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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby DarkPhantom » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:29 am

How many of you thought the Dec 1996 LSAT Game #4 was pretty easy?

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This game kicked my butt pretty good, partly because the rules themselves were so damn confusing!

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 8675309 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:32 am

DarkPhantom wrote:How many of you thought the Dec 1996 LSAT Game #4 was pretty easy?

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This game kicked my butt pretty good, partly because the rules themselves were so damn confusing!


That was a pretty stupid game. But, it was in the logic bible so now it makes sense to me.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby DarkPhantom » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:33 am

Is that saying if instead of advertisements...there were politicians campaigning on various days, you would be able to ace it?

I'm trying to master that game, because it is one of the "stupid ones" that I can't seem to get around.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 8675309 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:45 am

DarkPhantom wrote:Is that saying if instead of advertisements...there were politicians campaigning on various days, you would be able to ace it?

I'm trying to master that game, because it is one of the "stupid ones" that I can't seem to get around.


There were a couple deductions to make that you have to dig for (or so it seemed to me). I'd have to see another like it to see if I actually grasped the concepts. But I think it's a difficult game because you don't know which advertisement is the double.

Adding to original post:
This was a game I struggled with and re did 2-3 times over the past couple weeks. It helped with my deductions and inference skills. But yeah, the rules are confusing.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Revolver066 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:07 am

Did not like that game. At all.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Lasker » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:51 am

That is a tricky one - I didn't pick up on what I view as the key inference until midway through the third question, which meant that the 3rd question took too long. That question is the key to the whole game in my view. this is one of this interesting games where keeping track of what you have learned from answering the questions is extremely helpful.

I'm not sure what I could have done differently to make the necessary inference sooner. While I did realize that there were probably more inferences available after looking at my mostly empty initial diagram, none came to mind so it seemed less risky to just continue to the questions. Getting a feel for those sorts of decisions is one of main elements of getting good at the LG section.

This was my thought process on question 20:

From 19, we know that J cannot be in the third place. From the rules, we know that J cannot be in the first place either. Thus, it is reasonable to look at J first. We need to establish that J cannot go in the fourth, and that it can go in the second. The answer to question 18 already tells us it is possible for J to be second. Now we need only eliminate the possibility that it could be fourth. If J is fourth, H must be third.

_ _ H _
_ _ O J

Now we have a problem. The J cannot be repeated, because that would require that H be repeated as well, which is impossible. But, if J is not repeated, it's "partner" must be. And the only possible partner is G, which also can't be repeated (because it would require another J or O). Therefor, J cannot go in the fourth spot.

This "new" information allows us to modify our original diagram:

_ _ _ _ K first or second, G second or third. K, L, H, or M could be repeated.
H J O _

With this information the rest of the questions are not difficult.

I would describe this game as moderately difficult, certainly not easy, because the inferences are far from obvious and the directions are potentially confusing.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Dotson525 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:06 pm

Has anyone tried or heard reviews for Test Sherpa Lsat? I was thinking about adding it to my materials, for extra help concerning LR. Its really inexpensive as well.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Pleasye » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:51 pm

Did PT 51 today:

LR 1: -3 :D
RC: - 5 :?
LR 2: -8 :cry:
LG: -2 :mrgreen:

82 raw, 165 scaled. This is lower than last time but I still have time and it's right around where I want to be. I don't know what happened in that second LR though...I'll figure it out when I review!

Hope studying is going well for all of you!

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 8675309 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:46 pm

LSpleaseee wrote:Did PT 51 today:

LR 1: -3 :D
RC: - 5 :?
LR 2: -8 :cry:
LG: -2 :mrgreen:

82 raw, 165 scaled. This is lower than last time but I still have time and it's right around where I want to be. I don't know what happened in that second LR though...I'll figure it out when I review!

Hope studying is going well for all of you!


Okay, someones gotta clue me in on how to master logical reasoning.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby SchopenhauerFTW » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:49 pm

LSpleaseee wrote:Did PT 51 today:

LR 1: -3 :D
RC: - 5 :?
LR 2: -8 :cry:
LG: -2 :mrgreen:

82 raw, 165 scaled. This is lower than last time but I still have time and it's right around where I want to be. I don't know what happened in that second LR though...I'll figure it out when I review!

Hope studying is going well for all of you!


Damn the 50s LR! I feel like there are more Shell Game/poser answer choices in these tests.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Pleasye » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:54 pm

8675309 wrote:Okay, someones gotta clue me in on how to master logical reasoning.

For me everything about the LSAT has been: practice practice practice. I've been looking at this stuff on and off for like, 2 years and then studied for a couple months for October and now for February. After having seen so many LSAT questions the answers start popping out at you. Also, for LR I don't necessarily look for the right answer, a lot of the time I'm looking to get rid of clearly wrong answer choices.

As you can see by my scores I'm by no means an LSAT pro but I did start with a really low diagnostic (and got a low October score) and have improved a lot and that's how I've done it.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:09 pm

missed 20 questions on PT 32 today. If this atrociousness goes on for 3 more days, i'm taking June.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Revolver066 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:13 pm

LSpleaseee wrote:
8675309 wrote:Okay, someones gotta clue me in on how to master logical reasoning.

For me everything about the LSAT has been: practice practice practice. I've been looking at this stuff on and off for like, 2 years and then studied for a couple months for October and now for February. After having seen so many LSAT questions the answers start popping out at you. Also, for LR I don't necessarily look for the right answer, a lot of the time I'm looking to get rid of clearly wrong answer choices.

