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How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:00 pm
by NervousNelly
Hello all,
I did the pithypike guide for this test (althought I did not do enough PTs).
I got a 167 (-4LR, -7LG, -2RC)

As you can see, I need to kick Logic Games in the behind. I did powerscore, and am going to do 30 practice tests before the October LSAT.

Are there any compilations of logic games to just go through and become better (and less mistake-prone)?

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:48 pm
by glucose101
Sounds cliche--but what's your worst LG type? You can't say them all. Find out by looking at the spreadsheet you made for every game you took that includes time and number correct. (If you didn't make one, I feel like that was inefficient planning). Drill that type, along with extremely intense review.

There are careless mistakes, and then there are systematic mistakes. I feel like -7 (practically 1/4 of the section, or simply, a full game) isn't a case of careless errors primarily. I feel that a carefully planned diagram almost always ensures 100% accuracy. Or even if you miss questions, those are careless errors. So generally, I'd say work on diagramming/deductions.

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:49 pm
by JamMasterJ
NervousNelly wrote:Hello all,
I did the pithypike guide for this test (althought I did not do enough PTs).
I got a 167 (-4LR, -7LG, -2RC)

As you can see, I need to kick Logic Games in the behind. I did powerscore, and am going to do 30 practice tests before the October LSAT.

Are there any compilations of logic games to just go through and become better (and less mistake-prone)?
Cambridge by game type or you can just get the old PTs and use the LSAT blog to break them down by game type.

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:27 pm
by NervousNelly
Glucose, it really was not something systemic--I missed two or so on each game, and when I looked it over later, I was instantly able to solve them.

I think I need a volume of questions, especially hard ones, that I can just plough through.

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:34 pm
by glucose101
Then perhaps you need to create more time for yourself so you can take questions slower. Better diagrams=more efficient workings.

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:30 am
by JamMasterJ
NervousNelly wrote:Glucose, it really was not something systemic--I missed two or so on each game, and when I looked it over later, I was instantly able to solve them.

I think I need a volume of questions, especially hard ones, that I can just plough through.
LSAT blog categorizes the supposed "10 hardest LGs ever"

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:30 pm
by Yeshia90
I recommend the Black and Decker.

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Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:33 pm
by iman
PSUdevon wrote:I recommend the Black and Decker.

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loooooooooooooooooool I need one of those for every section :D

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:02 pm
by GoldenGloves
Black&Decker FTW

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:04 pm
by AreJay711
GoldenGloves wrote:Black&Decker FTW
Nah, Craftsman is way better. I say go with a impact drill.

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:06 pm
by nelaw2010
Get this book:

ACE the LSAT Logic Games

These games are tough!!!!!!!!! I also got a 167. Missed -6 on the October 2010 LSAT, which had an EASY LG section. I blow at LG, but I think this book helped me reach close to the top of my potential on LG. Missed -12 on June 2010 LSAT.

http://www.amazon.com/Ace-LSAT-Logic-Ga ... 0974853364

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:31 pm
by iman
nelaw2010 wrote:Get this book:

ACE the LSAT Logic Games

These games are tough!!!!!!!!! I also got a 167. Missed -6 on the October 2010 LSAT, which had an EASY LG section. I blow at LG, but I think this book helped me reach close to the top of my potential on LG. Missed -12 on June 2010 LSAT.

http://www.amazon.com/Ace-LSAT-Logic-Ga ... 0974853364

I bought the book but im not sure when to use it, like at what stage in the studying process, before/ after lgb..., also it has some none lsat pt questions, did you do those too?

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:26 pm
by nelaw2010
iman wrote:
nelaw2010 wrote:Get this book:

ACE the LSAT Logic Games

These games are tough!!!!!!!!! I also got a 167. Missed -6 on the October 2010 LSAT, which had an EASY LG section. I blow at LG, but I think this book helped me reach close to the top of my potential on LG. Missed -12 on June 2010 LSAT.

http://www.amazon.com/Ace-LSAT-Logic-Ga ... 0974853364

I bought the book but im not sure when to use it, like at what stage in the studying process, before/ after lgb..., also it has some none lsat pt questions, did you do those too?
I did a few sections after the PS Bible. Then, before doing a PT, I would do a LG section from this book. So I was doing PT's with 5 sections, plus a section from this book.

Also, check out this site for AWESOME LG info: http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:20 am
by averagek
nelaw2010 wrote:Get this book:

ACE the LSAT Logic Games

These games are tough!!!!!!!!! I also got a 167. Missed -6 on the October 2010 LSAT, which had an EASY LG section. I blow at LG, but I think this book helped me reach close to the top of my potential on LG. Missed -12 on June 2010 LSAT.

http://www.amazon.com/Ace-LSAT-Logic-Ga ... 0974853364
are these real or fake?

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:44 pm
by suspicious android
averagek wrote:are these real or fake?
Fake, in the worst way possible. From the publisher:
LSAC does not want you to see this book! When parts of ACE were posted on YouTube, LSAC (the LSAT creators) thought the games were from previous LSAT. Yes, ACE is really that good! It's good enough to fool LSAC.
They paraphrase actual LSAT games, so when you see them on a regular preptest, you'll realize about a minute or two in that you've already done that game. They also create a lot of their own games, some of which are okay, a few are good and many are non-realistic crap. I got this book used at a closeout or something for like $5. Pretty much a waste, even for someone who has already done all the published games and is looking for something new for casual practice, like I was.

Re: How can I drill these Logic Games into my head?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:05 pm
by nelaw2010
suspicious android wrote:
averagek wrote:are these real or fake?
Fake, in the worst way possible. From the publisher:
LSAC does not want you to see this book! When parts of ACE were posted on YouTube, LSAC (the LSAT creators) thought the games were from previous LSAT. Yes, ACE is really that good! It's good enough to fool LSAC.
They paraphrase actual LSAT games, so when you see them on a regular preptest, you'll realize about a minute or two in that you've already done that game. They also create a lot of their own games, some of which are okay, a few are good and many are non-realistic crap. I got this book used at a closeout or something for like $5. Pretty much a waste, even for someone who has already done all the published games and is looking for something new for casual practice, like I was.
I disagree. I think they are helpful, especially for someone like me who really struggled with the games. I got the idea to use this book from this guy (who got a 180):

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=120471