow up. Tired of the childishness on this site.

How convenient of you to white knight her. Maybe you should volunteer your time to tutor her for the LSAT. Coach her through 1L?

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby bjsesq » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:14 pm

naterj wrote:How convenient of you to white knight her. Maybe you should volunteer your time to tutor her for the LSAT. Coach her through 1L?


Typical TLS response. God forbid someone thinks differently than you. Let Megan do what she thinks is right.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby JamMasterJ » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:18 pm

bjsesq wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I'll add you as a friend on here if that's okay.


Please do.

People actually use the "add friend" feature?

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby incompetentia » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:21 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I'll add you as a friend on here if that's okay.


Please do.

People actually use the "add friend" feature?

How did that snark get into your post? Did you mean to do that?

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby soj » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:22 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I'll add you as a friend on here if that's okay.


Please do.

People actually use the "add friend" feature?

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Blessedassurance » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:22 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I'll add you as a friend on here if that's okay.


Please do.

People actually use the "add friend" feature?


it's just for booty-calls and even then it's only effective within a 64-mile radius.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby JamMasterJ » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:24 pm

soj wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I'll add you as a friend on here if that's okay.


Please do.

People actually use the "add friend" feature?

Image

I guess I'm just foreveralone :shock:

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Eichörnchen » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:27 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
soj wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
Please do.

People actually use the "add friend" feature?

Image

I guess I'm just foreveralone :shock:

I haven't done it either. I don't even know what it does. :?

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Jack Smirks » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:30 pm

bjsesq wrote:
naterj wrote:How convenient of you to white knight her. Maybe you should volunteer your time to tutor her for the LSAT. Coach her through 1L?

Typical TLS response. God forbid someone thinks differently than you. Let Megan do what she thinks is right.

What does she think is right? I'd wait for a reply but it seems like she might have ran off to find special accommodations for the interwebs. COME BACK MEGAN! BJS CAN SAVE YOU FROM THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL!

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby bjsesq » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:39 pm

naterj wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
naterj wrote:How convenient of you to white knight her. Maybe you should volunteer your time to tutor her for the LSAT. Coach her through 1L?

Typical TLS response. God forbid someone thinks differently than you. Let Megan do what she thinks is right.

What does she think is right? I'd wait for a reply but it seems like she might have ran off to find special accommodations for the interwebs. COME BACK MEGAN! BJS CAN SAVE YOU FROM THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL!


I think she can do that fine by herself. I am just trying to help.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby JamMasterJ » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:57 pm

Eichörnchen wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:I guess I'm just foreveralone :shock:

I haven't done it either. I don't even know what it does. :?

ftme

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Megan170 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:43 pm

bjsesq wrote:
naterj wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
naterj wrote:How convenient of you to white knight her. Maybe you should volunteer your time to tutor her for the LSAT. Coach her through 1L?

Typical TLS response. God forbid someone thinks differently than you. Let Megan do what she thinks is right.

What does she think is right? I'd wait for a reply but it seems like she might have ran off to find special accommodations for the interwebs. COME BACK MEGAN! BJS CAN SAVE YOU FROM THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL!


I think she can do that fine by herself. I am just trying to help.


No, I did not run off. Bjsesq, thank you. I really appreciate your help. I agree regarding the Typical TLS response. It's difficult for some folks to acknowledge there is more than one way to do things well or to exist. Differences in thinking and ways of doing things scare folks, which is why disabilities are shunned and discriminated against. Examine any form of discrimination and that fear will be what it hinges on. It always interests me to see how once the discrimination becomes unlawful or otherwise not the social more (usually these two are intertwined), the comments of those who would discriminate sound even worse than they did before. Ever watch the movie Philadelphia? Now think about what some of what goes in that would look like today. Think about how what was accepted even 20 years ago as standard is now taboo. Talk about a 180.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby soj » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:45 pm

Megan170 wrote:
bjsesq wrote:I think she can do that fine by herself. I am just trying to help.


No, I did not run off. Bjsesq, thank you. I really appreciate your help. I agree regarding the Typical TLS response. It's difficult for some folks to acknowledge there is more than one way to do things well or to exist. Differences in thinking and ways of doing things scare folks, which is why disabilities are shunned and discriminated against. Examine any form of discrimination and that fear will be what it hinges on. It always interests me to see how once the discrimination becomes unlawful or otherwise not the social more (usually these two are intertwined), the comments of those who would discriminate sound even worse than they did before. Ever watch the movie Philadelphia? Now think about what some of what goes in that would look like today. Think about how what was accepted even 20 years ago as standard is now taboo. Talk about a 180.

180*, if LSAT has its way with its unfair ableist policies.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby incompetentia » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:47 pm

People who score high are just pawns of the system. You have to step outside to see.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Megan170 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:47 pm

soj wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
bjsesq wrote:I think she can do that fine by herself. I am just trying to help.


No, I did not run off. Bjsesq, thank you. I really appreciate your help. I agree regarding the Typical TLS response. It's difficult for some folks to acknowledge there is more than one way to do things well or to exist. Differences in thinking and ways of doing things scare folks, which is why disabilities are shunned and discriminated against. Examine any form of discrimination and that fear will be what it hinges on. It always interests me to see how once the discrimination becomes unlawful or otherwise not the social more (usually these two are intertwined), the comments of those who would discriminate sound even worse than they did before. Ever watch the movie Philadelphia? Now think about what some of what goes in that would look like today. Think about how what was accepted even 20 years ago as standard is now taboo. Talk about a 180.

180*, if LSAT has its way with its unfair ableist policies.


Sorry, not sure what you mean.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Megan170 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:05 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:Schools get to know that you received an accommodation just like they get to know your race and where you went to undergrad. Doesn't mean they are obligated to make a decision based on any of those factors.


