LSAT score on computer screen?

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LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby FutureLS10 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:06 am

Should one expect a higher score on a paper LSAT than on an LSAT taken on a computer screen?

I am asking because I recently took my diagnostic on a computer and scored a lower-than-expected 150. I noticed that my eyes were bloodshot after the lengthy period of intensely staring at the monitor. I found myself unable to finish the RC and both LR sections, which is odd since I have a good reading speed (650wpm). Thanks for your responses!

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby luckyme » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:07 am

FutureLS10 wrote:Should one expect a higher score on a paper LSAT than on an LSAT taken on a computer screen?

I am asking because I recently took my diagnostic on a computer and scored a lower-than-expected 150. I noticed that my eyes were bloodshot after the lengthy period of intensely staring at the monitor. I found myself unable to finish the RC and both LR sections, which is odd since I have a good reading speed (650wpm). Thanks for your responses!


how did you do logic games on the computer?

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby berkeleykel06 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:08 am

Try one and find out?

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby FutureLS10 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:21 am

berkeleykel06 wrote:Try one and find out?


Haha, I did not want to use another preptest this early, considering that it was only a diagnostic and there will be plenty of time for those later.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby FutureLS10 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:24 am

luckyme wrote:
FutureLS10 wrote:Should one expect a higher score on a paper LSAT than on an LSAT taken on a computer screen?

I am asking because I recently took my diagnostic on a computer and scored a lower-than-expected 150. I noticed that my eyes were bloodshot after the lengthy period of intensely staring at the monitor. I found myself unable to finish the RC and both LR sections, which is odd since I have a good reading speed (650wpm). Thanks for your responses!


how did you do logic games on the computer?


I used a blank sheet of paper for notes.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby luckyme » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:25 am

FutureLS10 wrote:
luckyme wrote:
FutureLS10 wrote:Should one expect a higher score on a paper LSAT than on an LSAT taken on a computer screen?

I am asking because I recently took my diagnostic on a computer and scored a lower-than-expected 150. I noticed that my eyes were bloodshot after the lengthy period of intensely staring at the monitor. I found myself unable to finish the RC and both LR sections, which is odd since I have a good reading speed (650wpm). Thanks for your responses!


how did you do logic games on the computer?


I used a blank sheet of paper for notes.


lol this sounds like a really useful prep test

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby EarlCat » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:34 am

FutureLS10 wrote:Should one expect a higher score on a paper LSAT than on an LSAT taken on a computer screen?

I am asking because I recently took my diagnostic on a computer and scored a lower-than-expected 150. I noticed that my eyes were bloodshot after the lengthy period of intensely staring at the monitor. I found myself unable to finish the RC and both LR sections, which is odd since I have a good reading speed (650wpm). Thanks for your responses!


I would hate doing LSAT on computer. Bleh.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby amorfati » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:37 am

I've heard that the average person reads at about 75% of their normal reading speed when reading of a computer screen. So yes, I think you could reasonably assume your score would be lower. Also, doing the logic games from a screen would just be crazy annoying... i for one need to make notes on questions, including crossing some answers out, etc. That, and you should get used to the amount of space you get for diagramming.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby FutureLS10 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:07 am

berkeleykel06 wrote:Try one and find out?


Thanks, meat stick.

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Postby HowdyYall » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:18 am

i dont think a practice LSAT taken on a computer is at all indicative of your real LSAT score. I think i wouldve scored at least 15 points lower had LSAT been on a computer. Id use up whole pencils marking/underlining/diagramming each test

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby berkeleykel06 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:25 am

FutureLS10 wrote:
berkeleykel06 wrote:Try one and find out?


Haha, I did not want to use another preptest this early, considering that it was only a diagnostic and there will be plenty of time for those later.

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FutureLS10 wrote:
berkeleykel06 wrote:Try one and find out?


Thanks, meat stick.


Bipolar much?

So let me get this straight. You think taking a preptest in the format that, ya know, the actual exam will be given in to use as a diagnostic will hurt your ability to study for the LSAT because it wastes a prep test, but instead basing your study strategy around the score you got from an online test using scratch paper that you now have to arbitrarily inflate to how you think you'd do on a paper test is a better idea?

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby mallard » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:27 am

one should not expect any particular relation between a preptest taken on a computer with scrap paper for logic games and a real diagnostic

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby clarsen » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:35 pm

I think it depends on the person. My job entails reviewing documents on a computer, so I am well adapt to staring at text on a screen for consecutive hours and actually prefer it to reading text on paper. I also don't write a lot, so using a pencil to fill in bubbles may be a disadvantage to simply checking a box with a cursor. However, using scratch paper vs. writing in a test booklet for the games is a huge advantage. I took the December 2010 test, and on the first game there was almost no space to setup the game.

