Which stat combo would you rather have?

Which stats are better to have and by how much?

3.40 GPA/167 LSAT by a lot
2
2%
3.40 GPA/167 LSAT by a little
7
6%
3.73 GPA/166 LSAT by a little
26
23%
3.73 GPA/166 LSAT by a lot
79
69%
 
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SrLaw
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Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby SrLaw » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:36 pm

Which is better and by how much?

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby 2011Law » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:47 pm

what does the 'by a little / by a lot' mean?

EDIT: nm

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby dextermorgan » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:51 pm

0.33 on GPA is worth much more than 1 LSAT point

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby LSATWIZ » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:53 pm

They are generally considered = (.1 to 1).

However, in terms of which is better it would depend on the school.

If a school's medians are a 170 and 3.7, it is probably better to have a 171 and 3.8 than to have a 172 and 3.7 as you would be above both medians.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby SrLaw » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:21 pm

School 25/75 is

3.28-3.73
160-167

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby LSATWIZ » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:43 pm

the latter.

3.7 and 3.4 are a big difference.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby CanadianWolf » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:45 pm

3.73/166 by a lot because the LSAT score can be improved, but undergraduate GPAs are frozen in time once a degree is awarded.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby swfangirl » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:50 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:3.73/166 by a lot because the LSAT score can be improved, but undergraduate GPAs are frozen in time once a degree is awarded.


You can retake the LSAT. Can't retake undergrad. Also 0.3GPA is worth a lot more than 1 LSAT point.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby Adjudicator » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:52 pm

I'd take the 3.73 GPA, then retake the LSAT and score 175+. 8)

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby gbpackerbacker » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:57 pm

WTF is this?

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby etown989 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:25 am

dumb poll

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby Adjudicator » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:26 am

gbpackerbacker wrote:WTF is this?


This is.....


TLS!

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby T6Hopeful » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:11 am

dextermorgan wrote:0.33 on GPA is worth much more than 1 LSAT point

This...

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby ATR » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:30 am

SrLaw wrote:School 25/75 is

3.28-3.73
160-167

What are the medians?

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby spets » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:37 am

Adjudicator wrote:
gbpackerbacker wrote:WTF is this?


This is.....


TLS!


+1

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby SrLaw » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:55 am

I posted this because a specific school high on my list offers a large scholarship to an individual from my state. Last year the winner had a 166/3.73, I have a 3.41/167, I wanted to see if I had a shot at winning the award.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby androstan » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:08 pm

Generally I believe an LSAT point is worth about 0.067 GPA points. The generic formula is like 15*UGPA + LSAT = Index.

However that formula has limited practical utility, especially at the upper echelon of law schools. The rarity of LSAT scores increases with LSAT score faster than GPA rarity increases with GPA. This is a nonlinear relationship. When you start going a little lower in index the relationship becomes linear and the above formula has more relevance. Thus, a place like Cooley can afford to rely on this formula and indiscriminately apply it to their candidates.

It also has limited or zero utility for splitters. If you're well below a schools 25th percentile on one metric and just barely above the 75th percentile on the other metric your index may be "low" but you may stand a good chance at admission (or even scholarships) anyway.

So the answer to this question depends a little on what school you're trying to go to. However, off the top of my head, I can't think of a school that is so LSAT-heavy that a single LSAT point would be worth .33 GPA points. I'd say that, at some schools, the higher GPA is better by a little and at the majority of schools the higher GPA is better by a lot.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby Chimica » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:32 pm

3.73 + RETAKE!

I think I've got the TLS mantra now.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby redsoxfan2495 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:52 pm

LSATWIZ wrote:They are generally considered = (.1 to 1).
Really? A 3.75 / 172 is the same as a 3.8 / 167?

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby 2011Law » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:58 pm

redsoxfan2495 wrote:
LSATWIZ wrote:They are generally considered = (.1 to 1).
Really? A 3.75 / 172 is the same as a 3.8 / 167?


lol, redsox fans must suck at math.

.1 =/= .01

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby androstan » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:36 am

1 LSAT point is 0.067 GPA points.

Say it again.

1 LSAT point is 0.067 GPA points.

One more time to drive it home.

1 LSAT point is 0.067 GPA points.

And that only really means anything if you're not a splitter and if you're not applying to a "top school". Even then, take it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Which stat combo would you rather have?

Postby redsoxfan2495 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:25 pm

2011Law wrote:
redsoxfan2495 wrote:
LSATWIZ wrote:They are generally considered = (.1 to 1).
Really? A 3.75 / 172 is the same as a 3.8 / 167?


lol, redsox fans must suck at math.

.1 =/= .01
I started thinking about this thread randomly like two days later and realized I did that. Oops. I don't think .1 is a good number either though.




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