I got 147 on my december Lsat

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I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby gev8787 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:42 am

Hi everybody!

I took Lsat and got 147. I am a foreigner (Armenian) and I have Russian lawyer degree also I have disability. Is it possible that Loyola or USC will accept me for J. D.?

Thank you!

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby calilaw » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:46 am

Not with a 147.

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Postby 20121109 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:49 am

gev8787 wrote:Hi everybody!

I took Lsat and got 147. I am a foreigner (Armenian) and I have Russian lawyer degree also I have disability. Is it possible that Loyola or USC will accept me for J. D.?

Thank you!


Possible? Yes. Probable? Absolutely not.

That LSAT is far below the 25%ile. The fact that you're Armenian is negligible at best. Unfortunately, you won't get a boost for that.

Russian lawyer degree? Is that in any way equivalent to an American JD? I know nothing about international law degrees...

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby gev8787 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:56 am

Yes it is equivalent to an American JD. I can apply with my Russian degree to LLM but i want to get American J. D.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Danteshek » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:02 am

gev8787 wrote:Hi everybody!

I took Lsat and got 147. I am a foreigner (Armenian) and I have Russian lawyer degree also I have disability. Is it possible that Loyola or USC will accept me for J. D.?

Thank you!


Not a chance. You'll need about 162 for Loyola and 169 for USC. T4 schools will probably not let you in with a 147 (and if they do god help them). Your status as an Armenian will not help you. Armenians are overrepresented in law schools in Los Angeles. If you have a disability that is preventing you from getting a decent LSAT (assuming you speak English properly), you need to work a little harder to overcome it.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby calilaw » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:02 am

Retake the LSAT. You're surely capable of a higher score.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Danteshek » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:03 am

gev8787 wrote:Yes it is equivalent to an American JD. I can apply with my Russian degree to LLM but i want to get American J. D.


Not equivalent. Russia has a Civil Law system. And Russian universities are notoriously corrupt.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby glewz » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:09 am

Find out whether your Russian JD can transfer over some courses. Also call up admissions offices to see whether they evaluate you based on your Russian JD's grades. After all, for US transfer applicants, US law schools will only look at 1st year law school grades.

Edit: If admissions are based primarily on your 147 LSAT, I (and probably everyone on TLS) would advise you to retake.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby gev8787 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:13 am

I mean that Russian law degree is accepted In US for LLM. Law system is of course different

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Danteshek » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:19 am

Credits will not transfer for JD.

I would love to see what they actually covered in that Russian undergrad law course.

Might is Right Theory
Bribery Law
Money Laundering Techniques

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Danteshek » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:21 am

gev8787 wrote:I mean that Russian law degree is accepted In US for LLM. Law system is of course different


Several LLM programs allow for transfer into JD program if you get good grades. Start with those.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby gev8787 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:24 am

Danteshek wrote:
gev8787 wrote:I mean that Russian law degree is accepted In US for LLM. Law system is of course different


Several LLM programs allow for transfer into JD program if you get good grades. Start with those.


I can try that way

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Beast15 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:53 am

Danteshek wrote:I would love to see what they actually covered in that Russian undergrad law course.

Might is Right Theory
Bribery Law
Money Laundering Techniques


:shock: Stereotype? Funny, nonetheless.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Diiizzzzoooo » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:36 am

gev8787 wrote:Hi everybody!






HI DR. NICK!



Sorry, carry on.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Leira7905 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:15 am

Diiizzzzoooo wrote:
gev8787 wrote:Hi everybody!






HI DR. NICK!



Sorry, carry on.


lmfao

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby thechee » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:44 am

Beast15 wrote:
Danteshek wrote:I would love to see what they actually covered in that Russian undergrad law course.

Might is Right Theory
Bribery Law
Money Laundering Techniques


:shock: Stereotype? Funny, nonetheless.


