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Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:04 pm
by confusedlawyer
jwzp wrote:
Chris Ross wrote:RC - Dental Caries was definitely tough. I spent A LOT of time on it, but fortunately I went to it first. RC was my first section, and I always go 4th passage, 3rd, 2nd, 1st in order. So I only had 5 minutes for the last passage, but felt pretty good overall.
That's interesting. Did you have RC,LR,LG,LG,LR?

I ask because I did and Dental caries was 2nd in my section. Didn't think the passages were arranged differently in the various versions of the test.
I had the same order of sections but had tooth decay 3rd lol

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:13 pm
by bartleby
First deformed child and second deformed child.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:14 pm
by jwzp
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Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:30 pm
by FakeBlood
aliens for sure. blanded and pins? or whatever it was.. dental carries FOSHO.




the glass game pissed me off

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:14 pm
by ACBeaumont
I had RC LR LG LG LR. Doing the first set of apparently experimental games went very well and I went on break feeling great. Getting back into the room, sitting down and immediately doing another set of LG, especially a SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult set was just cruel. I would have much rather done an exp RC or exp LR. If I got ten right on the real LG I'd be surprised and I was well prepared for this test. I honestly can't believe how much more difficult those questions were than ANY of the games in Kaplan's prep book or the Princeton prep book. Just ridiculous. Need to go kick a puppy now.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:23 pm
by bartleby
This is the last time I'll say it but I struggled in LG also (guessed on 5) but Dec 10 wasn't as bad as Dinos LG section. I can't even imagine having that as my real LG on a real test day. As a PT, I finished it right on time and missed -1 from that section but w/ test day pressure and fatigue, I think it would've been a true nightmare.

This time around, I think for a lot of people it was our own mistake not looking for the easy ones first and then screwing up on rules in the third game or having trouble diagramming it because we felt pressed on time. And by "our" and "we" I mean me.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:32 pm
by 2011Law
ACBeaumont wrote:I had RC LR LG LG LR. Doing the first set of apparently experimental games went very well and I went on break feeling great. Getting back into the room, sitting down and immediately doing another set of LG, especially a SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult set was just cruel. I would have much rather done an exp RC or exp LR. If I got ten right on the real LG I'd be surprised and I was well prepared for this test. I honestly can't believe how much more difficult those questions were than ANY of the games in Kaplan's prep book or the Princeton prep book. Just ridiculous. Need to go kick a puppy now.
lol, I did way better on real LG than exp LG, not to say I did great (I guesstimate -5 on real).

For me, conference was the hardest game, the only one where I had to blind guess on a question. Stained glass was second. That there was no room to do the first game also through me off when I saw it, but was made up for by being an easy game.

For RC, the Jewett and dental caries passages were harder, but overall I felt good about RC. Also felt good about the first LR, the second LR I finished w/o guessing with about 15 seconds left, so I felt less good about that one. Can't recall which ones gave me the hardest time in LR, but OP mentioned some that rang a bell or two.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:35 pm
by ilove_toshop
The stained glass window question was a pain in the ass---as was the conference one....

The dental caries passage was just stupid---like they couldn't pick a different topic? Why would they think anyone wants to read about that?

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:54 pm
by BxBob0711
The conferences game destroyed me :/ I pretty much had to guess the whole thing. The others were fine though. The raspberry and star LR questions were the worst.

RC whatever the last passage was that wasn't the lichen, caries, or medical illustration one I just skimmed through and didn't get to look at all the answers. Part of that is because it was the last section of the test and I was a little tired (that was the last section that I wanted to see as the 5th one) and that I had the LG section before it and was pissed about the conference game. The other half, at least I was told by a few people timing the sections with their watches was that our proctor cut the section short :/

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:24 am
by ilove_toshop
The fourth RC passage was the one about comparing an author's work to older works or something...I have blocked it out of my mind haha.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:38 am
by lifeaway1985
ilove_toshop wrote:The fourth RC passage was the one about comparing an author's work to older works or something...I have blocked it out of my mind haha.
art forgery?

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:42 am
by SchopenhauerFTW
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Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:02 am
by LS-boundNYC
jwzp wrote:
Chris Ross wrote:RC - Dental Caries was definitely tough. I spent A LOT of time on it, but fortunately I went to it first. RC was my first section, and I always go 4th passage, 3rd, 2nd, 1st in order. So I only had 5 minutes for the last passage, but felt pretty good overall.
That's interesting. Did you have RC,LR,LG,LG,LR?

I ask because I did and Dental caries was 2nd in my section. Didn't think the passages were arranged differently in the various versions of the test.
jwzp - no. I actually had RC, LR, LR, LG, LR. But now that I think about it, I actually misstated the order I went in up there. Caries WAS the second passage in my test. My bad.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:54 am
by col.faith
Anyone remember how many questions overall? I finished early on the last LR, and checked my bubble sheet, I had RC 27 LR 26 LG 23 LG 23 LR 26, I know the first LG is the exp section, but if my math is right, the total is 102 :shock: I'm trying very hard not to shoot myself because I think I might have misbubbled. Anyone remember the number of questions from any sections on the test?