Regardless of what results you can gather from a computer practice test, the LSAT is not on a computer so I would suggest only taking practice tests using a test booklet, pencil, and highlighter.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby fosterp » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:31 pm

some of these responses are hilarious...

do you really think having scratch paper for LG is THAT much of an advantage? Yeah the dec LG had a shortage of writing space but its just an annoyance not a huge hindrance

its possible reading from a computer screen might make your eyes tired after a while, depends on how your used to it. the only thing I would think that matters is being able to cross out answers, underline stuff for RC, other stuff that I did habitually - if I couldn't do that it would sort of mess up my test momentum. Something about crossing out answers just made my mind think in a more orderly fashion.

That said, for all of the 7-38 PTs I used scratch paper for recording answers and doing LG to avoid making any marks in the book simply because I wanted to resell them when I was done. It didn't seem to be a big deal because all of the 38-61 tests I did in the entirety in the actual books with bubble sheets and all.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby rman1201 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:34 pm

Do real preptests and get the bibles, not some $10 discount lsat prep software.
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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby FutureLS10 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:19 pm

I will take an official prep test tonight and post the results.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby robotclubmember » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:07 pm

You should try to simulate real test-day conditions. I wouldn't train for a boxing match by playing Wii Sports. That's all I have to say about that.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby 2014 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:53 pm

You will do better on paper, but don't count on doing MUCH better.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby FutureLS10 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:52 am

I took a test on paper and earned a 156 - a 6 point increase. I do not think this was entirely a result of the change to paper; I believe my increased familiarity with the exam contributed to the increase as well.

Anyway, given a 156 on my second lsat, do you guys think that a 170 is realistically attainable for me? I plan to take the lsat either this summer or in October, depending on my lsat progress.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby Kurst » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:03 am

Yes, 156->170 is very doable. See this post for a discussion of LSAT score improvement: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=146163#p3938803

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby angua » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:11 pm

I did my first cold diagnostic on a computer and let me tell you, it was not AT ALL indicative of my potential at that time. One week later I took a pencil-and-paper, test-day-simulating PrepTest and scored 13 points higher. In one week.

tl;dr: I do not like computer-based exams.

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby FutureLS10 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:32 pm

angua wrote:I did my first cold diagnostic on a computer and let me tell you, it was not AT ALL indicative of my potential at that time. One week later I took a pencil-and-paper, test-day-simulating PrepTest and scored 13 points higher. In one week.

tl;dr: I do not like computer-based exams.


Wow! I felt that testing on paper was far superior to comp. testing. I was able to crossout wrong answers, read faster, and underline and make notes on the test. All of these helped to increase my score from 150 on the computer to 156 on paper, with no studying in between.

As far as my actual diagnostic results:
LG: -7
LR1: -6 (I answered the first 17 correctly, but I only answered 1 of the last 8 correctly!)
LR2: -8 (I had a similar pattern (to LR1) of 85% correct in the first 18 q's; but, then my accuracy in the latter problems dropped significantly again!)
RC: -11 (I did not get to the last passage, which had 8 q's)

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby angua » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:41 pm

FutureLS10 wrote:
angua wrote:I did my first cold diagnostic on a computer and let me tell you, it was not AT ALL indicative of my potential at that time. One week later I took a pencil-and-paper, test-day-simulating PrepTest and scored 13 points higher. In one week.

tl;dr: I do not like computer-based exams.


Wow! I felt that testing on paper was far superior to comp. testing. I was able to crossout wrong answers, read faster, and underline and make notes on the test. All of these helped to increase my score from 150 on the computer to 156 on paper, with no studying in between.

As far as my actual diagnostic results:
LG: -7
LR1: -6 (I answered the first 17 correctly, but I only answered 1 of the last 8 correctly!)
LR2: -8 (I had a similar pattern (to LR1) of 85% correct in the first 18 q's; but, then my accuracy in the latter problems dropped significantly again!)
RC: -11 (I did not get to the last passage, which had 8 q's)


Being able to write on the test and cross things out was HUGE.

fwiw, the last questions in an LR section tend to be harder, but maybe you're also getting tired at the end of them...? Endurance is tough. And if you're rushing through the last ~8 questions of a section, you might make more mistakes than if you went slower. You might not get to all the questions in a section if you slow down, but doing 3-4 really carefully and guessing on the rest is better than rushing through all of them and getting 1/8 correct. Just my $0.02

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Re: LSAT score on computer screen?

Postby DarkPhantom » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:53 pm

as the LRB says, it is better to do 20, guess on the rest, and get 18 right, than to rush through 25 and get 15 right...




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