Actually that's really not a stereotype...pretty much dead on. To get into a top Russian undergrad law (or anything else thought to be lucrative in the long run) program, most students have to take a test like the LSAT, except there is no test, and it costs $$$ to take it, and that $$$ goes directly to a faculty member/administrator who has a say in your admission. Sure, some do get in on merit, but it's far from the majority. And actually, if you pay enough, you can have your name entered into the official alumni database, so no one will ever be able to tell if you actually attended. No joke.

Source: multiple family members working in Russian academia.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby Beast15 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:01 am

thechee wrote:
Beast15 wrote:
Danteshek wrote:I would love to see what they actually covered in that Russian undergrad law course.

Might is Right Theory
Bribery Law
Money Laundering Techniques


:shock: Stereotype? Funny, nonetheless.


Actually that's really not a stereotype...pretty much dead on. To get into a top Russian undergrad law (or anything else thought to be lucrative in the long run) program, most students have to take a test like the LSAT, except there is no test, and it costs $$$ to take it, and that $$$ goes directly to a faculty member/administrator who has a say in your admission. Sure, some do get in on merit, but it's far from the majority. And actually, if you pay enough, you can have your name entered into the official alumni database, so no one will ever be able to tell if you actually attended. No joke.

Source: multiple family members working in Russian academia.


Wow. Thought corruption was only that blatant in the movies.

One of my LOR writers (a prof who chairs my business school's admissions committee) told me a similar story about business school applicants/alumi from China. According to him, it's not all that difficult to "pay" for a perfect academic record in China. He was telling me that the prevalence of corruption makes foreign credentials (Chinese in particular) a bit dubious.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby niederbomb » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:29 am

Beast15 wrote:
thechee wrote:
Beast15 wrote:
Danteshek wrote:I would love to see what they actually covered in that Russian undergrad law course.

Might is Right Theory
Bribery Law
Money Laundering Techniques


:shock: Stereotype? Funny, nonetheless.


Actually that's really not a stereotype...pretty much dead on. To get into a top Russian undergrad law (or anything else thought to be lucrative in the long run) program, most students have to take a test like the LSAT, except there is no test, and it costs $$$ to take it, and that $$$ goes directly to a faculty member/administrator who has a say in your admission. Sure, some do get in on merit, but it's far from the majority. And actually, if you pay enough, you can have your name entered into the official alumni database, so no one will ever be able to tell if you actually attended. No joke.

Source: multiple family members working in Russian academia.


Wow. Thought corruption was only that blatant in the movies.

One of my LOR writers (a prof who chairs my business school's admissions committee) told me a similar story about business school applicants/alumi from China. According to him, it's not all that difficult to "pay" for a perfect academic record in China. He was telling me that the prevalence of corruption makes foreign credentials (Chinese in particular) a bit dubious.


Funny, so true about China. I DO NOT work for this type of company. I only do visa consulting, but another company that works with us is devoted to manufacturing fake credentials and even fake acceptance letters to top U.S. universities to use at the visa interviews....The northeast where I work is notorious for this type of corruption. Sad but true, and many Chinese university grads have trouble getting jobs because employers know exactly what's going on.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby 2Serious4Numbers » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:44 am

From Russia with love, all they way to SoCal -- talk about a change of scenery

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby joebloe » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:06 pm

The US was at least as bad with respect to diploma milling less than a century ago.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby TheOcho » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:23 pm

Danteshek wrote:Credits will not transfer for JD.

I would love to see what they actually covered in that Russian undergrad law course.

Might is Right Theory
Bribery Law
Money Laundering Techniques


+1

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby gev8787 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:57 pm

In my case I do not have choice and have to stay in US.
Even with a perfect diploma for Russia I can not get a job due to disability.
What about Chapman Law school or California Western school of Law
with 147?

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby esq » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:02 pm

Thomas Cooley maybe. Buy a jacket though.

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Re: I got 147 on my december Lsat

Postby gbpackerbacker » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:06 pm

HowdyYall wrote:dont retake the LSAT













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