Right, but let's separate out undergrad for a second. Just because it's not a biology-deriving or physical characteristic specific to person, which both race and disability are. A school can indeed get to know your race, but that's the reason there's affirmative action, so that does not count against folks. A school getting to know that you have a disability of some sort in no way is an asset to the applicant. They made race an asset to make things more equal, in an effort prevent it being a reason to reject someone. Sounds absurd that they should have had to have done that (put that in place) today, but that's how it had to be to prevent the disgusting discrimination African Americans had had thrown at them. Same thing with disability. Not the fault of the person that has it, but counts against them anyway and nothing in place to make it not. LSAC discriminates by disclosing this information as if it were relevant to score. How can it be when the accommodation was used in the test to render it irrelevant.

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Postby FeelTheHeat » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:10 am

Megan, if you haven't noticed, I pride myself on being pretty level headed and a poster most people can relate to and confide in. Unlike others who either want to get you to love or fight with them, I just want you to enjoy your experience on TLS. Shoot me a PM if you want some saner conversation!

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Postby LSATmakesMeNeurotic » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:24 am

FeelTheHeat wrote:Megan, if you haven't noticed, I pride myself on being pretty level headed and a poster most people can relate to and confide in. Unlike others who either want to get you to love or fight with them, I just want you to enjoy your experience on TLS. Shoot me a PM if you want some saner conversation!


Aww, another white knight! How cute. Megan, you're really lucky all of the decent people on TLS have found your post and the REALLY mean ones have stayed away.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Kilpatrick » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:38 am

Is Aspberger's really a documented disability under the ADA?

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:46 pm

Megan170 wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:Schools get to know that you received an accommodation just like they get to know your race and where you went to undergrad. Doesn't mean they are obligated to make a decision based on any of those factors.


Right, but let's separate out undergrad for a second. Just because it's not a biology-deriving or physical characteristic specific to person, which both race and disability are. A school can indeed get to know your race, but that's the reason there's affirmative action, so that does not count against folks. A school getting to know that you have a disability of some sort in no way is an asset to the applicant. They made race an asset to make things more equal, in an effort prevent it being a reason to reject someone. Sounds absurd that they should have had to have done that (put that in place) today, but that's how it had to be to prevent the disgusting discrimination African Americans had had thrown at them. Same thing with disability. Not the fault of the person that has it, but counts against them anyway and nothing in place to make it not. LSAC discriminates by disclosing this information as if it were relevant to score. How can it be when the accommodation was used in the test to render it irrelevant.


They made race an asset? Who the fuck are "they"? Martin Luther King Jr.? Lyndon Johnson? Malcolm X?

Schools choose to use affirmative action. It isn't forced on them by the federal government, nor should it be.

You likely won't get the same accommodations in law school exams as you receive on the LSAT, which is why it's important for the schools to know what they are dealing with.

At the end of the day, law school is a poor gamble for a significant number of matriculants, so in a roundabout way this "separate but equal" policy might just be doing you a favor. Good luck!

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Megan170 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:22 pm

LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:Megan, if you haven't noticed, I pride myself on being pretty level headed and a poster most people can relate to and confide in. Unlike others who either want to get you to love or fight with them, I just want you to enjoy your experience on TLS. Shoot me a PM if you want some saner conversation!


Aww, another white knight! How cute. Megan, you're really lucky all of the decent people on TLS have found your post and the REALLY mean ones have stayed away.


Ha, yeah, I guess so. I don't really consider people finding a post and being decent human beings luck, though, or really mean ones staying away as that either. Actually, I don't consider most of the really mean ones mean, per se, just uninformed, misguided, biased, or a combination of things. What appears to be meanness comes from these things, or an added dose of insecurity! I feel genuine sorrow that they make themselves into such fools based on all of the above.

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Re: LSAT Accommodation? Additional Time.

Postby Megan170 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:27 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
Megan170 wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:Schools get to know that you received an accommodation just like they get to know your race and where you went to undergrad. Doesn't mean they are obligated to make a decision based on any of those factors.


Right, but let's separate out undergrad for a second. Just because it's not a biology-deriving or physical characteristic specific to person, which both race and disability are. A school can indeed get to know your race, but that's the reason there's affirmative action, so that does not count against folks. A school getting to know that you have a disability of some sort in no way is an asset to the applicant. They made race an asset to make things more equal, in an effort prevent it being a reason to reject someone. Sounds absurd that they should have had to have done that (put that in place) today, but that's how it had to be to prevent the disgusting discrimination African Americans had had thrown at them. Same thing with disability. Not the fault of the person that has it, but counts against them anyway and nothing in place to make it not. LSAC discriminates by disclosing this information as if it were relevant to score. How can it be when the accommodation was used in the test to render it irrelevant.


They made race an asset? Who the fuck are "they"? Martin Luther King Jr.? Lyndon Johnson? Malcolm X?

Schools choose to use affirmative action. It isn't forced on them by the federal government, nor should it be.

You likely won't get the same accommodations in law school exams as you receive on the LSAT, which is why it's important for the schools to know what they are dealing with.

At the end of the day, law school is a poor gamble for a significant number of matriculants, so in a roundabout way this "separate but equal" policy might just be doing you a favor. Good luck!


Good question regarding "they." The Supreme Court and the government. It didn't have to be forced on schools; not doing it is seen as wrong, as will be the case for disabilities. In terms of doing me a favor, that's a pithy and uninformed remark. "What they are dealing with?" Should they also know that for race? Are they "dealing with" something there as well? Both disability and race are biological and not the "fault" of the person with that characteristic. Your "dealing with" comment is predicated on the notion of blame. Remove the correctness of that and it sounds very silly, indeed. I hope you mature at some point, for your sake as well as the rest of the world's.




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