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:59 am
by KevinP
col.faith wrote:Anyone remember how many questions overall? I finished early on the last LR, and checked my bubble sheet, I had RC 27 LR 26 LG 23 LG 23 LR 26, I know the first LG is the exp section, but if my math is right, the total is 102 :shock: I'm trying very hard not to shoot myself because I think I might have misbubbled. Anyone remember the number of questions from any sections on the test?
There were 102 questions total.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:00 pm
by akili
There were 102 questions overall. Your math is right. You didn't misbubble.

I had the same order and the same number of questions 8)

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:04 pm
by col.faith
KevinP wrote:
There were 102 questions total.
akili wrote:There were 102 questions overall. Your math is right. You didn't misbubble.

I had the same order and the same number of questions 8)
Thank god... and you guys.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:08 pm
by ren2011
ilove_toshop wrote:The stained glass window question was a pain in the ass---as was the conference one....

The dental caries passage was just stupid---like they couldn't pick a different topic? Why would they think anyone wants to read about that?
Picking a dull or confusing-looking passage is one of the ways LSAC tries to psych people out. I remember one of the prep tests had some abstract mathematical concept for one of the RC passages, but if you didn't lose it/kept focus, the questions were quite easy. It's just a cheap trick they use to increase the "difficulty" of the passage.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:15 pm
by kkklick
ren2011 wrote:
ilove_toshop wrote:The stained glass window question was a pain in the ass---as was the conference one....

The dental caries passage was just stupid---like they couldn't pick a different topic? Why would they think anyone wants to read about that?
Picking a dull or confusing-looking passage is one of the ways LSAC tries to psych people out. I remember one of the prep tests had some abstract mathematical concept for one of the RC passages, but if you didn't lose it/kept focus, the questions were quite easy. It's just a cheap trick they use to increase the "difficulty" of the passage.
FRACTALS

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:16 pm
by ren2011
yup yup :) I couldn't remember the exact topic, but fractals is what I was thinking of.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:17 pm
by umich2011
etchings, alien communication, stars, and raspberry stand out for me. I remember at least narrowing down to 2 for stars and raspberry, but I had a ton of trouble with aliens and etchings... those are the ones that stand out to me in terms of how much time I spent on them. I haven't seen etchings mentioned on here yet though- was it not as hard as I thought or was it on experimental? ( I had experimental LR)

I remembered the two choices I had narrowed down to stars... and I was just in the middle of writing a paper when the answer just came to me... 3 days later lol. I don't remember which one I put down though :(

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:18 pm
by Curry
ren2011 wrote:yup yup :) I couldn't remember the exact topic, but fractals is what I was thinking of.
That was actually one of my favorite reading comp passages. I'm not sure why. That and carnivorous tadpoles killed a lot of people but I loved both of them. Riddled Basins still gives me nightmares... and I'm done with the test for good.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:21 pm
by ATR
kkklick wrote:FRACTALS
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I read a book on chaos theory which covered fractals and Koch curves in-depth. So when I worked that PT, I didn't miss anything on that RC passage. Don't get me started on geology passages, though...

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:43 pm
by FlanSolo
bartleby wrote:This is the last time I'll say it but I struggled in LG also (guessed on 5) but Dec 10 wasn't as bad as Dinos LG section. I can't even imagine having that as my real LG on a real test day. As a PT, I finished it right on time and missed -1 from that section but w/ test day pressure and fatigue, I think it would've been a true nightmare.

This time around, I think for a lot of people it was our own mistake not looking for the easy ones first and then screwing up on rules in the third game or having trouble diagramming it because we felt pressed on time. And by "our" and "we" I mean me.
Sorry, I'm really not buying that the Dinos LG section was much harder. Two of the games were easy, one of them was moderate, and of course the Dinos game was hard and unusual. By comparison, December's test had one that was easy, one that was relatively easy (with little diagramming space), one that was hard (stained glass), and one that was difficult and unusual (conferences).

If you add up stained glass plus conferences that's 12 questions. Dinos plus awards is also 12, and I'll submit that awards was easier than conferences. I'm not saying that December was harder, but I think it's of pretty comparable difficulty.

Re: ITT: HARDEST QUESTIONS -- Dec. LSAT 2010

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:05 pm
by ren2011
atresia wrote:
kkklick wrote:FRACTALS
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I read a book on chaos theory which covered fractals and Koch curves in-depth. So when I worked that PT, I didn't miss anything on that RC passage. Don't get me started on geology passages, though...
My point exactly. I didn't miss any on that section because it actually wasn't too complex, but a bunch of people in my class skipped the passage entirely because they saw the topic and assumed it would be difficult.