As you can see by my scores I'm by no means an LSAT pro but I did start with a really low diagnostic (and got a low October score) and have improved a lot and that's how I've done it.


What she said.

Just practice, and you start to see LR has a language of it's own, and you will begin to recognize right/wrong answers fairly quickly.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Pleasye » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:21 pm

99.9luft wrote:missed 20 questions on PT 32 today. If this atrociousness goes on for 3 more days, i'm taking June.

<3 don't let one bad score discourage you.

Have you been taking more recent tests as well?

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:27 pm

LSpleaseee wrote:
99.9luft wrote:missed 20 questions on PT 32 today. If this atrociousness goes on for 3 more days, i'm taking June.

<3 don't let one bad score affect you.

Have you been taking more recent tests as well?


Thanks, love.

This is my 2nd PT in over a month of not studying diligently. No, my last 3 PTs have been the superpreps (which are 90s) but aren't they supposed to be easier than the 50s? Maybe that's why I feel bummed.

I will take a newer PT tomorrow and for the next 3 days. PT 50 tomorrow.

Good job on your PT earlier today, btw!

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Pleasye » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:34 pm

99.9luft wrote:Thanks, love.

This is my 2nd PT in over a month of not studying diligently. No, my last 3 PTs have been the superpreps (which are 90s) but aren't they supposed to be easier than the 50s? Maybe that's why I feel bummed.

I will take a newer PT tomorrow and for the next 3 days. PT 50 tomorrow.

Good job on your PT earlier today, btw!

I don't know a lot about the Superpreps but I think they supposedly have difficult games? I've never heard that they're "easier" than the 50's. I'm sure you'll do better on 50! Although, if you really don't feel ready for February, don't do it.

and thanks! :)

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Jack Smirks » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:37 pm

99.9luft wrote:This is my 2nd PT in over a month of not studying diligently. No, my last 3 PTs have been the superpreps (which are 90s) but aren't they supposed to be easier than the 50s? Maybe that's why I feel bummed.

I thought the superpreps were easier than all the 50's.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Pleasye » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:45 pm

naterj wrote:
99.9luft wrote:This is my 2nd PT in over a month of not studying diligently. No, my last 3 PTs have been the superpreps (which are 90s) but aren't they supposed to be easier than the 50s? Maybe that's why I feel bummed.

I thought the superpreps were easier than all the 50's.

So I can conclude that this February test will be easy?

NICE!

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:41 pm

LSpleaseee wrote:
naterj wrote:
99.9luft wrote:This is my 2nd PT in over a month of not studying diligently. No, my last 3 PTs have been the superpreps (which are 90s) but aren't they supposed to be easier than the 50s? Maybe that's why I feel bummed.

I thought the superpreps were easier than all the 50's.

So I can conclude that this February test will be easy?

NICE!


If only! My friend took Feb last year and said the games were hard... but given that it's not disclosed and that some ppl thought Dec's games were the hardest this year, no one knows for sure. If i were LSAC i'd make Feb a testing ground for all the crap they will introduce in the upcoming year.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby risktaker » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:43 pm

Did back to back to back LR sections today since I got killed by Dec 10 LR last week. Got -1, -2, and -5. I tried to do all three sections in 30 mins. I could have done better on the third section with more time because I made many stupid mistakes towards the end. On two of the questions, I outright read the questions wrong. I am hoping that I will kick ass on the Dec 09 test I will be taking this weekend. Since I have seen this test before, I better score a 170+.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Miracle » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:53 pm

how do you guys handle when you do poorly (-10+) on one section, and makes you go from 170 to 160. That's what happened to me tonight, and I'm so depressed.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby JenDarby » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:57 pm

Sitting at a coffee shop reviewing LR Bible makes me want a nap, or alcohol, maybe both. I may throw in the reviewing towel, take a PT and call it a day.

I'm very excited I get to take the Feb test at a location that's only 20 miles away, instead of 50 some.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:02 pm

Miracle wrote:how do you guys handle when you do poorly (-10+) on one section, and makes you go from 170 to 160. That's what happened to me tonight, and I'm so depressed.


leave the house. i went -8 today on RC, so going to the gym. then will come back and review.

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby Miracle » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:06 pm

99.9luft wrote:
Miracle wrote:how do you guys handle when you do poorly (-10+) on one section, and makes you go from 170 to 160. That's what happened to me tonight, and I'm so depressed.


leave the house. i went -8 today on RC, so going to the gym. then will come back and review.



I did -12 on LG! What's worse is that I though i did well!

Are you taking yours if you continue doing poorly?

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Re: The Slightly More Official February 2011 LSAT Thread

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:09 pm

Miracle wrote:
99.9luft wrote:
Miracle wrote:how do you guys handle when you do poorly (-10+) on one section, and makes you go from 170 to 160. That's what happened to me tonight, and I'm so depressed.


leave the house. i went -8 today on RC, so going to the gym. then will come back and review.



I did -12 on LG! What's worse is that I though i did well!

Are you taking yours if you continue doing poorly?


That sucks, man. Yeah it IS worse when you think you did better. No, i am not sitting in for a given test administration unless i am scoring in the 170s consistently. As of today it ain't happening but i will decide by Fri if i'm doing Feb or abandoning you all for the June thread




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