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deletedemarxnj wrote:Invent the universe
I took BP here in California and it was a great course with a great instructor, the only thing that bothered me is that my instructor simply refused to use formal logic jargon. For later editions, is BP willing to use the universal terms like "antecendent", "consequent", "modus tollens", "modus ponens", etc. Instead of "sufficient", "necessary", "contrapositive"?bp shinners wrote:IMO, taking a formal logic class, while a great way to get a grip on logic, can be a bit of overkill. If it fits into your schedule (and you're a few years off of the LSAT), great, go for it, you'll have no problem with the LSAT logic.
If, however, you're taking the LSAT in 1 or 6 months, that might not be an option.
For me, I think both practice and figuring out your own tricks is best. Don't just practice diagramming (by, say, purchasing a book that lays out which questions you should diagram and then challenges you to do so - though that's a great start), but also spotting which questions can be helpful to diagram. A lot of seemingly difficult questions that don't have diagramming keywords (if, then, only, etc...) can be diagrammed to trivialize that question.
As far as tricks go, the one that seems to help my students the most is restating everything you diagram as an If/Then statement. Most of the time, you can catch an error with this method.
This is a weird thing to be bothered by, in my opinion. "Sufficient", "necessary" and "contrapositive" are in pretty common usage in college courses these days. It mostly depends on your professor or department, I'm sure. But anyway, the language of the Academy isn't really universal, nor is it necessary here. I think dropping the the latin terms and simplifying the jargon is a good move. Makes the concepts more accessible, which is extremely important to prep companies, since they make most of their money on people prepping between about 130 and 160.Ikki wrote:I took BP here in California and it was a great course with a great instructor, the only thing that bothered me is that my instructor simply refused to use formal logic jargon. For later editions, is BP willing to use the universal terms like "antecendent", "consequent", "modus tollens", "modus ponens", etc. Instead of "sufficient", "necessary", "contrapositive"?
After taking a BP course, the LSAT, an intro to logic and a symbolic logic course, knowing the history of formal logic and why we use the Latin terms helped me do well on the LSAT. Maybe it's just a personal quirk, but using the language of the Academy reminded me that what the LSAT is testing is not something found in a vacuum but was a system developed to make better thinkers. And come on, doesn't Modus Tollendo Ponens sound much better than whatever trademarked term BP uses?suspicious android wrote:This is a weird thing to be bothered by, in my opinion. "Sufficient", "necessary" and "contrapositive" are in pretty common usage in college courses these days. It mostly depends on your professor or department, I'm sure. But anyway, the language of the Academy isn't really universal, nor is it necessary here. I think dropping the the latin terms and simplifying the jargon is a good move. Makes the concepts more accessible, which is extremely important to prep companies, since they make most of their money on people prepping between about 130 and 160.Ikki wrote:I took BP here in California and it was a great course with a great instructor, the only thing that bothered me is that my instructor simply refused to use formal logic jargon. For later editions, is BP willing to use the universal terms like "antecendent", "consequent", "modus tollens", "modus ponens", etc. Instead of "sufficient", "necessary", "contrapositive"?
However, I do tend to indulge my students who ask "Is this affirming the consequent?"
This is a good point, something that I don't think is stressed enough and sometimes contradicted by ridiculous system which talk about what's true in "LSAT land" versus the real world.Ikki wrote:. . . using the language of the Academy reminded me that what the LSAT is testing is not something found in a vacuum . . .
This makes no sense, though. Are you sure what he was rolling his eyes about? "Contraposition" comes from latin and has been in use for hundreds of years along with inversion, conversion, obversion. This stuff is considered obsolete since predicate logic pwns classical logic, and I don't think they really teach it anymore in most logic classes. But it's not wrong.Also, FWIW I used the term "contrapositive" with a phil professor once and he just rolled his eyes.
We are not. Thought I'm sure Trent (one of our founders and currently in the middle of his dissertation for a doctorate of philosophy) wouldn't mind.Ikki wrote: I took BP here in California and it was a great course with a great instructor, the only thing that bothered me is that my instructor simply refused to use formal logic jargon. For later editions, is BP willing to use the universal terms like "antecendent", "consequent", "modus tollens", "modus ponens", etc. Instead of "sufficient", "necessary", "contrapositive"?
homestyle28 wrote:THE best way to master it is to go to grad school in philosophy and get a TA gig teaching it. Now the most practical/useful way is probably something else.