Finding Argument Flaws

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the_pakalypse
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Finding Argument Flaws

Postby the_pakalypse » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:12 pm

Are most argument flaws supposed to be found between the premises and conclusion(similar to necessary assumptions), or do you have argument flaws that attack the premises sometimes as well?

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Re: Finding Argument Flaws

Postby lawgod » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:15 pm

I can't imagine an argument flaw that would attack the premise.
That would be a factual flaw, seems to me.

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Re: Finding Argument Flaws

Postby EarlCat » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:48 pm

the_pakalypse wrote:do you have argument flaws that attack the premises sometimes as well?

No. Repeat after me:

The premise is always true. THE PREMISE IS ALWAYS TRUE.

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Re: Finding Argument Flaws

Postby KevinP » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:56 pm

When asked for an argument flaw, it's always a flaw between the premises and the conclusion.

However, there have been correct weaken questions which question the validity of a premise.
E.G. PT 44, S2, #20

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Re: Finding Argument Flaws

Postby EarlCat » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:18 am

KevinP wrote:When asked for an argument flaw, it's always a flaw between the premises and the conclusion.

However, there have been correct weaken questions which question the validity of a premise.
E.G. PT 44, S2, #20

That answer doesn't question the validity of a premise, it questions the validity of his research.

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Re: Finding Argument Flaws

Postby KevinP » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:34 am

EarlCat wrote:
KevinP wrote:When asked for an argument flaw, it's always a flaw between the premises and the conclusion.

However, there have been correct weaken questions which question the validity of a premise.
E.G. PT 44, S2, #20

That answer doesn't question the validity of a premise, it questions the validity of his research.


Fair enough. I'll try to be more selective about my wording but either way, the weaken doesn't attack the logical connection between the premise and conclusion but rather the research the premise is based on.

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Re: Finding Argument Flaws

Postby clouds101 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:59 pm

EarlCat wrote:
the_pakalypse wrote:do you have argument flaws that attack the premises sometimes as well?

No. Repeat after me:

The premise is always true. THE PREMISE IS ALWAYS TRUE.


+10000000

I hate it when I fall into the trap of questioning premises on flaw questions. Look for gaps between the conclusion and the premises.




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